Exactly! They think they are bama but they aint.Quote:
Originally Posted by LC Dawg
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Exactly! They think they are bama but they aint.Quote:
Originally Posted by LC Dawg
Since 2009 the records are:
MSU 61-42
UT 53-48
Not including this year and we play in the SEC West. Now you tell me who the better program is now and not in the past or based on fan support and shit. All that doesn’t mean shit in the grand scheme of things because your school and alumni are rich and big!!!
Here’s a DYK....
Tennessee’s offense has scored 9 points in their last 14 quarters (3.5 games) of play (3 FGs, 0 TDS)...
They haven?t scored a td on offense since September 23. That?s brutalQuote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
Bama wasn't crap before Saban. Remember that. Exact same situation as Tennessee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
The only difference is the lack of in-state talent in Tennessee. I'm not sure that matters. They and Nebraska are going to be interesting case studies moving forward. If they blow this hire, they might not ever get back.
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Originally Posted by Bucky Dog
Exactly. Consider that the East has sucked ass in that time frame and being in the East is essentially worth 2 more wins per year. Extrapolate that over that time frame and subtract it from TN and they are under .500 as a program the last 8 years
You have lost your GD mindQuote:
Originally Posted by Mimi's Babies
Wut? Did you forget ***Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasu Dackds
"Bama wasn't crap before Saban"?
Yeah, the “UT can’t afford, blah, blah, blah” amuses me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasu Dackds
They may suck ass, but it’s still a big time program re: $..
I'm more bullish on Nebraska than UT. Nebraska doesn't have a great natural recruiting footprint, but it's better than UT's. If you look at natural advantages, is out UT behind Florida, Uga, and even slightly behind USCe in the east.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasu Dackds
They got plenty of money but the athletic dept has been poorly managed.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
He meant 00-06. I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Management can change almost overnight. The things that UT does have going for it take much, much longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
I’ll add one other tidbit on the Coondogs:
They are an “average” hire away from being a regular ~9-10 win program.
It can but they have been really inept for awhile now and haven?t shown an inkling at change. Money doesn?t always fix everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
Butch was an ?average? hire.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
They lack instate talent but they still recruit fairly well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasu Dackds
Tennessee’s 5 year recruiting average is 15th and MSU’s is 24th.
They aren’t an elite recruiter anymore.
Depends on who they draw from the West.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
Bama and UGA should be losses for the foreseeable future, and Florida is an average hire from being better due to more local talent resources.
If they draw any SEC West team other than Arkansas or OM over the next 5 years, they really are only a 8-9 win program.
Tusk, average you say want be a 9-10 win program. Where is this "average hire" you speak?Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
I will say it again, Tn and TSUN have a lot in common, living in the past!
At the time, Kiffin was considered a home run hire. He was everything Fat Phil wasn?t - young, hard recruiter, coming off a helluva run at USC, considered an offensive prodigy, and was going to bring his Dad and his super defense with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
That went well.
And you are right - Butch was supposed to be a home run too. Turns out he could only win with Dooley recruits.