What's so special about Bryant?

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11-19-2018, 12:58 AM
BhamDawg205

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Originally Posted by Coach007

There is no intense debate. The decision is Jomo's to make.

KB had a great Trip to Ms St and said he that of all the coaches JoMo has impressed him the most.

We are in the top 2 of his, so get ready.

So are we not going back and forth. Sounds like a debate to me. KB will make the decision, JoMo is recruiting him.
11-19-2018, 01:04 AM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by BhamDawg205

That's what I'm saying Jack. KT has a year in this offense already. I feel JoMo stunted his growth, by not letting him or Mayden get real game experience. Next year Key or May starts and gets that in the fire experience. KB comes here and has performance like Fitz we in trouble, another wasted year. JoMo has shown no matter how bad the starter is, the backup will stay on the sideline. With the hype around KB it may play out like that again. That philosophy Will set us back.

Uh... No. Williams was the starter and Hill played. Williams was the SR 1100 yard back, and he played the Back up... Hill.

Again..

-KB is completing 20% or more of his passes than KT
-KB is coming from an RPO offense.
-KB was sacked more than Fitz yet still completed 66% of his passes.
11-19-2018, 01:15 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by msstate7

So if he brings in Fine, you'll agree with that too?

I've said all along that I'm fine with whoever; but I think if we Bryant, I think our fanbase is gonna be severely disappointed expecting him to be a difference maker. He's a solid option for a team that just needs someone to manage an offense. We need a playmaker.

I think that's what Bryant will do. We really don't need someone that can do it all with Hill, Guidry, and etc. coming back. We just need someone to get them the ball.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Why would we not want a QB Jo wants? He?s the one trying to fix this offense.

A coach trying to fix his offense is nice for a change. I think we've only gotten a glimpse at the potential of this offense because of our ineffectiveness throwing the ball or at least the limited ability to pass the ball.

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Originally Posted by BhamDawg205

That's what I'm saying Jack. KT has a year in this offense already. I feel JoMo stunted his growth, by not letting him or Mayden get real game experience. Next year Key or May starts and gets that in the fire experience. KB comes here and has performance like Fitz we in trouble, another wasted year. JoMo has shown no matter how bad the starter is, the backup will stay on the sideline. With the hype around KB it may play out like that again. That philosophy Will set us back.

I think KT could have used a RS season. I can blame anyone for that- he would have had his redshirt burned anyway with Fitz getting hurt late last year. But if we redshirt him next year he would still have two years left and I think he would really benefit from it. At the same time I still feel OK with him as our QB next year based on what I have seen from him this year.
11-19-2018, 04:05 AM
BhamDawg205

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Uh... No. Williams was the starter and Hill played. Williams was the SR 1100 yard back, and he played the Back up... Hill.

Again..

-KB is completing 20% or more of his passes than KT
-KB is coming from an RPO offense.
-KB was sacked more than Fitz yet still completed 66% of his passes.

Hill was labeled as this year's starter, right? And 90%+ are using RB by committee. JoMo judgement still, Aries was the complete back of the 2. Hill will be special, but has room to improve pass blocking. KB probably got way more real game experience before he was labeled starter. Why wasn't JoMo preparing KT or May when he had chances? We saw times were Fitz seemed hurt, LSU, JoMo trotted Fitz right back out there. And no where have I said or many argued Fitz is better than KB
11-19-2018, 10:55 AM
shannondawg

The only thing I don't see is seeing pro and conn about offering a player on this board.
11-19-2018, 11:36 AM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Dak rating 151.72
KB rating 131.73

Dak yds/att 8.7
KB 7.0

Dak pass td 27
KB pass td 13

Dak rushing per att 4.7
KB 3.5

Dak in sec
KB in acc

Please don't mention these 2 together

What concerns me is 16 tds/10 ints for his career. Really? At Clemson with their talent against the ACC? Fitz had better stats as a RS Soph for 1 season than KB has for his career ... outside of completion %.

I just don't see KB being a savior of any kind for this offense.
11-19-2018, 11:46 AM
Coach007

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KB probably got way more real game experience before he was labeled starter. Why wasn't JoMo preparing KT or May when he had chances?

Why talk about it without looking it up? Why the axe to grind?

The TRUTH is that KT has gotten WAY more time. KB attempted 9 passes the year before he was the starter. The year before that... 9 passes too. So for 2 years prior to him becoming a starter, he attempted 18 pass.

KT has been at MS ST for 2 years... In year 1, he threw it 66 times... Year 2... 39 times. Both years... under 48% completion.

So I ask again... Why are you on here downing the coach over something that is a TOTAL LIE!???
11-19-2018, 02:35 PM
BhamDawg205

You got me... I lied. I stated as fact using the word "probably". Fact is KT's significant playing time has happened due to injury to the starter and suspension of the starter. I do have an issue with a coach not preparing his backups when score or starter performance allows. We saw last year one dirty play and your backup becomes starter. Did KT win his starts or not?Are you ok with the lack of reps? KB has had the stability of being in the same offensive philosophy his entire career at Clemson. End of the day I'll be cheering the Dawgs on.
11-19-2018, 06:45 PM
I seen it dawg

Kelly Bryant immediately quit on his program in the middle of the season when the backup, who is better, moved into the starting role. Why in the ever living hell would we even consider this guy to join our program? It's beyond stupid.
11-19-2018, 07:25 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Kelly Bryant immediately quit on his program in the middle of the season when the backup, who is better, moved into the starting role. Why in the ever living hell would we even consider this guy to join our program? It's beyond stupid.

He didn't quit he chose to extend his career by a year by RS instead of ending his college career holding a clipboard. Not that hard to figure out honestly.
11-19-2018, 07:31 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

He didn't quit he chose to extend his career by a year by RS instead of ending his college career holding a clipboard. Not that hard to figure out honestly.

Couldn't have stayed on as a RS? Then if Lawrence got hurt be the starter.
11-19-2018, 07:34 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Couldn't have stayed on as a RS? Then if Lawrence got hurt be the starter.

Why would he risk that? If he did that there is a very good chance he would never start again.
11-19-2018, 07:34 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Couldn't have stayed on as a RS? Then if Lawrence got hurt be the starter.

To me that's more a distraction than leaving. Hey I'm leaving but I'm going to dress out every game just in case.
11-19-2018, 07:35 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Why would he risk that? If he did that there is a very good chance he would never start again.

If Lawrence doesn't get hurt, he still has his year of eligibility. Pretty sure he's never RS'd
11-19-2018, 07:39 PM
deadheaddawg

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Kelly Bryant immediately quit on his program in the middle of the season when the backup, who is better, moved into the starting role. Why in the ever living hell would we even consider this guy to join our program? It's beyond stupid.

lol
11-19-2018, 07:58 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Kelly Bryant immediately quit on his program in the middle of the season when the backup, who is better, moved into the starting role. Why in the ever living hell would we even consider this guy to join our program? It's beyond stupid.

He didn't quit due to being beat out. He quit because he didn't want to split time after waiting for his time and taking them to the NCAA championship.

The question is why the hell would not want a 66% passer who is from a rpo system and took his team to an NCAA championship while the OL was trying to get you killed by allowing 27 sacks.
11-19-2018, 08:08 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by deadheaddawg

lol

Double LOL!! Is this guy a moderator on this board?? Geez, I hope not.
11-19-2018, 08:11 PM
Todd4State

One thing that I do like about Bryant is he has some SEC experience- Alabama, Auburn, Texas A&M, and South Carolina and I may have left someone out. At any rate- he has performed against those teams. And most of those games were road games for Clemson. That has to make the transition to MSU and the SEC a little bit easier.
11-19-2018, 08:12 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If Lawrence doesn't get hurt, he still has his year of eligibility. Pretty sure he's never RS'd

But then do you really think he would beat out Lawrence next year after already losing to him once? That's why your thought doesn't make any sense.
11-19-2018, 08:15 PM
TUSK

KB quit his team because Dabo realized early on that Lawrence was his only hope to win the NC... Sure, KB prolly coulda run the ACC table and gotten them in the CFP, but he wasn't going to give them the a decent chance of success... TL will.

While KB is a definitive upgrade over Fitz, I'm not sure y'all couldn't do better, but I don't know much about yall's current QB situation....

On the issue of "quitting", I can see both sides of that, but I'd like to see more peeps handle it like JH did as opposed to the current trend... I'm not sure I'd want a guy coming in under his own terms then holding the coach hostage and possibly bailing on me, too...

Bottom line, though: If Joe thinks the cat can help him win, he'll bring him in... and that's his job.

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