Anyone got a major problem with Billy Napier?

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11-17-2019, 07:53 PM
HailStateSZN19

I’d be all for Napier for HC. Runs a system we’d be able to recruit to really well. Sign me up for him. Or Norvell. Either of them honestly. I’m just tired of Joe. Period. I was as optimistic and patient as I could be for as long as I could be. KSU/UT did it for me and now I’m just ready to get someone new in here so we can take advantage of all the talent we will have on our team in 2021 instead of letting Joe wreck that and underachieve by 2-3 games.
11-17-2019, 08:57 PM
TheLostDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I'm 95% sure that if he comes here he will keep Hughes on staff and about 100% sure he'll bring Looney with him. I think it's highly possible that he keeps T-Buck and possibly promotes Peterson to an on the field role.

He's a HC who also coaches the QB's- so that sort of eliminates Breiner's position coach role which would probably go to Looney assuming that Rob Sale comes in as OC/OL coach meaning the Looney could be the assistany OL coach and possibly also coach TE's allowing us to move Hughes wherever we need him. His RB and DL coach are both legit and probably could recruit anywhere. His ST coach also helps with LB's which means he probably helps their DC with position coaching. If his WR coach stays in Louisiana where he is from and is also the RC we could very easily slide Peterson in at WR coach/recruiting coordinator.

Sounds like you have it figured out. Just need to make sure Cohen pays these guys and doesn't wait until season end to extend them before they get poached.
11-17-2019, 10:45 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by TheLostDawg

Sounds like you have it figured out. Just need to make sure Cohen pays these guys and doesn't wait until season end to extend them before they get poached.

If there is anything Cohen did right it was offering Dan an extension after the Texas A&M game in 2017. Once Dan turned it down, Cohen basically knew to start looking and as a result our coaching search was short. So I think Cohen would do that in the right situation. Joe hasn't given Cohen a reason to offer an extension during the season so far obviously.
11-18-2019, 09:03 AM
TheLostDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

If there is anything Cohen did right it was offering Dan an extension after the Texas A&M game in 2017. Once Dan turned it down, Cohen basically knew to start looking and as a result our coaching search was short. So I think Cohen would do that in the right situation. Joe hasn't given Cohen a reason to offer an extension during the season so far obviously.

Yeah that's why I'm weary if the price of our but out. I understand extending a contract for many reasons if you're not ready to fire but if you go that route, you make sure you can get out the next year with easy. Look how fast we got away from Croom. I just can't see the guy out actually costing us 9 million. We'll likely see soon enough.
11-18-2019, 09:11 AM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by TheLostDawg

Yeah that's why I'm weary if the price of our but out. I understand extending a contract for many reasons if you're not ready to fire but if you go that route, you make sure you can get out the next year with easy. Look how fast we got away from Croom. I just can't see the guy out actually costing us 9 million. We'll likely see soon enough.

I would hope Cohen didn't just believe what Moorhead was selling. I personally was giving Moorhead the benefit of the doubt but I don't think I would have just gave him a crapload of money after last year's disappointing season. He was at the floor of what I expected last year and he has to win 2 games to get to the floor of my expectations this year. Realistically, our floor with this schedule should have been 7 games but winning on the road is never easy. A good coach would have won KSU, UT, and maybe A&M.
11-18-2019, 09:26 AM
Dawgfan77

You want to throw some heat on this... ULL is an Addias school. Howland was a three stripe life guy. Don?t think this wouldn?t play into it. Also can we shut up about the 9 mm. That number is based on the total contact. We are not in the hook for 3 year contract.
11-18-2019, 11:13 AM
BhamDawg205

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Originally Posted by Lance Harbor

As he was the bubble screen king. Maybe he's learned a lot since then, but State could do better.

He'll I'd take a screen right now... We've probably thrown 5 bubble screens all year.
11-18-2019, 02:59 PM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by Dawgfan77

You want to throw some heat on this... ULL is an Addias school. Howland was a three stripe life guy. Don?t think this wouldn?t play into it. Also can we shut up about the 9 mm. That number is based on the total contact. We are not in the hook for 3 year contract.

Correct, it is at worst 3MM per year for the next 3 years. If you do that then the coach has to sit at home and watch his career slowly drift away. You either negotiate it down, spread it over more years, or at least be offset by whatever they are making at the next school. Even if he takes an OC job, MSU saves at least another $250K at a minimum. It will be interesting to see what comes of the Ark lawsuit vs Bert. The Patriots are paying him below NFL minimum wage for an on the field coach so it could be that maybe the settlement is that you take the $3MM - market value of the position which would be $500k- 1 MM for an OC in a P5 conference.
11-18-2019, 07:58 PM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

Worse take ever. Hughes is a f'n liability as a coach. Sure, dude can recruit. But as an actual coach he blows bovines. An off the field recruiting position is perfect for him. Getsy was a helluva coach. You don't get hired to coach Aaron Rodgers if you aren't good. That's one of the reasons I want Norvell. He's had 6 assistants hired away to be head coaches. Dude is great at spotting coaching talent and improving it.

You really have no clue about Tony Hughes. He will have a job here no matter who our coach is unless we hire a complete idiot. He is the best recruiter Mississippi has ever seen and he is a very good defensive backs coach (yes I know he is currently coaching tight ends).
11-18-2019, 08:03 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Jarius

You really have no clue about Tony Hughes. He will have a job here no matter who our coach is unless we hire a complete idiot. He is the best recruiter Mississippi has ever seen and he is a very good defensive backs coach (yes I know he is currently coaching tight ends).

Yeah, I just ignored him. Reporters asked Mullen if he had any advice for Moorhead when Moorhead took the job, Mullen said, "hire Tony Hughes".
11-18-2019, 08:04 PM
Jarius

Billy Napier would be my #1 realistic choice, followed by Norvell. I think those 2 would do exceptionally well at State.
11-18-2019, 08:06 PM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Yeah, I just ignored him. Reporters asked Mullen if he had any advice for Moorhead when Moorhead took the job, Mullen said, "hire Tony Hughes".

I have known Tony since I was in diapers. He is an outstanding man and coach. You get him in a room with momma and it’s lights out, all other things being equal.
11-19-2019, 07:41 AM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Dawgfan77

You want to throw some heat on this... ULL is an Addias school. Howland was a three stripe life guy. Don?t think this wouldn?t play into it. Also can we shut up about the 9 mm. That number is based on the total contact. We are not in the hook for 3 year contract.

That one was not handled from within the athletic department. The only part of hiring Howland that the athletic department played in the process was to arrange the presser and stand there and smile.
11-19-2019, 08:10 AM
Dawgfan77

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

That one was not handled from within the athletic department. The only part of hiring Howland that the athletic department played in the process was to arrange the presser and stand there and smile.

I aware. Addis?s helped put the deal together
11-19-2019, 08:13 AM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Dawgfan77

I aware. Addis?s helped put the deal together

yep
11-19-2019, 08:57 AM
TrapGame

Bo Bounds seems to think we are going Napier first. His choice would be Lashley at SMU but thinks we are going G5 head coach this time around. Said if he had to guess the next HC for us would be Billy Napier.

Also, he thinks om beats the shit outta of us in the EB.
11-19-2019, 09:01 AM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Bo Bounds seems to think we are going Napier first. His choice would be Lashley at SMU but thinks we are going G5 head coach this time around. Said if he had to guess the next HC for us would be Billy Napier.

Also, he thinks om beats the shit outta of us in the EB.

If OM beating us gets us a new coach, then I'm all for it. Worked in 2008 and will work again.

Bo advocating for Lashley is ridiculous. He's not qualified
11-19-2019, 09:18 AM
Jarius

I will never pull for us to lose the Egg Bowl.
11-19-2019, 09:19 AM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Jarius

I will never pull for us to lose the Egg Bowl.

I damn sure will if it's better for the program
11-19-2019, 09:24 AM
Jarius

If we have someone hiring or firing a coach based on one game then we have leadership problems that involve a lack of critical thinking skills. Losing to them is not good. He should be fired regardless of the outcome of that game.

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