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02-26-2018, 06:55 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Intramural All-American

We clearly got screwed against Missouri, but how did we get hosed against Vandy? I’m asking legitimately because I didn’t get to watch the second half except the last 5 seconds. I know there was a bad call on X, but then the refs made an inexplicably bad call that resulted in X going to the FT line to put us up 3 if he hits both. From what I saw, we lost that game, not he refs. Again, I didn’t see much though.

The Vandy shooter walked before taking the shot- he was shocked Q left him open
02-26-2018, 06:59 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

The Vandy shooter walked before taking the shot- he was shocked Q left him open

Seems like they rarely call traveling, and when they do it wasn't even obviously traveling (to me). Seems to me like when a guy's got the ball, jumps with no dribble, then jumps again and shoots, that should be traveling. But apparently it's not. It happens all the time.
02-26-2018, 07:00 PM
RocketDawg

Somebody help me out ... is it better to be one of the "last 4 in" or "last 4 out"? I just don't understand that terminology.
02-26-2018, 07:01 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Can anybody find any evidence of the 3rd or 4th place team in a top 3 RPI conference being left out? I'd be shocked if that happened in the last 20 years

Nope but can anybody find a 3rd or 4th place team in a top 3 RPI conference with an OOC SOS as bad as ours this year either? They have been hammering us all year long about our OOC schedule. Howland put us behind the 8ball there and we all knew it back in December. We go 4-0 here were definitely in we go 3-0 we'll be sweating bullets on SS. 3 wins were sweating big time, 4 we can breath a little only 2 wins we're toast.
02-26-2018, 07:02 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by RocketDawg

Somebody help me out ... is it better to be one of the "last 4 in" or "last 4 out"? I just don't understand that terminology.

Last 4 in means you made it into the tournament as one of the last 4 teams. Last 4 out means you didn't make the tournament.
02-26-2018, 07:07 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Nope but can anybody find a 3rd or 4th place team in a top 3 RPI conference with an OOC SOS as bad as ours this year either? They have been hammering us all year long about our OOC schedule. Howland put us behind the 8ball there and we all knew it back in December. We go 4-0 here were definitely in we go 3-0 we'll be sweating bullets on SS. 3 wins were sweating big time, 4 we can breath a little only 2 wins we're toast.

I think you're right about the OOC killing us, but hopefully they'll take into account our improvement and virtually running the table in the last half of the conference schedule.
02-26-2018, 07:07 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Last 4 in means you made it into the tournament as one of the last 4 teams. Last 4 out means you didn't make the tournament.

Thank you sir. That makes sense once you think about it.
02-26-2018, 07:17 PM
Bulldog1

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Originally Posted by Coach34

The SEC wasnt a top 3 RPI conference that year

Nope. That’s why said the SEC was a lot weaker then
02-26-2018, 07:18 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Nope but can anybody find a 3rd or 4th place team in a top 3 RPI conference with an OOC SOS as bad as ours this year either? They have been hammering us all year long about our OOC schedule. Howland put us behind the 8ball there and we all knew it back in December. We go 4-0 here were definitely in we go 3-0 we'll be sweating bullets on SS. 3 wins were sweating big time, 4 we can breath a little only 2 wins we're toast.

Top 4 teams in a top 3 RPI conference are not going to get left out of the NCAA Tourney
02-26-2018, 07:22 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Bulldog1

Nope. That’s why said the SEC was a lot weaker then

thats why your response to my post didnt make sense

The NCAA is not going to leave out a team that finishes 3rd or 4th in a conference that finishes in the top 3 in RPI.
02-26-2018, 07:23 PM
Bulldog1

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Originally Posted by Coach34

thats why your response to my post didnt make sense

The NCAA is not going to leave out a team that finishes 3rd or 4th in a conference that finishes in the top 3 in RPI.

sorry. Didn’t see that part
ETA: I agree with you. I’ve been saying for 2 weeks they won’t leave us out 11-7 in conference.
02-26-2018, 07:29 PM
Bulldog1

Now we’re 1.5 point favorites.
02-26-2018, 07:54 PM
Ari Gold

Need Kansas to take care of business against Texas tonight
02-26-2018, 07:54 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by Intramural All-American

We clearly got screwed against Missouri, but how did we get hosed against Vandy? I?m asking legitimately because I didn?t get to watch the second half except the last 5 seconds. I know there was a bad call on X, but then the refs made an inexplicably bad call that resulted in X going to the FT line to put us up 3 if he hits both. From what I saw, we lost that game, not he refs. Again, I didn?t see much though.

The play that screwed us at Vandy. We are up 2. They miss a free throw and Q rebounds and they call a phantom foul on X. We would have been up 2 with Q shooting free throws.
02-26-2018, 08:02 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Coach34

thats why your response to my post didnt make sense

The NCAA is not going to leave out a team that finishes 3rd or 4th in a conference that finishes in the top 3 in RPI.

St. John's 2014
02-26-2018, 08:04 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

St. John's 2014

Virginia Tech 2010
02-26-2018, 08:09 PM
Bulldog1

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

The play that screwed us at Vandy. We are up 2. They miss a free throw and Q rebounds and they call a phantom foul on X. We would have been up 2 with Q shooting free throws.

I still don’t know what they called on X. That was terrible
02-26-2018, 08:15 PM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by Intramural All-American

We clearly got screwed against Missouri, but how did we get hosed against Vandy? I?m asking legitimately because I didn?t get to watch the second half except the last 5 seconds. I know there was a bad call on X, but then the refs made an inexplicably bad call that resulted in X going to the FT line to put us up 3 if he hits both. From what I saw, we lost that game, not he refs. Again, I didn?t see much though.

Q got that rebound on the block out by X where the phantom foul was called. At that point, we were up by 2 with 6 seconds left. If that foul isn?t called, we go up by 4 as you saw what happens when Q gets a rebound when we are up by 2 with mere seconds to go. Q drains those free throws. If the ref just swallows his whistle, we win that game. We were screwed.
02-26-2018, 08:43 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Top 4 teams in a top 3 RPI conference are not going to get left out of the NCAA Tourney

I wish I could agree with you but even if we beat Tenn and LSU our work isn't done. I'll have your same confidence once we win the next 4 games in front of us. That puts us in the SECT Champ game and 24-8 playing for an automatic bid vs probably Kentucky. That's what I want. SECT champ game vs Kentucky. Win and we are in automatically lose and we are still in at 24-9. I wouldn't be shocked if this team continues on a nice winning streak. We are peaking right now, we are healthy and we are gaining more confidence with each win.
02-26-2018, 08:47 PM
Intramural All-American

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

Q got that rebound on the block out by X where the phantom foul was called. At that point, we were up by 2 with 6 seconds left. If that foul isn?t called, we go up by 4 as you saw what happens when Q gets a rebound when we are up by 2 with mere seconds to go. Q drains those free throws. If the ref just swallows his whistle, we win that game. We were screwed.

Gotcha, thanks. Yea, I never saw that play, but I heard it was a terrible call. Really frustrating that the refs very easily could screw us out of the NCAA tournament. We would be on a 9 game win streak and easily in the tournament without those calls. The fact that A&M is safely in is baffling to me. It is crystal clear who the better team is between the two teams. At some point you have to put the numbers down and actually watch the games. We are clearly one of the top 38 teams in the country, and we have demonstrated that in conference. We are also clearly a different team now than we were in January. Unfortunately, we watch us a lot more than everyone else, so what we see may not be as evident to outsiders.

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