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10-25-2016, 01:30 PM
Lumpy Chucklelips

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Jake Wimberly has being a wonderful job on twitter pointing out why this team sucks.

Folks, we have an effort & heart problem. I'm really not sure how more experience fixes this. Do these guys deserve to wear the maroon & white?

Should fans support this? I really want to believe Mullen can turn it around, but I don't know. Can you teach heart? Looks like he recruited some duds

https://twitter.com/Jakewim/status/790397105789632513

https://twitter.com/Jakewim/status/790396290429485056

https://twitter.com/Jakewim/status/790395680091213824

https://twitter.com/Jakewim/status/790394350840737792

https://twitter.com/Jakewim/status/790389737911713792

https://twitter.com/Jakewim/status/790387856191680512

https://twitter.com/Jakewim/status/790386936967987201

https://twitter.com/Jakewim/status/790385714802417664

https://twitter.com/Jakewim/status/790384046559887360

https://twitter.com/Jakewim/status/790383970848563200

I went back and looked at this a second time to distinguish who the players were that were involved in these plays. Take this however you want, but one thing that stands out to me is the youth that is involved. Two plays out of 10 involved seniors, the rest, Fr or So, with one being Graham as a jr in his first extensive role as a db. Yes, we've all heard we're young until we're all blue in the face, but again, take it as you wish....There are 16 players that were singled out; 2 Sr, 1 Jr, 7 So, 6 Fr. 13 out of 16 either Fr. or So.

Play 1 - Jamoral Graham, Jr. first full season to play cb after being on offense before.
Play 2 - Fletcher Adams, Fr; Gerri Green, So; Mark McLauren, So.
Play 3 - Keith Mixon, Fr.
Play 4 - Jamal Peters, So.
Play 5 - Ferrod Green, Fr; Michael Story, Fr.
Play 6 - Brandon Bryant, So; Jamal Peters, So; Mark McLauren, So.
Play 7 - Jamal Peters, So.
Play 8 - DeAndre Ward, Sr. Walk-on.
Play 9 - Jamal Claiborne, Sr.
Play 10- Deddrick Thomas, Fr; Keith Mixon, Fr.
10-25-2016, 06:02 PM
FISHDAWG

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

I love when Fishdawg posts- his Sig really says it all:

C-34: on NOV 30, 2015

"But if you think we overachieved this season- you are an idiot. If Mullen wins more than 6 next year- that will be overachieving".

#agenda

he was right - I was wrong ... it will stay there until the end of this miserable season ..... not sure what the #agenda means but I hate to see our players being bashed
10-25-2016, 07:34 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Ok - but how did USM rebuild so fast to be competitive? Didn't they bring in a huge amount of JUCOs and grad transfers after the 2014 season (and yes, I know SEC is different). Were they mainly skill guys or lineman? What I am getting at is that it is possible, but you have to hit on everyone and hope your young guys develop quickly.

We don't play in CUSA so the comparison is simply ridiculous.

Name an SEC school in the last 15 years that has rebuilt on the backs of Junior College players.
10-25-2016, 07:37 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

We don't play in CUSA so the comparison is simply ridiculous.

Name an SEC school in the last 15 years that has rebuilt on the backs of Junior College players.

Auburn when they won the natty with Cam Newton
10-25-2016, 07:45 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Auburn when they won the natty with Cam Newton

I said backs, not back. Lol.

That team had a lot HS talent all over the roster, but you're right if we can find a dynamic juco QB I'm all for it.
10-25-2016, 07:45 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

We don't play in CUSA so the comparison is simply ridiculous.

Name an SEC school in the last 15 years that has rebuilt on the backs of Junior College players.

I don't understand why the comparison is ridiculous. The level of JUCOs we're getting aren't CUSA level... most all are being offered by sec teams. Had usm got JUCOs that no CUSA teams wanted, the JUCOs wouldn't have worked. Out of the 11 they took, at least 6 were offered by teams in CUSA or equal conferences.
10-25-2016, 07:55 PM
msstate7

We took 6 JUCOs in '09 and only 2 worked out... the big turnaround in '10 wouldn't have been possible without those 2 (McPhee and Chris white). It was another juco in '10 class that really fueled that turnaround in Ballard
10-25-2016, 08:31 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I don't understand why the comparison is ridiculous. The level of JUCOs we're getting aren't CUSA level... most all are being offered by sec teams. Had usm got JUCOs that no CUSA teams wanted, the JUCOs wouldn't have worked. Out of the 11 they took, at least 6 were offered by teams in CUSA or equal conferences.

Some are. There are only a handful of elite juco players every year. Since we need some of these guys I see no reason to point out which ones, but let's put it like this, if juco players aren't taking official visits to a school, then usually that school doesn't really like them.

Jucos are meant to help with specific depth issues on a team, not to build a team. Jucos are helpful when you need an 8th OL that can fill in if needed. If you are relying on a juco guy to come in and start, particularly on the OL or DL, you are going to be disappointed.
10-25-2016, 08:41 PM
Dawgfan01

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I think we need to stick with Sirmon and the defensive staff. We're breaking in a new system without some of the pieces we need to run, but still #6 in sec in total defense. I think adding some nice JUCOs and the guys returning to the same system could pay dividends next season.

I want turnover on offensive staff, not defensive

That 3-4 crap is never going to work. No pressure ever and get gashed every other play in the running game.need to put pressure on the qb to help a young secondary because we can't cover
10-25-2016, 08:49 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

I said backs, not back. Lol.

That team had a lot HS talent all over the roster, but you're right if we can find a dynamic juco QB I'm all for it.

Well, it's shows that the right JUCO talent at a position of need can have a huge impact. Don't forget, Nick Fairley transferred in from Co-Lin that season before. So, no it isn't ridiculous AU would have been an 8-5 team without Cam and Nick.
10-26-2016, 02:43 AM
JohnnyQuid

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Holland.

my man

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