Early reports on K Thompson

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

LOL at people talking about "melting". We either have a lot of sheep or a lot of people that don't understand how important the o-line is. If people don't want to talk about our team in an objective way or get offended when we are talking about our team in an objective way, well here's a link:

http://www.scout.com/college/mississippi-state/

As for me it's going to be pretty hilarious at the spin when Rankin is named the center. Of course we already have that with "Who knows he may be even better at center?" Hilarious.

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I'll take that bet on Rankin & center.

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Originally Posted by justwin

Dak's sr year was incompetent RBs in Shump & Holloway. Not the OL. Shump found multiple ways to lose game to LSU. Aeris & DLee should've gotten 10+ carries each vs USM opening game after RS'ing and been lead guys rest of the year. That's why the midget who signed with LSU a few weeks ago was so big for our program so it wouldn't ruin Key's jr & sr year. Instead, Key is going to be paired exclusively with Kylin. Tyler's jr & sr year was ruined by Perkins like Dak with Shump & Holloway in 2015. You can't tell me that the soph J-Rob shouldn't have played over perk. J-Rob was why we made the run in 2014 as a jr.

Hopefully, we can sign another big powerful RB this class and no midgets for the sake of Key's sr year.

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I agree with that- Dan's offense needs to have a between the tackles running back just as much as he needs a dual threat QB to work. At the same time- Rufus Warren was terrible at LT and Desper struggled and that should have been addressed before Dak's senior year. It's just frustrating to me as "Joe Fan" so look at a depth chart and see that we don't have any centers like two years out, mention it on message boards while we're chasing random projects OT's from Georgia and God knows where else and not addressing the issue. Even if it's not Rankin it's going to be someone that is inexperienced and it could be an issue.

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Originally Posted by KB21

I see this false agenda is still being pushed.

The reason Martinas is getting reps at center is because the projected starter Calhoun is out, and the guy who is projected to be his back up Williams is also out. Moon is the 3rd center at this point.

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Any time table on Daryl Williams returning?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

You and random are not objective... you hate Mullen. I'm a Mullen guy, so I'm not objective either. IYOK is objective and he called it a melt

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WTF? Yeah- I criticized the hell out of him when he ran Holloway up the middle, looked like he didn't give a shit and then promptly followed that up by losing to South Alabama not to mention Hevesy's recruiting. I've also been one of the first to praise him for as I said "making the changes I wanted to see"- including hiring a new DC which exceeded my expectations, finishing recruiting strong, hiring Looney to replace Sallach and possibly Hevesy down the road among other things and saying that he should have gotten the extension he did- and yet "I hate him"? If you read my posts I'm a lot more objective than some on here. I call it like it is good and bad. Some people don't like it when I call out the bad- but a lot of the time it's warranted and it turns out that many of the things I've criticized over the years Dan has changed.

I criticize not because I hate- it's because I want to be the best and I can see room for improvement and I want to see improvement. Heck- I do that to myself everyday in my own job. And every single time Dan has made a change that I liked- I've been one of the first to say so.

You on the other hand just blindly trust until you freak out- probably about the same things I initially complain- oh, I'm sorry "melt"- about during a game thread- apparently because I honestly don't read those too often unless I'm not at the game.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I'll take that bet on Rankin & center.

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OK- I can laugh at you when Rankin is named the center and you can laugh at me when he isn't. Deal?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

OK- I can laugh at you when Rankin is named the center and you can laugh at me when he isn't. Deal?

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Deal

My question is why are we rebooting this exact same bitchfest knowing full well that after we whiffed on a million targets in the 2015 class that this was going to be an issue starting right about now? None of this is news. Hev showed some improvement in the 2016 class with some guys he brought in. Maybe some of those guys will be able to step in and play, but we likely won't know until August. Spring practice will always be spring practice, its pointless to start bitching this damn early. And yeah, Moon probably sucks. So what. So do 40-50% of OL that have signed with any school, ever. It's a difficult position to evaluate and always will be. Let it play out with what we have on hand in August before losing your shit, folks.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

1st day melt I'm impressed

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You've lost you're fire since we extended you. Heard you showed up in shorts today and grinned through the entire practice.

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Originally Posted by HSVDawg

My question is why are we rebooting this exact same bitchfest knowing full well that after we whiffed on a million targets in the 2015 class that this was going to be an issue starting right about now? None of this is news. Hev showed some improvement in the 2016 class with some guys he brought in. Maybe some of those guys will be able to step in and play, but we likely won't know until August. Spring practice will always be spring practice, its pointless to start bitching this damn early. And yeah, Moon probably sucks. So what. So do 40-50% of OL that have signed with any school, ever. It's a difficult position to evaluate and always will be. Let it play out with what we have on hand in August before losing your shit, folks.

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Not really. He brought in Suggs who I agree will be pretty good. But then he has a grade risk in Cooper and a project in Richardson from the high school ranks and that's it. Then from the JUCO ranks he has two guys that we'll probably have to redshirt from what I have heard after missing out on our top JUCO RT target that we needed so we wouldn't have to start an underclassman there. And yes, I know there is a good chance that Cooper makes it and I think if he does he will be good but that's not how you want to live in recruiting- hoping you find a bunch of guys that are grade risks and then hoping for the best.

And you are right about it being a difficult position to evaluate- that's why we need to bring in five a year from the high school ranks and not three. Especially if we're redshirting JUCO o-linemen anyway. Sure some of those five won't pan out, but you process them and hopefully at least 2-3 do pan out in a class and then after you process out then you go get a JUCO guy or two.

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Originally Posted by HSVDawg

My question is why are we rebooting this exact same bitchfest knowing full well that after we whiffed on a million targets in the 2015 class that this was going to be an issue starting right about now? None of this is news. Hev showed some improvement in the 2016 class with some guys he brought in. Maybe some of those guys will be able to step in and play, but we likely won't know until August. Spring practice will always be spring practice, its pointless to start bitching this damn early. And yeah, Moon probably sucks. So what. So do 40-50% of OL that have signed with any school, ever. It's a difficult position to evaluate and always will be. Let it play out with what we have on hand in August before losing your shit, folks.

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+1

Rankin is more draftable as an interior o-lineman, staff just trying to HABU that's all.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Not really. He brought in Suggs who I agree will be pretty good. But then he has a grade risk in Cooper and a project in Richardson from the high school ranks and that's it. Then from the JUCO ranks he has two guys that we'll probably have to redshirt from what I have heard after missing out on our top JUCO RT target that we needed so we wouldn't have to start an underclassman there. And yes, I know there is a good chance that Cooper makes it and I think if he does he will be good but that's not how you want to live in recruiting- hoping you find a bunch of guys that are grade risks and then hoping for the best.

And you are right about it being a difficult position to evaluate- that's why we need to bring in five a year from the high school ranks and not three. Especially if we're redshirting JUCO o-linemen anyway. Sure some of those five won't pan out, but you process them and hopefully at least 2-3 do pan out in a class and then after you process out then you go get a JUCO guy or two.

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I agree with bringing in a lot of OL per year. But the last class was an improvement no matter how you slice it. It's still not where we need to be by any means in terms of annual OL recruiting, but is way better than the class that preceded it.

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Originally Posted by HSVDawg

I agree with bringing in a lot of OL per year. But the last class was an improvement no matter how you slice it. It's still not where we need to be by any means in terms of annual OL recruiting, but is way better than the class that preceded it.

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That's debatable depending on how you look at it- Reese will probably start for us and Eiland could start this year and will probably start. Parker is a project. But there are no JUCO's in the 2016 class unlike our last class. IMO the high school guys in the 2016 class are about the same as the high school guys in the 2017 class if we're just looking at the high school recruits. Now, I do agree that if you add in the JUCO guys it's an improvement because I do think at the very least Champion will start at some point and maybe Phillips depending on how he develops vs. the zero JUCO's in the 2016 class where we should have brought in two in that class.

Like you said, it's still not where it needs to be and that's the problem. My hope is that Looney will help fix it and I do like Dolla Bill Johnson in the 2018 class and that's a good start at the very least.

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Originally Posted by justwin

Dak's sr year was incompetent RBs in Shump & Holloway. Not the OL. Shump found multiple ways to lose game to LSU. Aeris & DLee should've gotten 10+ carries each vs USM opening game after RS'ing and been lead guys rest of the year. That's why the midget who signed with LSU a few weeks ago was so big for our program so it wouldn't ruin Key's jr & sr year. Instead, Key is going to be paired exclusively with Kylin. Tyler's jr & sr year was ruined by Perkins like Dak with Shump & Holloway in 2015. You can't tell me that the soph J-Rob shouldn't have played over perk. J-Rob was why we made the run in 2014 as a jr.

Hopefully, we can sign another big powerful RB this class and no midgets for the sake of Key's sr year.

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Exactly, well said. I am just curious what defective running back mullen will start over Aeris this season.

All of these John Madden's who know more than Mullen. Sheessh.

I'm just gonna close my eyes & ears and hope y'all are wrong.

If Rankin stays at center I'm going to personally lead the pitchfork and torch march on Hev's office.

On a non-melting note......are there any practices open to the public this Spring? If so....when?

So I open this thread to read about how our incoming freshman qb looked on the FIRST DAY OF SPRING PRACTICE and instead its hacked by the same people that bitch about the same shit every mother ****ing day of the year. Can we please just set up a board titled "OFFENSIVE LINE SUCKS" or "Hevesy Haters" or something so the other 99 percent of the board doesn't have to read this shit anymore. Damn this is some ridiculous shit to read on the first freaking day of spring practice.

The agenda lives!

One day of practice, damn.

IYOK, Todd would kick your ass in play station decisions, he is Bear Bryant made all over.

Random, you need to C34 to teach you more patience after one day of practice or even spring practices. Nothing wrong with moving folks around to see, after all they aren't doing a lot of hitting right now, kinda like window shopping.

What a meltdown, Fire Mullen!****