How many schools would there be in this "new class" and how would that help the current situation?Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
Also, remember that whatever "new class" you create effects ALL sports. Not just football.
Also, why would creating a new class be better than cutting scholarship, which would build in more parity?
Why pay college players to play ball and get an education. The NFL can pick up the ticket for a minor league for football and kids that belong in college classrooms can play college football. That solves the different classification deal and paying players all in one move.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
The truth is Alabama is historically good because they cheat. The Albert means saga proved that there are sidewalk fans willing to put massive money to make Alabama successful. Other schools outside of UCLA in the 60?s in basketball, Louisville and Kentucky in basketball and Oklahoma of the 70?s simply don?t have fans that dedicated and ruthless.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
When a school does decide to cheat at that level like SMU in the 70?s the powers backdoor whisper to the NCAA
I am not advocating MSU cheat, to cheat at this level you need a law school and journalism school that pumps out legal fixers and appologists
It is what it is, but no need for a bama fan to try and tell everyone how to fix the system
Of course they do, but I've kind of just accepted that this is what goes on at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparrows2
The question now is: how do we create a more parity & more interest within this system?
Bob Tyler learned how to cheat from Bear Bryant and Johnny Vaught. Two of the biggest cheaters out there- and of course we were the ones that got burned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparrows2
Ethical officials would be a good start. A big part of the problem is it's very obvious that certain "haves" are protected.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I suspect they could expand the playoffs to 16 teams and have mixed officiating crews in the playoffs. That way there would be less incentive to "protect" an Alabama because they could still get into the playoffs with a loss or two- which would mean an upset loss to Mississippi State wouldn't necessarily kill their National Title hopes. Which would create more interest because more people in theory would "have a chance".
All of the above posts are accurate, for the most part... We just cull out the "haves"... Say the top 25 teams based on value, success, attendance, etc...
The remaining programs could set up their own network, officiating system, scholarship limitations, etc...
The new (25 team) league could take a percentage of their increase in revenue and kick it down to help subsidize the other programs.
The Kang and Dye got a LOT of pointers from Tha Bahr, too... A bunch of other coaches, too...Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
They all cheat... Some are just better and/or more committed...
That's exactly what's coming, in may take 15 years, that minus kicking the money down to help the lower classifications the NCAA will probably not be a part of this set up. 20 years or so ago there was almost a split but the big 10 wouldn't move, now they won't be able to stop it any team that will go will leave for the revenue windfall.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
I just can't see this happening because of how it would effect other sports.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
It sounds great in football, but it would be a disaster for other sports.
I could see power 5 separating but that would still leave us in the same spot we currently are in terms of a lack of competitive balance.
I just can't see the point of separating only 25 schools when it's much easier for everyone to just lower the scholarships.
No it's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
It's a pipedream that lacks an understanding of the unintended consequences.
Football would be in a separate "conference." Something similar happens on a smaller level with non-revenue sports. Florida's women's lacrosse team is in the AAC in that sport only. They were previously in the Big East. Notre Dame football is independent, but the rest of their sports are in the ACC. So similar stuff happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
If a break happens in football, all Power 5 teams won't go. Probably 25 like Tusk said. The ones with the most potential revenue and name brand. I don't think that would be us. I just don't think our fans care quite that much about football. We are fair weather football fans but have always wanted to be a baseball school.
You have no idea how close it was to happening before, the CFA thing almost happened it was very very close. Now that the networks are so much more in control of things its a real possibility, the possible revenue is astronomical compared to the monies that are being thrown around today.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
But that's not going to happen. The power 5 schools left out of that football conference would never agree to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg2003
I don't think it's ever been close to happeningQuote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
It happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Please explainQuote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Why would the schools that are left have to agree to the other schools leaving?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Disagree with this point entirely. I wanted to claw my eyes out every time it was 3rd and 3 and Mullen called for a QB power again thatvworks against usm but gets stuffed by bama every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless
[QUOTE=Coursesuper;1149863]We'd get some guys that'd normally find a place at bama or Clemson or uga or LSU, and G5 guys would get some guys that normally would find a place at MSU or OM or Arkansas or Kentucky, FCS would get some guys that'd normally end up at usm or Memphis or Troy st.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg