Nick has had some red flags

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

What will the new site's policy be towards fruit-themed nicknames?**

Good luck...I'm sure there will be plenty of rubes ready to swear fealty.

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You're probably my favorite poster on this board except when you respond to C34 posts. Can you PM him please and get it all out and then permanently bury the hatchet. Thanks.

I guess yall think that Dak was an angel or maybe yall dont remember the guy that won the heisman trophy last year did some things on camera that some would call less than gentlemanly.

I dont want a gentleman on my team, I want a fighter thats what Fitz is. Was what he did wrong? Yes. And he is paying the price for it. We are fine. Its a strong statement from Moorhead and only makes me feel better about him suspending arguably the best QB in school history for his first game

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Originally Posted by Hambone

Exactly, it wasn?t Fitz who caused a scene about Bobs story, it was Williams.

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Fitz was right in the middle of it antagonizing and crowing if twitter. Crazy part was he wasn?t even in the article since he shaves.

Fitz had some issues when he first got here, and a lot of kids on the team did not like him because he didnt have the best work ethic (they had been with Dak for 5 years) but the QB controversy was squarely on Mullen and there should have never been one.

If Mullen leaves Fitz in vs USA and does his same ol shit with him we beat them by 21 points. But Mullen had to be Mullen and dick it up. Williams was never and SEC QB the QB whisperer thought he could make him one but Williams was bad at Texas St. It was never going to happen

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

Fitz was right in the middle of it antagonizing and crowing if twitter. Crazy part was he wasn?t even in the article since he shaves.

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I don’t remember this at all. I remember Williams getting very upset about it but I don’t remember Fitz saying a word. I could be damn wrong though. Just stating it how I remember.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Dak Prescott never got himself suspended for a game, especially not his senior year. Not a valid comparison.

I don't care about the mohawk and I'm not going to hold a long-term grudge, but it's an absolutely terrible look for the leader of our team to do something bad enough for this level of punishment.

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Agree, and Dak is no saint but he hasn't really had "public" incidents that he has been given passes for. The biggest thing he ever had that i knew about was the DUI that seemed bogus from the start and wasn't even administered properly by the arresting officer so it got thrown out. That one still comes across as some local Fife trying to make a name for himself. Only other incident I know of with Dak was the fact that he got attacked on a beach by some thugs. Not sure how that one was his fault. Dak is just a natural leader and that is why he is doing what he is doing in Dallas. I love Nick, and he is tough as nails but he doesn't have the natural leadership ability that Dak does nor is he as mature as Dak was. But that is no real criticism because we've never had another QB in our modern history with the leadership ability of Dak Prescott.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Shit- I'm trying not to post but you guys pull me back in.

Dakota Prescott is a natural leader and a damn hard worker. His teammates see that he will work just as hard as any player on the team- so not only does he get respect for being the QB- he gets respect for being one of the hardest workers on the team.

Fitz is super talented and the other players respect him. But he isnt their die-hard leader. He is the pretty-boy super talented QB that does work fairly hard. But he likes to party hard also. So the other players love him because he plays hard and parties hard. Thats why he is a captain. He is a smaller version of Michael Irvin at QB, But he has to realize that being an SEC QB has its microscope and Johnny Manziel has made it tougher on partying QB's. NFL clubs are more leary.

Word out of camp is that there is a clear gap between Fitz and Thompson- so his job isnt in jeopardy. But hopefully he has realized that partying needs to take a backseat to winning the SEC title. Only 4 QB's have had a chance to win the SEC Title in my lifetime- Bond, Madkin, Prescott, and now Fitz. He better take advantage of that chance.

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So you're saying he's John Bond 2.0

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

So you're saying he's John Bond 2.0

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Bond was good but ... Nick way better and it's not close.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Bond was good but ... Nick way better and it's not close.

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I Agree. was referring more to their personality types. And I'm a big John Bond fan!

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Agree, and Dak is no saint but he hasn't really had "public" incidents that he has been given passes for. The biggest thing he ever had that i knew about was the DUI that seemed bogus from the start and wasn't even administered properly by the arresting officer so it got thrown out. That one still comes across as some local Fife trying to make a name for himself. Only other incident I know of with Dak was the fact that he got attacked on a beach by some thugs. Not sure how that one was his fault. Dak is just a natural leader and that is why he is doing what he is doing in Dallas. I love Nick, and he is tough as nails but he doesn't have the natural leadership ability that Dak does nor is he as mature as Dak was. But that is no real criticism because we've never had another QB in our modern history with the leadership ability of Dak Prescott.

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The beach thing wasn't Dak's fault- but I do think that MSU has to possibly do a better job of letting our star football players know that the reality is they aren't "regular college students" and that their actions are going to have very public consequences. I think it's because for the past 5-10 years our football profile has increased to a point that it never has before and we're behind on a few things.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

I Agree. was referring more to their personality types. And I'm a big John Bond fan!

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Ahhh ... I get it now. Probably very much so it sounds like.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I guess yall think that Dak was an angel or maybe yall dont remember the guy that won the heisman trophy last year did some things on camera that some would call less than gentlemanly.

I dont want a gentleman on my team, I want a fighter thats what Fitz is. Was what he did wrong? Yes. And he is paying the price for it. We are fine. Its a strong statement from Moorhead and only makes me feel better about him suspending arguably the best QB in school history for his first game

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Here's the thing I don't get. Fitz gets suspended a game and now NFL GM's are going to question him. Baker Mayfield loses his cool and flips off players from KANSAS and it's all good.

Dak gets a bogus DUI and of course drops to what? Second or third round. Those idiots at Ole Miss are jumping out of windows strung out on LSD, posting bong gas mask pictures, and know two pass routes- first round picks! WTF?

Why do our players like Simmons get slammed and others don't?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Here's the thing I don't get. Fitz gets suspended a game and now NFL GM's are going to question him. Baker Mayfield loses his cool and flips off players from KANSAS and it's all good.

Dak gets a bogus DUI and of course drops to what? Second or third round. Those idiots at Ole Miss are jumping out of windows strung out on LSD, posting bong gas mask pictures, and know two pass routes- first round picks! WTF?

Why do our players like Simmons get slammed and others don't?

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Ours dont really. Baker won the heisman and made the playoff. Dak didnt. Plus the NFL is so QB crazy its ridiculous. No QB in the past draft deserved to be picked in the top 5 let alone 1.

Nkemdiche and Treadwell have been busts and anyone who really watched them in college knew what the cardinals and vikes were really getting

Tunsil was good enough to where it didnt matter but he did suffer from it.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Here's the thing I don't get. Fitz gets suspended a game and now NFL GM's are going to question him. Baker Mayfield loses his cool and flips off players from KANSAS and it's all good.

Dak gets a bogus DUI and of course drops to what? Second or third round. Those idiots at Ole Miss are jumping out of windows strung out on LSD, posting bong gas mask pictures, and know two pass routes- first round picks! WTF?

Why do our players like Simmons get slammed and others don't?

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And don't forget Smoot maybe/maybe not being caught by the cops with a lefty ciggy, and missing his last bowl game and dropping in the draft. I'm pretty sure the charges were dropped, but he paid a pretty hefty price for it. I always felt bad for him, maybe he made up for it with the boat party. But my point is don't forget him when mentioning our star players losing more to some little incident than all of those asshole landshark players combined. Guess it's standards n principles here vs that shithole.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I guess yall think that Dak was an angel or maybe yall dont remember the guy that won the heisman trophy last year did some things on camera that some would call less than gentlemanly.

I dont want a gentleman on my team, I want a fighter thats what Fitz is. Was what he did wrong? Yes. And he is paying the price for it. We are fine. Its a strong statement from Moorhead and only makes me feel better about him suspending arguably the best QB in school history for his first game

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Great post. I agree.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I guess yall think that Dak was an angel or maybe yall dont remember the guy that won the heisman trophy last year did some things on camera that some would call less than gentlemanly.

I dont want a gentleman on my team, I want a fighter thats what Fitz is. Was what he did wrong? Yes. And he is paying the price for it. We are fine. Its a strong statement from Moorhead and only makes me feel better about him suspending arguably the best QB in school history for his first game

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Neither Dak nor Baker let their teammates down by getting suspended for a game in their senior year. (Or any other year for that matter, although in fairness Baker was suspended for 1 drive for the crotchgrab.)

There's nothing wrong with seeing this is as a huge red flag for Fitz. I hope me proves he wrong, and I'll gladfully admit it when he hoists the Heisman in December and the national championship trophy in January.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Neither Dak nor Baker let their teammates down by getting suspended for a game in their senior year. (Or any other year for that matter, although in fairness Baker was suspended for 1 drive for the crotchgrab.)

There's nothing wrong with seeing this is as a huge red flag for Fitz. I hope me proves he wrong, and I'll gladfully admit it when he hoists the Heisman in December and the national championship trophy in January.

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Let his teammates down is fine. He’s answering for it.

Red flag sounds so 17ing stupid. He’s been here 4 years. This is not a red flag. It’s a bump in the road.

A red flag, for those of you who didn’t know, is a signal of danger, of more to come.

This seems like a boneheaded incident. You guys sound silly calling it a red flag.

-The Bob Carskadon beard story. Don't know if yall remember this but Bob wrote a fun, light-hearted story about the different beards on the team. A few assholes on the team, Fitz included, tried to take offense to the story and handled Bob really bad at the team complex and then crowed about it on twitter. Totally immature and shitty way to treat Bob.

This is wrong, Damian Williams made the big deal about it and Nick was laughing about it and thought is was funny. I agree Nick seems to be a little immature at times but I don't think its a problem. Once the team saw how hard Nick was during tough games it won the team over. The team is 100% behind Nick.

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