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10-24-2018, 07:36 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

A qb would solve all kinds of problems going on now.

One man.

So you think it's all on Fitz? Coaching, WRs, Oline are no part of it?
10-24-2018, 07:39 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

A qb would solve all kinds of problems going on now.

One man.

Usually does in football. I'll give Dan credit here. He is elite with working with QBs and getting the best out of them. Moorhead so far is 0 for 1.
10-24-2018, 07:47 PM
Gutter Cobreh

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Look at the previous 10 years prior to him and get back to me.....

I'll point out increased SEC revenues and the increase in the number of bowls. See below to see how relatively easy it is to get into a bowl these days. You can't compare the Kang's reign versus Mullen's because they coached in different eras.

"To appreciate the rise to 40 bowl games, it's helpful to see the historic trend. In 1955 there were just six bowl games. Over the years, that number has steadily increased: to 11 games by 1975, 18 by 1995, 35 by the end of the Bowl Championship (BCS) era in 2013, and 40 by 2015. That's an increase in bowl games of about 567% over 60 years."

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

That shithead was going to go to Tennessee before Florida called. Let that sink in. He?d of rather coached the Shitshow in Knoxville then coach his ?greatest team? he ever had here. **** him.

I give Mullen his props and say that he is a serviceable coach. He isn't elite. Elite coaches don't leave schools where the cupboard is stocked (as some here think of our team's talent) to take over any perceived program they think is better. They don't want to acknowledge he was headed to UT before UF called.
10-24-2018, 08:15 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

Didn't realize going to some bowl game was such a big deal, hell, there's half a hundred to go to. Don't give me that crap about being number one either. Do other schools talk about that like it's some big accomplishment. Even that season ended in failure. Mullen raised the floor, but only one a couple of big games and got his ass handed to him by ole miss when it mattered. I for one, am glad he's gone.

This is right. Mullen raised our expectations. That?s all. It?s not like he?s the next Saban. There are many coaches out there that can win as much or more than Mullen did at State. Unfortunately, we didn?t hire one of them.
10-24-2018, 08:21 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

This is right. Mullen raised our expectations. That?s all. It?s not like he?s the next Saban. There are many coaches out there that can win as much or more than Mullen did at State. Unfortunately, we didn?t hire one of them.

How many in our history won as much as Mullen? 69-46 (.600)
10-24-2018, 08:24 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by msstate7

How many in our history won as much as Mullen? 69-46 (.600)

How many had ESPN money and exposure like we have now?
10-24-2018, 08:37 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

How many had ESPN money and exposure like we have now?

I'm confused. Did all the sec teams not have the same money and exposure bc Mullen was better than quite a few that we weren't when he arrived
10-24-2018, 08:44 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I'm confused. Did all the sec teams not have the same money and exposure bc Mullen was better than quite a few that we weren't when he arrived

If you think 1985 MSU is equal to 2018 MSU I can't help you.
10-24-2018, 08:46 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

If you think 1985 MSU is equal to 2018 MSU I can't help you.

If the money and exposure raised us, why didn't it raise the other 13 teams as much as us?
10-24-2018, 08:50 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh

I'll point out increased SEC revenues and the increase in the number of bowls. See below to see how relatively easy it is to get into a bowl these days. You can't compare the Kang's reign versus Mullen's because they coached in different eras.

"To appreciate the rise to 40 bowl games, it's helpful to see the historic trend. In 1955 there were just six bowl games. Over the years, that number has steadily increased: to 11 games by 1975, 18 by 1995, 35 by the end of the Bowl Championship (BCS) era in 2013, and 40 by 2015. That's an increase in bowl games of about 567% over 60 years."

I give Mullen his props and say that he is a serviceable coach. He isn't elite. Elite coaches don't leave schools where the cupboard is stocked (as some here think of our team's talent) to take over any perceived program they think is better. They don't want to acknowledge he was headed to UT before UF called.

Well you are belittling what he did and yeah I can compare em. And Jackie only played 7 league games too. So there's that. You don't have to like dan, he was a dickhead, but what he did with our program was successful. Hard to argue w that. Even though you want to say we regressed from year to year. Hell, you called going 6-7 to 9 wins regression so ......
10-24-2018, 08:51 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If the money and exposure raised us, why didn't it raise the other 13 teams as much as us?

You act like Mullen feasted off of an easy SEC to average 7 wins a season. He didn't. He feasted off of OOC games. That's where money and exposure raised us the most. All Mullen had to do was go 2-6 in the SEC to make a bowl.
10-24-2018, 08:52 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

If you think 1985 MSU is equal to 2018 MSU I can't help you.

I think that msstate point is EVERYONE benefited. While our exposure and money went up, so did everyone else's. Which btw, is true.
10-24-2018, 08:52 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

How many in our history won as much as Mullen? 69-46 (.600)

Our history sucks. Your expectations are low. I want better. This ain’t it. But Mullen had reach his ceiling. A better recruiter that can coach can win more than Mullen. High school coaches in Mississippi hated Mullen. A bunch of them did. I talked to one that played at State. He personally told me that he would never allow one of his players to go to state as long as Mullen was there.
10-24-2018, 08:54 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

You act like Mullen feasted off of an easy SEC to average 7 wins a season. He didn't. He feasted off of OOC games. That's where money and exposure raised us the most. All Mullen had to do was go 2-6 in the SEC to make a bowl.

Mullen had a losing record in the sec 4 of his 9 years. 2-6 was his worst sec year, and he only did it once. He was .500 or better in 5 of his 9 years.
10-24-2018, 08:55 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I think that msstate point is EVERYONE benefited. While our exposure and money went up, so did everyone else's. Which btw, is true.

Did 7 make a good point today? Do I need to mark it down on my calendar ********

Just messing with you 7.
10-24-2018, 08:56 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

You act like Mullen feasted off of an easy SEC to average 7 wins a season. He didn't. He feasted off of OOC games. That's where money and exposure raised us the most. All Mullen had to do was go 2-6 in the SEC to make a bowl.

But we only won 2 league games once in his tenure. At least 3 every other year. So that isn't what for us in bowls for the majority of the time.
10-24-2018, 08:56 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Our history sucks. Your expectations are low. I want better. This ain’t it. But Mullen had reach his ceiling. A better recruiter that can coach can win more than Mullen. High school coaches in Mississippi hated Mullen. A bunch of them did. I talked to one that played at State. He personally told me that he would never allow one of his players to go to state as long as Mullen was there.

So you expect us to be better than we've ever been, and glad we lost our most successful coach ever. Sounds reasonable. I wanna hire urban Meyer... we should expect it bc, well, that's what I want
10-24-2018, 08:57 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Did 7 make a good point today? Do I need to mark it down on my calendar ********

Just messing with you 7.

Bookmark it bc I'm gonna lose it Saturday night when we score 6 points, again
10-24-2018, 08:59 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I think that msstate point is EVERYONE benefited. While our exposure and money went up, so did everyone else's. Which btw, is true.

Give a million dollar salary to a millionaire doesn't have the same life changing effect as when you give it to the guy making minimum wage. More money and exposure doesn't help Tennessee as much as it did MSU.
10-24-2018, 08:59 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Bookmark it bc I'm gonna lose it Saturday night when we score 6 points, again

I'll be losing it too. No, no, no ... I'm just gonna shrug my shoulders and get ready for hoops and know that my falls will be wide open for a few seasons.

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