Cohen to AD gaining some serious steam...

This argument goes back and forth. How do you know he wouldn't be a good hire?? Mullen was never a HC before but got us to number 1. How did that happen without prior experience???

This hire will not please a lot of people unless we got one of the Top 5 ADs in the country and that isn't happening. My trust is in Keenum. I expect him to do what's in the best interest of MSU. If you think Cohen is a lazy hire you are highly overexaggerating yourself like a typical MSU fan. Would it have been lazy for Bama to replace Saban with Kirby had Saban retired?? Hell no. Quit losing our minds and calm the hell down.

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Originally Posted by shoeless joe

Yes. Which is why I said exactly that in the post.

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Haha... I completely missed that last sentence. Don't mind me... my reading comprehension sucks

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

I know it's not a popular stance but I'm intrigued by this. He's extremely smart and HIGHLY competitive. I think we need someone hard nosed that is willing to support his coaches but also willing to have a come to Jesus meeting quick when things get off the rails. As long as he is willing to let his staff handle things he can not (marketing, etc) I'm willing to learn more.

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He is plenty smart enough for the job. His take no prisoners attitude might work as AD. I don't think he would take any BS from the bearsharks.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

The only things similar to LSU and MSU are we are in the SEC.

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I don't think anyone is saying we would see similar results. However, saying Bertman was a bad AD for LSU is suspect at best. That's the point.

I guess our country is screwed, because every time we elect a new president they have never had any experience as president!!!****

If you don't think that Cohen has gained endless knowledge on how an athletic department works during his tenure here, then you are just illogical. We wouldn't even be discussing this if the people that we trust to run our university, didn't trust Cohen to run our University's athletics.

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

I don't think anyone is saying we would see similar results. However, saying Bertman was a bad AD for LSU is suspect at best. That's the point.

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It's too small of a sample size to make a true conclusion. Y'all are comparing them because of their past jobs not comparing them as people. I guess Hilary Clinton is going to be a great president because Thomas Jefferson was Secretary of State before he became president.

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

I don't think anyone is saying we would see similar results. However, saying Bertman was a bad AD for LSU is suspect at best. That's the point.

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I'm saying it's apples and oranges. It's not even a parallel comparison. The only things the same are they were and are now baseball coaches and the schools are in the SEC. The situations couldn't be anymore different.

Cohen may well become AD but as of today and last week he's telling recruits not to believe the rumors. Fwiw

Not saying Cohen would be my #1 guy, but let's not act like he is totally unqualified either. The guy has a masters in sports administration (or something similar), and has been involved in many of our coaching hires (including being one of the administrators who interviewed Mullen). He is associate AD and had more departmental responsibilities than your average baseball coach. Finally, he cares VERY much about his alma mater. He understands what coaches need to win and will do everything in his power to get it to them- at the same time he will not tolerate failure out of his coaches and is scared of no one.

We could get someone more proven but we could also do much worse. If Cohen is the guy, let's not write him off before giving him a chance.

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Originally Posted by basedog

That's just it, I don't know. You are already saying you know it's a bad thing. Geez get back to your play station game.

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But here's the thing IF we have experienced AD's that are KNOWN to be good candidates why take the chance on the unknown? And then possibly burn the baseball program in the process?

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Originally Posted by DeviousDawg

I guess our country is screwed, because every time we elect a new president they have never had any experience as president!!!****

If you don't think that Cohen has gained endless knowledge on how an athletic department works during his tenure here, then you are just illogical. We wouldn't even be discussing this if the people that we trust to run our university, didn't trust Cohen to run our University's athletics.

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There are people with Presidential experience that are options for us to elect as President in the first place? Apples and oranges.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

This argument goes back and forth. How do you know he wouldn't be a good hire?? Mullen was never a HC before but got us to number 1. How did that happen without prior experience???

This hire will not please a lot of people unless we got one of the Top 5 ADs in the country and that isn't happening. My trust is in Keenum. I expect him to do what's in the best interest of MSU. If you think Cohen is a lazy hire you are highly overexaggerating yourself like a typical MSU fan. Would it have been lazy for Bama to replace Saban with Kirby had Saban retired?? Hell no. Quit losing our minds and calm the hell down.

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I'd take an AD from the MAC

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Originally Posted by msstate7

It's funny that pretty much every one here is in agreement that keenum will make the right decision about Mullen and even hiring a HC if necessary, but the same ones don't trust keenum's judgement about the AD job.

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Hiring our baseball coach to be our AD would be about as shitty as job whoring, having a general i dont care give me my money attitude, and the same repeated ignorant and non creative personnel and playcalls every game. Can we agree? Its not that I dont think Cohen could do it, he's a state guy and he will ''think outside the box'' like some of yall say. I just dont wanna lose him as our baseball coach unless we got a hell of a coach to replace him. He'd tell Mullen to **** off in a heartbeat

Cohen is a winner and I have no doubt he would be extremely successful as our AD. That being said I want him to stay in the dugout and lead our baseball team. From what I'm hearing he wants to win a national championship before he's willing to take an AD job, but we all know things can change quickly.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

But here's the thing IF we have experienced AD's that are KNOWN to be good candidates why take the chance on the unknown? And then possibly burn the baseball program in the process?

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If the accounting department head for a company is promoted to CEO, would you expect the accounting departments performance to improve or get worse? Not only is the new CEO an expert in accounting, but also because of that he has the ability to go find one of the best accountants in the country to work under and replace him as the accounting department head.

Baseball will be fine, Cohen will not let his expertise, who he played and coached for, go to shit. If anything I would expect baseball to improve. We will get a top tier coach with Butch Thompson as our last resort, baseball will be fine.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

It's funny that pretty much every one here is in agreement that keenum will make the right decision about Mullen and even hiring a HC if necessary, but the same ones don't trust keenum's judgement about the AD job.

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I've never been all that impressed with Keenum. He's no Zacharias.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

It's funny that pretty much every one here is in agreement that keenum will make the right decision about Mullen and even hiring a HC if necessary, but the same ones don't trust keenum's judgement about the AD job.

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Preach it. Mob mentality is mental.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I'd take an AD from the MAC

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You must really not like Cohen them. He's had numerous responsibilities as an associate AD and does have an educational background. We want someone loyal to MSU that will look out for the best interest of MSU 100%. There is zero question in my mind Cohen would do that.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

There are people with Presidential experience that are options for us to elect as President in the first place? Apples and oranges.

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You missed my point Todd. We have never had a president with previous experience as president, and we are (arguably) the best country in the world. Cohen has athletic department experience, just like any presidential candidate(minus trump) has political experience.

When people say they would rather have a MAC AD then Cohen, that's like saying they would rather have the governer of Montana become president rather than the US Secretary of State. Just because you can run a state does not mean you can run a country. I'm fine with the Secretary of State, who has experience helping run a country, be the president over a small State's governor. There are good points on both sides, but to claim Cohen incompetent is premature and ignorant. I'm just passing on what I heard, not making the decision.

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Originally Posted by basedog

Have no clue why the hate on Cohen unless those folks are experts on being a qualified AD. Cohen ain't one to back down, ask O'Sullivan.

Btw, for all you hatters on Cohen saying your done with Msu, I wear XL shirts and collect bulldogs, let me know and I will give an address so you can send your "Bully stuff", I will always be a True Dawg, regardless, I've seen much worse things happening at Msu.

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I don't have any real objection to Cohen being AD, but I like what he's doing as baseball coach. Not only that, he just "looks" like a baseball man ... whatever that means. That said, as AD will he still be more interested in baseball than football and basketball? Might be hard to make that switch.