I had it confirmed for me....

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Originally Posted by Coach34

What is almost standard with college coaching contracts is that should we fire him and then he gets hired by someone else- his new salary is subtracted from the buyout total each year

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And Rutgers is possibly willing to spend 4.5 million. This could work out very well for us if that’s the case.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

What is almost standard with college coaching contracts is that should we fire him and then he gets hired by someone else- his new salary is subtracted from the buyout total each year

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Exactly. No one pays a full buyout. In no world would firing JoMo cost MSU $9.5. And that number, whatever it is will be paid out over several years.

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

That is a really good point. Possibly might only involve recruiting though or only be triggered if there is some finding of head coaching responsibility.

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To me, the HC is responsible regardless if he was involved or not. At 3-4 mil per year, the buck stops with you as CEO. That is why HC get these million dollar bonuses for winning conf. title, playoffs, bowl game, etc. They get rewarded for team performance therefore, they get hit on lack of performance or probation issues. Can't have all the rewards and no accountability.

Yeah we aren?t writing the guy a 9 million dollar check to leave. Something reasonable would be agreed to if both parties are wanting to part ways. But if push came to shove, don?t forget we are on probation under his watch. Lawyer up and fire his ass for cause. Nobody wants to go down that road, but I hope we would if he tried to bleed us dry.

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

Exactly. No one pays a full buyout. In no world would firing JoMo cost MSU $9.5. And that number, whatever it is will be paid out over several years.

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We just don't need to go and make a Bobby Bonilla type deal and end up paying him for 25 years.

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

I suspect if the right people want him gone he will be gone. 9 million is not what it use to be and state would not have to pay it all at one time.

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Yep, that's probably one year's salary for Nick Saban. And we know Jimbo is making 7.5 mil per year.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Yep, that's probably one year's salary for Nick Saban. And we know Jimbo is making 7.5 mil per year.

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Nick's yearly is $8.86 MIL, Dabo's is $9.315 MIL Let that sink in, their yearly salary is almost as his entire contract buyout.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

over the last few days. The buyout is over $9 million. Joe WILL be here next year. Rumors to the contrary are just that, rumors. He ain't leaving and we ain't getting rid of him. Our financial position is better than was, but not enough better to do THAT. This source has never been wrong, ever. So, given that fact, why don't we do a most un MSU thing and support the coach until he isn't the coach. Our decision makers are not stupid. They also don't wish for pie in the sky stuff. That privilege is reserved for message boards.

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They are damn stupid if the lowest paid coach in the league has a 9 million dollar buy out.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

And Rutgers is possibly willing to spend 4.5 million. This could work out very well for us if that’s the case.

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We’re not going to get lucky enough for Rutgers to save us. They’re zeroed in on Schiano and according to their guys on 24/7, it’s all but a done deal pretty much. And I’m not 100% convinced Joe wants to get out of here as much as some make it sound. He’s a stubborn guy. Just seems he’s determined to make his scheme and what he does work here, which obviously hasn’t so far. I’m still pulling for him to figure it out because he’s our current HC. But there’s not a lot to look at for hope of that happening. I’ve only posted on here once previously and just recently became a member but I’ve read this board for over a year now. Just thought I’d throw my .02 cents in.

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

Exactly. No one pays a full buyout. In no world would firing JoMo cost MSU $9.5. And that number, whatever it is will be paid out over several years.

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This! It's really not that hard to understand.

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Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19

We’re not going to get lucky enough for Rutgers to save us. They’re zeroed in on Schiano and according to their guys on 24/7, it’s all but a done deal pretty much. And I’m not 100% convinced Joe wants to get out of here as much as some make it sound. He’s a stubborn guy. Just seems he’s determined to make his scheme and what he does work here, which obviously hasn’t so far. I’m still pulling for him to figure it out because he’s our current HC. But there’s not a lot to look at for hope of that happening. I’ve only posted on here once previously and just recently became a member but I’ve read this board for over a year now. Just thought I’d throw my .02 cents in.

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If it was Sciano they could and should have hired him by now.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

First off I didn?t say he was or was not being hired away, I was explaining the differing buyouts. You had no reason to chime in on something that was not even stated, but that is what douches do...no reading comprehension but I got to deliver a false message to the masses.

No you haven?t explained anything, you just offer your opinions in the most douche delusional way possible. You have no sources or inside info, just spouting off from your rear.

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Ah! Now you have resorted to name calling. How grown.

You stated: If he is hired away the buyout is a little below $2 MIL.

My response was he is not.

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Have you read this thread? We don't have many rational fans.

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Or the board. Every day.... Over and over... To the point of rumors:

- 99jc-- For a fact the wheels are in motion.. Moorhead called into the office .. It's happening.
- Moorhead to Rutgers... Fact...

etc...

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Originally Posted by DogsofAnarchy

They are damn stupid if the lowest paid coach in the league has a 9 million dollar buy out.

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A $9 mil buyout is reasonable. Chad Morris and Matt Luke have similar.

Do you want us to not be competitive with salary? Do you want us to act like a conference USA team with our next hire?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

If it was Sciano they could and should have hired him by now.

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Exactly. It's mighty strange Schiano is sitting around unemployed at the moment and Rutgers still has no head coach. If Schiano was the guy it could already been over.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

If it was Sciano they could and should have hired him by now.

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Sounds like the only reason they haven’t yet is because their AD really didn’t want to bring him back and has been screwing around looking at some other candidates but the big donors and influential people there are pretty much demanding it be Schiano. Idk much about it but that’s just the gist of what I scanned over on their message boards. They’re all wondering what the hell their AD is waiting on since Schiano isn’t doing anything now and could have hired him weeks ago or at least by now. Now if they screw around and wait too long and that BC job opens up, Schiano could end up taking that job and that’d leave the Rutgers job still open and then it’d get really interesting as to just where on their list Joe would be. That’s a lot of ifs and buts though. From the sound of it, I’d be surprised if wound up not being Schiano at Rutgers.

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Ah! Now you have resorted to name calling. How grown.

You stated: If he is hired away the buyout is a little below $2 MIL.

My response was he is not.

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Figured I would put it to you so you could understand with your 12 year old menatlity...or are you really 13?

There was nothing in that post stating he would or would not be hired away. I only conveyed what that buyout would be IF he would be hired away to another school. That's it. No putting forward an idea that he would be, just what would happen if he was. Again, reading comprehension failure by you so you could give a douche response to something that was not even posted about. You had no reason to respond by whether he would or would not be hired away, there was nothing in the post speculating on that.

Late to the party but idk who "confirmed" he will be here, inside the seal word has been that he's gone before the season even took a turn

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

Late to the party but idk who "confirmed" he will be here, inside the seal word has been that he's gone before the season even took a turn

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That’s what I’ve heard. And the buyout is definitely not 9 mil...lmao!! Terrible source

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Originally Posted by deadheaddawg

A $9 mil buyout is reasonable. Chad Morris and Matt Luke have similar.

Do you want us to not be competitive with salary? Do you want us to act like a conference USA team with our next hire?

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Anyone guaranteeing large amounts of money to a coordinator in their first HC job is playing with fire. I get the proven HC argument. If you want one, you have to pay up as there just aren?t that many. Seems like there would be enough of a population of coordinators to where you don?t have to guarantee the money. Morris might have been looked at by other programs when Arkansas signed him but very doubtful Luke and Moorhead were being wined and dined by competing programs.