Im beginning to think Mississippiwill get the Death Penalty

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

There is no precedent for this. What they've done is unprecedented.

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Doesn't matter. The precedent of a team being kicked out of the league, especially a founding member, would not be a good precedent to set.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

You guys are gonna be sorely disappointed. Sanctions will be program crippling no doubt but they ain't getting the death penalty and they ain't getting kicked out of the Sec.

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Can't you let us have our fun????

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

They aren't going to get kicked out of the SEC. They might actually wish they had by the time this is all over with though.

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If they take the kind of action many of their fans want...it could become a possibility. A huge portion of their fanbase wants them to go after other SEC schools, including Bama, in an effort to "take them down with them". They also advocate suing the NCAA.

Can you imagine how the SEC office would view it if the UNM admin, or some rogue UNM lawyers/boosters enact a plan such as that?

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

There is no precedent for this. What they've done is unprecedented.

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Yup, they have made a mockery of the entire NCAA investigation process, and if they've been caught AGAIN with their hand in the cookie jar (October or November, 2016), they will become as irrelevant as a program can be.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

You got any left? That stuff must be good.

Academic fraud and recruiting inducements that implicate several coaches, across several sports, across multiple staffs and people think it's the same as Jackie Wayne? Wow.

Zero percent chance their probation looks anything like anything we've ever seen. Zero.

I also think the death penalty and removal from the SEC are squarely in play. The SEC does not consider them a big enough draw to take this black eye that's coming. It's bad. Its worse than Miami, UNC, USC, and SMU.

Prediction: it will be the most aggregious listing of violations in the history of the NCAA.

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Step back and think, this is a new era that the NCAA has to get programs under control. It has to fire a shot across the bough of the big dog cheaters, we know who they. What better way than to make an example of a smaller dog cheater-Mississippi university.

NCAA has the motivation; the NCAA has the proof. There's gonna be metaphoric blood in the square and on the Purty Campus. The effect on Oxford will be meteoric.

Exactly. There has never been epic cheating like this.

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Originally Posted by Indndawg

Step back and think, this is a new era that the NCAA has to get programs under control. It has to fire a shot across the bough of the big dog cheaters, we know who they. What better way than to make an example of a smaller dog cheater-Mississippi university.

NCAA has the motivation; the NCAA has the proof. There's gonna be metaphoric blood in the square and on the Purty Campus. The effect on Oxford will be meteoric.

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Potentially very bad timing by Ole Miss for sure.

If Old Misses gets kicked outta the SEC (which I don't think is possible) I would expect the team that replaces them is Oklahoma. The ACC schools are much more difficult to get because of the measures the conference took to ensure no school leaves.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

If Old Misses gets kicked outta the SEC (which I don't think is possible) I would expect the team that replaces them is Oklahoma. The ACC schools are much more difficult to get because of the measures the conference took to ensure no school leaves.

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True about the ACC schools. However, Maryland left for the BIG after those measures were put in place.

Where's Spiderman been hiding? It's long past time for him to tell us that one of his big Ole Miss booster/golfing pals are telling him that they'll skate?

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Screw the Egg Bowl at that point. Just put that trophy in a special place with a monument that says "Permanently Residing In Starkville due to the arrogance of our northern friends. RIP Mississippi." We can double the insult by starting a new trophy with LSU called "The Col. Reb Cup" in memory of what used to be.

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Well I tried to give you some rep points... says I have to spread some around.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

If Old Misses gets kicked outta the SEC (which I don't think is possible) I would expect the team that replaces them is Oklahoma. The ACC schools are much more difficult to get because of the measures the conference took to ensure no school leaves.

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I've heard a SEC athletic director address Oklahoma. If the SEC were to take them, the existing teams would take a large cut in their share of the SEC money. There aren't enough TVs in Oklahoma to offset the extra share. Of course he was talking about them as an addition, not as a replacement.

I don't think the SEC can expel a charter member. But the thing to remember is Mississippi will lose it's share of SEC money for the duration of the probation, at the end or the probation they will receive half of the money they would have received. That's approximately 31M/year of money they don't have in their athletic budget.

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

I don't think the SEC can expel a charter member. But the thing to remember is Mississippi will lose it's share of SEC money for the duration of the probation, at the end or the probation they will receive half of the money they would have received. That's approximately 31M/year of money they don't have in their athletic budget.

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Ok...How 'bout the SEC offices have a chat with SEC officials, "suggesting" that every hold by OM linemen....every possible "illegal receiver downfield", etc be acutely watched for and called. It's been said holding could be called on nearly every play. Imagine UNM football where they get called for holding damn near every time they make a first down.

Not gonna happen, I know, but it would be fun to watch.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

You guys are gonna be sorely disappointed. Sanctions will be program crippling no doubt but they ain't getting the death penalty and they ain't getting kicked out of the Sec.

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I hope they don't, and I doubt they do in the end, but it's gotten to that point. They're getting popped for having their hand in the cookie jar again in 2017. They're going to be q decade deep before they know it. Thy won't stop. That's becoming apparent now and it's apparent to the NCAA. What choice do they have?

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

I hope they don't, and I doubt they do in the end, but it's gotten to that point. They're getting popped for having their hand in the cookie jar again in 2017. They're going to be q decade deep before they know it. Thy won't stop. That's becoming apparent now and it's apparent to the NCAA. What choice do they have?

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We're 9 days into 2017, and they've been caught cheating again?! Is this firm info, or just hopeful rumors? I don't see how they don't receive SMU level sanctions if they are *still* cheating, after already supposedly being caught *still* cheating.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

I've heard a SEC athletic director address Oklahoma. If the SEC were to take them, the existing teams would take a large cut in their share of the SEC money. There aren't enough TVs in Oklahoma to offset the extra share. Of course he was talking about them as an addition, not as a replacement.

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OU is a helmet school near the level of Bama. Population wouldn't matter due to the content they would offer. OU in the SEC west (replacing Bama) would be a huge win for the conference. UMiss getting kicked out would be a big plus for the SEC coffers in that scenario.

Ole Miss is redefining "scorched earth" war policy. The ruskies don't have shit on the confeds.

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Originally Posted by Technetium

We're 9 days into 2017, and they've been caught cheating again?! Is this firm info, or just hopeful rumors? I don't see how they don't receive SMU level sanctions if they are *still* cheating, after already supposedly being caught *still* cheating.

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Sorry. 2017 class. Happened a 2-3 months ago. Pretty firm on this one. Not sure how far the NCAA will track it, but they know about it and have interviewed the kid(s) involved.

It never ceases to amaze me the number of guys on here who will come out and flatly say "UM is not getting the death penalty." Talking about the possibility of the death penalty only hurts UM.