the first game of this year either. We can slice it any way we want too but NF is one of the best QB's in this programs history. How many other MSU QB's, or MSU players for that matter, have a career SEC record for something, anything?
the first game of this year either. We can slice it any way we want too but NF is one of the best QB's in this programs history. How many other MSU QB's, or MSU players for that matter, have a career SEC record for something, anything?
I'll remember Nick as a player who when he stepped between those lines he was gonna give you everything he had. He definitely had his deficiencies in his decision making and accuracy, but I never doubted that the kid wasn't giving everything he had for us. His toughness and game breaking speed is what I'll remember the most.
7 we are talking College. Tebow and Johnny Football are maybe the two best colleges QBs ever. But they ain't shit in the NFL . You put Nick on OSU and the other dude on MSU and who does better?? MSU might win but it will because of the defense. Who was in top 2 total offens their Sophomore year when he actually had SEC WRs?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We'll just disagree. I love nick and think he gets way too much criticism, but nick ain't Haskins. Haskins is one hell of a qb. Watch him and you'll see the accuracy and arm strength.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Is there any real difference between Fitz and Relf...other than expectations being lower for Relf?
IMO, don't think he has one. Just another QB who was a good runner and couldn't pass. Bout like John Bond. I would rate Bond ahead of him for managing to beat an undefeated #1 ranked BAMA team in 1980. Of course, Fitz probably would have been awesome running the wishbone at one of the service academies.
Given his 'not so hot' passing ability, will Fitz still be known as a dual-threat quarterback?
You think he was capable of handling the academic requirements at a service academy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pit Bull
Probably not....but I am not aware of his academic progress at MSU so I really don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketDawg
Most option QBs are small. Scott Frost was an exception, and he was fun to watch. I really wish someone would bust the old Nebraska offense out the closet.Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketDawg
He graduated in Finance and was in a Masters program this year. I think he could have handled the academic requirements. He seems a little wild for what they expect cadets to act like though. No judgement but they are very regimented and that doesn't seem like Nick.Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketDawg
I suppose those reasons are why I was wondering, and his apparent slow decision making (might've been ball hogging too) at times. Maybe he just didn't prepare enough. Could've been burned out a little too, not to mention the terrible injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
I'm pretty sure he wasn't talking about Nick's academics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pit Bull
Nick would have been an absolute beast in a service academy offense. They just don't find QB's with his skill set with their talent pool unless they are related to Norman SchwartzkoffQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Service academies would have FIXED Nick's wildness or he wouldn't cut it there. They got ways to do it that won't get published anywhere. The only reason the Naval Academy put up with John McCain's antics was because his father and grandfather were bigshot Admirals.
Nick's legacy will not be finalized for a few years and the anger blows over for his shortcomings this season. (Not his fault his Coach left him at the Altar)
It should show he was one of the toughest SOB's to ever wear the uniform. A guy that put his body on the line week in and week out for this university. A player that followed a legend and became one in his own right. A guy that was carted off the field his Junior year only to return and fight his guts out his senior year for a new coach. Nick will be beloved when we look back, he had limitations, but he was damn fun to watch and gave it everything he had. Big wins, toughness and a human highlight reel. He will be missed.
Haskins is also the first QB taken by most NFL draft guys and Nick will be lucky to get a FA deal unless he goes as a Hell on Wheels TE.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Similar to Relf, he definitely had deficiencies in the pass game but you never doubted his heart and toughness. Also like Relf, he ran all over and through UM in the Egg Bowl. Definitely a great Bulldog and will be remembered fondly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scared_Hitless
Fitz is much better. More dynamic runner, and while Fitz probably isn't more accurate than Relf at his best, Fitz can make more throws.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
Go look at the 9-4 season for Relf and Last season for Fitz. The stats are virtually identical. Nick was a better athlete like you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by thf24