UK Players Just Won't Shut Up

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09-19-2018, 11:14 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Josh Robinson breaking his va6ina after Mullen wouldn't let him get 200 yards is what cost us in 2014. That and Mullen going ultra conservative vs Bama, us having multiple turnovers in Bama's redzone and our DC/DB's not being able to defend the deep pass vs OM.

Auburn and LSU are average at best on offense right now. Just from an offensive standpoint both aTm and OM have been much more impressive than the two SEC West Tigers. Malzahn has our number though lately. Hopefully that changes with Moorhead and Shoop.

Ugh dude, Ole Miss put up one TD against the only defense they faced. Their other two games they did what any decent offense would have done. Quit talking up the @#$% Confederates. They don't need any help with that.
Fact remains that Dak DID get banged up at UK. He wasn't quite the same the rest of the way that year.
09-19-2018, 11:17 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by LC Dawg

At the beginning of a game when everyone is excited and cheering and ringing cowbells do you just sit quietly and wait to see the result of the game before getting excited?

I'm yelling, but I'm not running my mouth like a an Ole Miss fan before the game/season either.
09-19-2018, 11:18 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by GoDawgz

"Play with emotion, without getting emotional" Joe Moorehead <<<<<< This
But, it is a good thing thing to keep them focused on Kentucky instead of looking forward to "Don Merlins" coming back!

Moorhead gets it.
09-19-2018, 11:30 AM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Ugh dude, Ole Miss put up one TD against the only defense they faced. Their other two games they did what any decent offense would have done. Quit talking up the @#$% Confederates. They don't need any help with that.
Fact remains that Dak DID get banged up at UK. He wasn't quite the same the rest of the way that year.

I certainly ain't talking up the Klansharks defense as it's as porous as they come but their offense is still more impressive to me than LSU and Auburn's. Which was my point. LSU and Auburn look pretty pedestrian on offense. Nobody scores on Bama.
09-19-2018, 11:33 AM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Well we beat a bad KSU team and think we are great. Our CVs are pretty much the same right now.

???? Were you in a coma in 2017? Just about the same MSU team went 9-4, with two of those losses coming to the Champion and runner up, and a third coming to a good Auburn team, and one coming to a mediocre UM team after we had to rely on our true freshman qb.

UK went 7-6, with losses to a bad UF team, and a mediocre UM team (I assume with their starting QB). They got blown out by us and also blown out by a Louisville team that we beat with a true freshman backup QB.

Even if you assume they didn't lose anybody (no clue if that's the case) and that they upgraded their QB (seems to be the case), their CV still doesn't come close to matching up.

We think we're good because basically this same team was good last year (if you think top 15ish is "good"). Unless our coaching staff turns us to crap, we will be good again this year.
09-19-2018, 12:38 PM
Lord McBuckethead

I would like to add, we beat Louisville without a coaching staff. Think about that KY fans.
09-19-2018, 12:53 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

I certainly ain't talking up the Klansharks defense as it's as porous as they come but their offense is still more impressive to me than LSU and Auburn's. Which was my point. LSU and Auburn look pretty pedestrian on offense. Nobody scores on Bama.

But it's NOT. They didn't do anything against the only defense they have played. LSU and AU both scored some on each other...and they have real defenses.
09-19-2018, 12:54 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

???? Were you in a coma in 2017? Just about the same MSU team went 9-4, with two of those losses coming to the Champion and runner up, and a third coming to a good Auburn team, and one coming to a mediocre UM team after we had to rely on our true freshman qb.

UK went 7-6, with losses to a bad UF team, and a mediocre UM team (I assume with their starting QB). They got blown out by us and also blown out by a Louisville team that we beat with a true freshman backup QB.

Even if you assume they didn't lose anybody (no clue if that's the case) and that they upgraded their QB (seems to be the case), their CV still doesn't come close to matching up.

We think we're good because basically this same team was good last year (if you think top 15ish is "good"). Unless our coaching staff turns us to crap, we will be good again this year.

Last year was last year man.
09-19-2018, 01:00 PM
smootness

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Our CVs are pretty much the same right now.

This is completely inaccurate.
09-19-2018, 01:04 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

But it's NOT. They didn't do anything against the only defense they have played. LSU and AU both scored some on each other...and they have real defenses.

It's Bama. You have 8 games of Ta'amu as their QB to watch. If you can't identify that OM's offense is better with him and those WRs than boring Burrow & LSU and struggling Auburn I can't help you. Sometimes you just have to be able to watch football and be able to tell yourself whose a better player and offense than relying on a box score or stats to tell you.
09-19-2018, 01:19 PM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Last year was last year man.

Both teams return a majority of the same players. Ours were much more physical than theirs on both sides of the ball. I don’t know what you’ve watched this year, but that has not changed. They also can’t throw the ball well enough to take advantage of our only semi weakness.
09-19-2018, 01:43 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

It's Bama. You have 8 games of Ta'amu as their QB to watch. If you can't identify that OM's offense is better with him and those WRs than boring Burrow & LSU and struggling Auburn I can't help you. Sometimes you just have to be able to watch football and be able to tell yourself whose a better player and offense than relying on a box score or stats to tell you.

Why don't we wait and see what they do against another defense then? They have only faced one.
09-19-2018, 01:43 PM
Bully13

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Originally Posted by Jarius

Both teams return a majority of the same players. Ours were much more physical than theirs on both sides of the ball. I don’t know what you’ve watched this year, but that has not changed. They also can’t throw the ball well enough to take advantage of our only semi weakness.

and nobody last year scored more or allowed less than us on them last year. out of all 13 games they played. 45-7.
09-19-2018, 01:47 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Jarius

Both teams return a majority of the same players. Ours were much more physical than theirs on both sides of the ball. I don’t know what you’ve watched this year, but that has not changed. They also can’t throw the ball well enough to take advantage of our only semi weakness.

Been at two of ours and watched the other one. Somehow y'all have confused me saying pump the brakes a bit with "we will lose to UK." What I have actually said is they are the best team we have played so far and it will be a first real (maybe) test. We have people on here saying this is our best ever team and we have only played three cupcakes so far. It may be that this is our best team ever, but we have no way of knowing that yet.
09-19-2018, 01:56 PM
Dawg61

Why wouldn't this be our best team ever?
09-19-2018, 02:12 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by smootness

This is completely inaccurate.

I'd say the three teams we have faced are roughly equal, with Florida being the best of the bunch.
09-19-2018, 02:13 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Why wouldn't this be our best team ever?

Who knows it might be, it might not be. Tell me why it is.
09-19-2018, 02:24 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Last year was last year man.

Shit, I wish I had known there were people with this opinion. I could have made a killing off you by giving you 2-1 odds and betting that we'd beat SFA straight up.
09-19-2018, 02:37 PM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Been at two of ours and watched the other one. Somehow y'all have confused me saying pump the brakes a bit with "we will lose to UK." What I have actually said is they are the best team we have played so far and it will be a first real (maybe) test. We have people on here saying this is our best ever team and we have only played three cupcakes so far. It may be that this is our best team ever, but we have no way of knowing that yet.

Kentucky is not a test. They are marginally better than a team we beat by 3 touchdowns with our qb throwing 40%. If it is, we aren't going to be nearly as good as we think. Next week is not a test either. The first real test is Auburn. I'm basing this on watching us dominate inferior opponents while they struggle to beat a terrible Central Michigan team and a Florida team that is about as good as K State. If I'm incorrect in that thinking, we are an 8-4 team. I highly doubt we are an 8-4 team.
09-19-2018, 02:42 PM
thf24

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Last year was last year man.

Last year doesn't not exist. Each football season and team doesn't live in its own vacuum.

There's a reason most good statistical prediction models heavily factor in returning starters. It's not the end-all-be-all, but it's far from meaningless.

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