Could Cohen be pulling off a Grand Slam?

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11-28-2017, 07:55 PM
Lord McBuckethead

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

https://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...se-chad-morris

Yeah keep grantham and sign me up jack, 14-22 record at SMU is a bit concerning but they were awful before he took the job there. 2-10 his first year to 7-5 now. We would be hellacious on offense and Grantham staying for our D this is prolly the best move I've seen being considered.

Really Morris or Moorhead.
11-28-2017, 07:57 PM
Coach007

No to Chad Morris. Come on.... If we can't do better than that, then we are simply stupid.
11-28-2017, 07:57 PM
MeridianDog

We need to come out on the positive side of this and this would help a lot.
11-28-2017, 08:00 PM
raymond21

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly don't want Morris.

Now Moorhead + Grantham, now that is something to get behind.

I approve
11-28-2017, 08:01 PM
TheWorkHersch

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Originally Posted by Coach

No to Chad Morris. Come on.... If we can't do better than that, then we are simply stupid.

Solid analysis****
11-28-2017, 08:03 PM
Dawgs87

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I know it is a moot point, but Kiffin?s turnaround is much, much more impressive

I approve of this message.

Don't get me wrong. Morris sounds like a homerun OC hire for Pruitt, Kiffin or Leach.

The thought of Moorhead just makes me very uninspired and sad.
11-28-2017, 08:05 PM
msstate7

Morris is middle of the pack recruiting in the AAC. Houston, Cincinnati, ucf, and USF are all ahead in recruiting rankings, which is understandable. Temple with Collins is ahead of them too though, which leads me to believe Morris is not the elite recruiter being portrayed here. Collins is a good recruiter, but smu has much more talent surrounding it.

ETA... Morris has finished 7th out of 12 in his first 2 years. He is 6th this year
11-28-2017, 08:06 PM
sleepy dawg

Let's chill on the SMU is the worst program ever talk and Chad saved them

Before Chad:
2009 8-5: Conference Champs
2010 7-7: Conference Champs
2011 8-5
2012 7-6
2013 5-7
2014 1-9 (Head coach resigned after 2 games)
In comes Chad:
2015 2-10
2016 5-7
2016 7-5

I'll give you he's had them heading back in the right direction, but to try to act like he's superman is ridiculous. A good coach should be able to dominate in the AAC even with less than stellar talent. 2 of their 4 losing seasons in the past 9 years came under Chad's watch.

Mullen turned us around quicker with a way shittier recent history. Did we have better talent, yes, but we also played in a waaay tougher conference to win in.

This may infact turn out to be a good hire, but to call it a "homerun" hire is absurd... Maybe more like a double, triple at best.
11-28-2017, 08:07 PM
Cooterpoot

Give me Morris over Moorhead everyday. Morris has turned SMU around. Just needs a DC.
11-28-2017, 08:09 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by sleepy dawg

Let's chill on the SMU is the worst program ever talk and Chad saved them

Before Chad:
2009 8-5: Conference Champs
2010 7-7: Conference Champs
2011 8-5
2012 7-6
2013 5-7
2014 1-9 (Head coach resigned after 2 games)
In comes Chad:
2015 2-10
2016 5-7
2016 7-5

I'll give you he's had them heading back in the right direction, but to try to act like he's superman is ridiculous. A good coach should be able to dominate in the AAC even with less than stellar talent. 2 of their 4 losing seasons in the past 9 years came under Chad's watch.

Mullen turned us around quicker with a way shittier recent history. Did we have better talent, yes, but we also played in a waaay tougher conference to win in.

This may infact turn out to be a good hire, but to call it a "homerun" hire is absurd... Maybe more like a double, triple at best.

While I don't know who the best hire is, please define slam dunk at msu? Cause we can hire a guy like him or a coordinating that's never been a head coach. There is no ben howlamd out there pal.
11-28-2017, 08:12 PM
was21

Board consensus wanting defensive guy Grantham to remain. So that would leave Morris and Moorhead in play...the other defensive guy would be out....sounds like a brilliant ploy or play
11-28-2017, 08:13 PM
Dawgs87

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

While I don't know who the best hire is, please define slam dunk at msu? Cause we can hire a guy like him or a coordinating that's never been a head coach. There is no ben howlamd out there pal.

So we can hire a guy with no head coaching experience or a guy with 14-22 worth of head coaching experience. No thanks on the Gene Chizik offer, unless he comes with Cam for at least one season.

Speaking of which, wth were Jay Jacobs and Pat Dye thinking? Chizik pre Auburn HC experience:
2007 Iowa State 3–9 2–6 T–5th (North)
2008 Iowa State 2–10 0–8 6th (North)
Iowa State: 5–19 2–14
11-28-2017, 08:17 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Dawgs87

So we can hire a guy with no head coaching experience or a guy with 14-22 worth of head coaching experience. No thanks on the Gene Chizik offer.

He took over a dumpster fire. Worse than Mullen took over. Terrible. Beyond that. So a crap shoot or a guy who has proven he can turn a place around?? Gene chizik was 3-8 at Iowa st and won at auburn so I guess you made my point. Thanks!
11-28-2017, 08:17 PM
Percho

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

U just told me grantham office was cleaned out.

Moving into a bigger space???
11-28-2017, 08:21 PM
BulldogDX55

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Originally Posted by sleepy dawg

Let's chill on the SMU is the worst program ever talk and Chad saved them

Before Chad:
2009 8-5: Conference Champs
2010 7-7: Conference Champs
2011 8-5
2012 7-6
2013 5-7
2014 1-9 (Head coach resigned after 2 games)
In comes Chad:
2015 2-10
2016 5-7
2016 7-5

I'll give you he's had them heading back in the right direction, but to try to act like he's superman is ridiculous. A good coach should be able to dominate in the AAC even with less than stellar talent. 2 of their 4 losing seasons in the past 9 years came under Chad's watch.

Mullen turned us around quicker with a way shittier recent history. Did we have better talent, yes, but we also played in a waaay tougher conference to win in.

This may infact turn out to be a good hire, but to call it a "homerun" hire is absurd... Maybe more like a double, triple at best.

2013 and prior they were CUSA, a much weaker conference.
11-28-2017, 08:26 PM
preachermatt83

If u can keep grantham and hire a very good offensive coach (Morris or Moorhead) you jump on it in a split second.
11-28-2017, 08:27 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

If u can keep grantham and hire a very good offensive coach (Morris or Moorhead) you jump on it in a split second.

I agree
11-28-2017, 08:28 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

If u can keep grantham and hire a very good offensive coach (Morris or Moorhead) you jump on it in a split second.

I'm with you on this....
11-28-2017, 08:29 PM
sleepy dawg

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

While I don't know who the best hire is, please define slam dunk at msu? Cause we can hire a guy like him or a coordinating that's never been a head coach. There is no ben howlamd out there pal.

I can't answer that question, buddy. I don't have the answers either. I'm also not saying I wouldn't fully support him if that's who we get, b/c I will and I just will hope I have no idea what I'm talking about and the rest of you are geniuses.

I thought HR the moment I heard we hired these guys:
Dan Mullen
Ben Howland
John Cohen
Andy Cannizaro

I did not think HR when we hired:
Rick Ray

I am by no means saying I think Chad is the next Ray, but for where our program is right now, this isn't a HR for us. It's just pretty good.
11-28-2017, 08:29 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

If u can keep grantham and hire a very good offensive coach (Morris or Moorhead) you jump on it in a split second.

Exactly!!!

Get them on board quick and go lock down the receivers and get another corner.

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