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Originally Posted by smootness

So the people who threw out the insults are not the ones in the wrong, it's the ones who didn't say enough against it?

Holy crap, man.

And I was right freaking there...saying the nickname was stupid. Just as I have every nickname meant to be an insult that has ever been used against a Mississippi State athlete. Pretending everyone was ok with 'Stone Hands' is wrong.

And I agree with your overall point - these nicknames are awful and our athletes should all be defended against them. Glad we agree on that. Now stop using them and defending those who do.

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Joe also probably around dropped 10 passes his senior year. It was probably never said outside of a game thread. I will say I never understood Big Feces also. That is a lot worse than foambat and shouldn't be used. Any derogatory name toward someone isn't right and shows more about the person saying it than it does that individual. Making fun of someone who isn't excelling at D1 sports is moronic since pretty much everyone on this board wouldn't even make the practice squad at MSU.
Everyone says or types some dumb shit occasionally, hopefully you figure it out and correct yourself.

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Originally Posted by Bulldog1

I think it has more to do with the fact that Luke has won a few games for us this year, like Q in basketball. My question is if some nickname was said about Skelton, would the same amount of people defending Skelton.

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Sam Frost wasn't any better than Luke and he didn't warrant a nickname. I probably think most of it is due to people are mad that Luke isn't living up to hype.

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Originally Posted by smootness

Hooooooooly crap.

Let me be clear:

Those who call Joe Morrow 'Stone Hands' suck.
Those who call Dak Prescott 'Checkdown Charlie' suck.
Those who call Luke Alexander 'Foambat' suck.

Those who call any Mississippi State athlete a derogatory nickname suck.

And yes, I have said this over and over about all kinds of athletes people did this with.

You post insults about college kids who play for the school you support and then defend yourself by calling others racist? Good one, bud. Quit posting.

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This! It says WAY more about the person using the nicknames than it does about the one they are insulting. I'm glad I don't go to this so-called preacher's Church.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

This! It says WAY more about the person using the nicknames than it does about the one they are insulting. I'm glad I don't go to this so-called preacher's Church.

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You prob wouldn't like it... we don't pander to liberals.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Truth hurts don't it.

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WTF does that mean? truth about what-that you might qualify as an idiot?

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

WTF does that mean? truth about what-that you might qualify as an idiot?

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Lol. Nice one.

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

I?m the one that called Jake a selfish MFer for that ONE AB he had on sat.
And he was.

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ok--way to take credit as the originator . hope you feel better. I was talking to Ole Todd--thanks for jumping in to let everyone know you taking credit for calling our player a mfer.

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

you had to dig deep for Joe--funny shit-to make a ridiculous point. You never did respond to how Selfish Mfer did yesterday--too busy looking up Joe Morrow, and you never said if you were ok with call our best player a Mfer.

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Joe Morrow was mentioned on the first page of this thread. And I never saw you defending Morrow either- so my "ridiculous point" about the double standard among MSU fan remains.

It's ridiculous that some of our fans are sensitive about players that they aren't even related to. Some of it is about being "internet cool". And I've had Sports Illustrated call a family member an "air head" before and no one in my immediate family got in as much of a tizzy about it as you about LA. (Is that OK to call him LA or is that offensive because he might not like California?) And that's just one example of something my family member was called so I know what it's like on the family side of it.

The reality of things right or wrong- "wrong" in this case- is that the further you go along in baseball the more you are going to be exposed to fans "who care". And when people care and things aren't going well they get frustrated because they don't have control over what happens on the field and that leads to anger- which leads to them saying things about the players that they probably shouldn't say. It is what it is- but it gets worse as they go further in their baseball career. Ask anyone that has played in New York City. Or any MLB town. So, if these players at MSU intend to go beyond MSU they need to learn how to ignore this kind of stuff now- or they can transfer to Arkansas State where they won't get called names. But they also won't get to play in front of people or in a league like the SEC or have the facilities that they are given here.

And I very rarely if ever call our players nickname other than something like LA- feel free to search my posts- but I also don't think I'm better than anyone else who does to the point where I feel like I need to take some moral stand against those that do. In fact if you ignore it the name calling will probably stop.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Joe Morrow was mentioned on the first page of this thread. And I never saw you defending Morrow either- so my "ridiculous point" about the double standard among MSU fan remains.

It's ridiculous that some of our fans are sensitive about players that they aren't even related to. Some of it is about being "internet cool". And I've had Sports Illustrated call a family member an "air head" before and no one in my immediate family got in as much of a tizzy about it as you about LA. (Is that OK to call him LA or is that offensive because he might not like California?) And that's just one example of something my family member was called so I know what it's like on the family side of it.

The reality of things right or wrong- "wrong" in this case- is that the further you go along in baseball the more you are going to be exposed to fans "who care". And when people care and things aren't going well they get frustrated because they don't have control over what happens on the field and that leads to anger- which leads to them saying things about the players that they probably shouldn't say. It is what it is- but it gets worse as they go further in their baseball career. Ask anyone that has played in New York City. Or any MLB town. So, if these players at MSU intend to go beyond MSU they need to learn how to ignore this kind of stuff now- or they can transfer to Arkansas State where they won't get called names. But they also won't get to play in front of people or in a league like the SEC or have the facilities that they are given here.

And I very rarely if ever call our players nickname other than something like LA- feel free to search my posts- but I also don't think I'm better than anyone else who does to the point where I feel like I need to take some moral stand against those that do. In fact if you ignore it the name calling will probably stop.

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Outstanding post!!

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Joe Morrow was mentioned on the first page of this thread. And I never saw you defending Morrow either- so my "ridiculous point" about the double standard among MSU fan remains.

It's ridiculous that some of our fans are sensitive about players that they aren't even related to. Some of it is about being "internet cool". And I've had Sports Illustrated call a family member an "air head" before and no one in my immediate family got in as much of a tizzy about it as you about LA. (Is that OK to call him LA or is that offensive because he might not like California?) And that's just one example of something my family member was called so I know what it's like on the family side of it.

The reality of things right or wrong- "wrong" in this case- is that the further you go along in baseball the more you are going to be exposed to fans "who care". And when people care and things aren't going well they get frustrated because they don't have control over what happens on the field and that leads to anger- which leads to them saying things about the players that they probably shouldn't say. It is what it is- but it gets worse as they go further in their baseball career. Ask anyone that has played in New York City. Or any MLB town. So, if these players at MSU intend to go beyond MSU they need to learn how to ignore this kind of stuff now- or they can transfer to Arkansas State where they won't get called names. But they also won't get to play in front of people or in a league like the SEC or have the facilities that they are given here.

And I very rarely if ever call our players nickname other than something like LA- feel free to search my posts- but I also don't think I'm better than anyone else who does to the point where I feel like I need to take some moral stand against those that do. In fact if you ignore it the name calling will probably stop.

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So here are a couple points you've made in this post:

1) Why care at all about people who aren't your family?
2) Athletes will be called names at some point in their careers, so why not have our own fans do it to them?

Why are people becoming more upset over those who have an issue with our fans insulting our athletes than with those doing the insulting? That seems to be the real question here. You admit yourself these are things people shouldn't be saying. Seems like the best way to get it to stop is to call out those who do it and force them to stop.

You people should hear yourselves.....

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

You people should hear yourselves.....

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Which people? All or just a certain group?

Lay off, I didn't have my morning coffee.

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Originally Posted by smootness

Lay off, I didn't have my morning coffee.

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ha, I find it amazing we agree with each other.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Joe Morrow was mentioned on the first page of this thread. And I never saw you defending Morrow either- so my "ridiculous point" about the double standard among MSU fan remains.

It's ridiculous that some of our fans are sensitive about players that they aren't even related to. Some of it is about being "internet cool". And I've had Sports Illustrated call a family member an "air head" before and no one in my immediate family got in as much of a tizzy about it as you about LA. (Is that OK to call him LA or is that offensive because he might not like California?) And that's just one example of something my family member was called so I know what it's like on the family side of it.

The reality of things right or wrong- "wrong" in this case- is that the further you go along in baseball the more you are going to be exposed to fans "who care". And when people care and things aren't going well they get frustrated because they don't have control over what happens on the field and that leads to anger- which leads to them saying things about the players that they probably shouldn't say. It is what it is- but it gets worse as they go further in their baseball career. Ask anyone that has played in New York City. Or any MLB town. So, if these players at MSU intend to go beyond MSU they need to learn how to ignore this kind of stuff now- or they can transfer to Arkansas State where they won't get called names. But they also won't get to play in front of people or in a league like the SEC or have the facilities that they are given here.

And I very rarely if ever call our players nickname other than something like LA- feel free to search my posts- but I also don't think I'm better than anyone else who does to the point where I feel like I need to take some moral stand against those that do. In fact if you ignore it the name calling will probably stop.

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you said a lot of shit--but failed to answer my questions?

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

ha, I find it amazing we agree with each other.

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I think you and I would get along pretty well

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

You prob wouldn't like it... we don't pander to liberals.

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LOL. I'm not a liberal, "preacher*****". Ask some of the folks who were on the political board before I got banned by 61. That's funny that is!!!

I'm not siding with Liverpooldawg in this argument, but I can vouch that he is not a liberal. If he were a liberal, he wouldn't have been banned from the political board.

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

you said a lot of shit--but failed to answer my questions?

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I thought it was established that I never called Jake a MFer? If not- I didn't. And I don't think it's right to do so. But I also don't think it's my place to tell people what it right or wrong. And if I did think it was my place I would be consistent across the board with it and not hold the baseball players to a different standard.

I already told you I saw the comment about Joe Morrow earlier in the thread so I didn't "dig" for it.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

LOL. I'm not a liberal, "preacher*****". Ask some of the folks who were on the political board before I got banned by 61. That's funny that is!!!

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My apologies then.