Dan Mullen- in 8 seasons

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11-14-2016, 03:29 PM
TUSK

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

If the officials had called some holds early on Bama and we had capitalized on the situations you mentioned above, I think the score could have been something like 38-20 which is still a loss but a much closer loss. It was funny because on a film study that Jake Wimberly showed on Twitter regarding Alabama's blocking prowess it showed four holds and a block in the back. I'm sorry but if you're #1 in the country you shouldn't have to hold 99% of the time to create holes. Their OL is way overrated for what they do. It's not one of their better OLs.

REC doin' werk.
11-14-2016, 05:21 PM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by TUSK

REC doin' werk.

Sure, but if you looked at that video you would have seen the four holds and the block in the back. It's very odd the #1 team in the country needs to hold so much as well. In fact, wouldn't surprise me if Cristobal just tells them to hold until it's called. It never was called so they just kept right on holding.
11-14-2016, 05:27 PM
thf24

Can't find solid info on more recent seasons, but weren't you guys called for something like only two or three holds in the 2009 and 2010 seasons combined? 42 quarters without a holding penalty? Ref conspiracies get thrown around too much, but no one's that good.
11-14-2016, 05:57 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by thf24

Can't find solid info on more recent seasons, but weren't you guys called for something like only two or three holds in the 2009 and 2010 seasons combined? 42 quarters without a holding penalty? Ref conspiracies get thrown around too much, but no one's that good.

Watch Boise st in the MWC. They get away with everything, much like bama. Once lead is insurmountable, then flag them to make it look even. I'm not much on conspiracy theories, but I do believe conferences protect their favorites... makes sense financially
11-14-2016, 06:07 PM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by Thick

Well, OM did not get the memo. OM has no running game, but they have approached Bama with the attitude that they CAN win.

Money sure can help. Until you get caught.
11-14-2016, 06:12 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Stop being a dickhead and just say what the **** it is you want to accomplish from your anti-Mullen stance. You want him fired? You want Hevesy fired? You want to get sideline passes every weekend and get the cheerleaders to touch your balls? You want MSU to hire you to be an assistant coach? When did your drink turn sour with Mullen and what is it that you want??

Country Club Boys
Miami posturing during Egg Bowl week with a huge bowl berth on the line- losing Egg at home.
Lack of recruiting that kept us from capitalizing on our success
Posturing for other jobs this Fall.

Everything just cant be put out there
11-14-2016, 06:37 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Country Club Boys
Miami posturing during Egg Bowl week with a huge bowl berth on the line- losing Egg at home.
Lack of recruiting that kept us from capitalizing on our success
Posturing for other jobs this Fall.

Everything just cant be put out there

Right but most if not all of this happened during 2015-early2016. It's now in the past. How long are we supposed to keep punishing Dan for past mistakes? Let it go. We aren't even ten days from him bringing MSU one of the biggest upsets our University has won in the last 30 years and you've already forgotten all about that. Why is it so easy for you to forget all the good yet so difficult to move on from the bad?
11-14-2016, 06:42 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Country Club Boys
Miami posturing during Egg Bowl week with a huge bowl berth on the line- losing Egg at home.
Lack of recruiting that kept us from capitalizing on our success
Posturing for other jobs this Fall.

Everything just cant be put out there

I heard something I need to bounce off you PM me your box is full.
11-14-2016, 06:51 PM
was21

Not a good benchmark to rate Mullen..or any other coach for that matter
11-14-2016, 06:57 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Right but most if not all of this happened during 2015-early2016. It's now in the past. How long are we supposed to keep punishing Dan for past mistakes? Let it go. We aren't even ten days from him bringing MSU one of the biggest upsets our University has won in the last 30 years and you've already forgotten all about that. Why is it so easy for you to forget all the good yet so difficult to move on from the bad?

We are on the edge of a losing season. You yourself has said anybody can go 6-6 in today's SEC
I dont see us being any better in 2017. We lose a ton of linemen- including our Center- which has typically caused us serious problems. Our schedule next year is extremely tough. This is way different from 2013 when we were bringing back alot on the OL and DL- with young promising WR's.

The upset was great- but it doesnt cancel out South Alabama, Kentucky, or BYU. Things are going to get worse before they get better. Going to Georgia, Auburn, A&M, UPig next year is a tough slate with certain losses Bama and LSU at home.
11-14-2016, 07:21 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

I dont see us being any better in 2017. The upset was great- but it doesnt cancel out South Alabama, Kentucky, or BYU. Things are going to get worse before they get better.

If we get a kicker we don't lose to USA, UK or BYU. Do you agree we have three more wins right now and are sitting at 7-3 if Graves isn't our kicker this year? One competent kicker away from a totally different season right now.

We have extra scholarships, Mullen should offer a full scholarship to the top 25 rated high school kickers till one signs up.
11-14-2016, 07:25 PM
TUSK

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

Sure, but if you looked at that video you would have seen the four holds and the block in the back. It's very odd the #1 team in the country needs to hold so much as well. In fact, wouldn't surprise me if Cristobal just tells them to hold until it's called. It never was called so they just kept right on holding.

I think all team hold a lot...

and I don't think Bama really "needs to hold", however...
11-14-2016, 07:31 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

If we get a kicker we don't lose to USA, UK or BYU. Do you agree we have three more wins right now and are sitting at 7-3 if Graves isn't our kicker this year? One competent kicker away from a totally different season right now.

We have extra scholarships, Mullen should offer a full scholarship to the top 25 rated high school kickers till one signs up.

If my aunt had balls- she'd be my uncle. It shouldnt have come down to one kick. South Alabama missed FG's also- we arent the only team that made some mistakes
11-14-2016, 07:32 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by TUSK

I think all team hold a lot...

and I don't think Bama really "needs to hold", however...

https://s21.postimg.org/z9ev3wcnb/IMG_1352.jpg

Here's hurts' td run vs lsu. Do all those blocks look clean?
11-14-2016, 07:33 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

If we get a kicker we don't lose to USA, UK or BYU. Do you agree we have three more wins right now and are sitting at 7-3 if Graves isn't our kicker this year? One competent kicker away from a totally different season right now.

We have extra scholarships, Mullen should offer a full scholarship to the top 25 rated high school kickers till one signs up.

And whose fault is it we don't have a competent kicker? The coach that consistently micromanages the hell out of special teams?
11-14-2016, 07:36 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

And whose fault is it we don't have a competent kicker? The coach that consistently micromanages the hell out of special teams?

Graves was 15/18 in fg's last season. I thought we were set at Fg kicker entering the season. Kinda hard to blame Mullen for not seeing graves' complete meltdown
11-14-2016, 07:36 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

If we win the next two, there will be no staff changes and Mullen won't be under any pressure to make them. Same thing happened in 2013.

This is a huge problem at MSU- failing to see the warning signs and then waiting until it's too late to do anything. While also at the same time our athletic administration does nothing to cause corrections to be made.

If we go 6-6 Dan can come back- but Hevesy, Sallach, and Knox need to go regardless.
11-14-2016, 07:38 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

And whose fault is it we don't have a competent kicker? The coach that consistently micromanages the hell out of special teams?

What were Graves stats last year? Sometimes good players suddenly suck and at that position you can't really fix it till the next year. If our kicker sucks next year I will say it's Mullen's fault. Can't really blame him for Graves this year though. That shit is just on Graves.
11-14-2016, 07:39 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Graves was 15/18 in fg's last season. I thought we were set at Fg kicker entering the season. Kinda hard to blame Mullen for not seeing graves' complete meltdown

He's not helping by still trotting him out there. Or us either. We have at least two other kickers. I'm absolutely fine sacrificing range for accuracy at this point. But then again Dan is always slow to make changes- ask Brandon Holloway.
11-14-2016, 07:42 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

If we go 6-6 Dan can come back- but Hevesy, Sallach, and Knox need to go regardless.

If anyone has to go or be moved it's our damn secondary coaches. Our secondary has been the WORST part of our team for 4-5 years in a row. Worse than our OL for almost a half decade straight.

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