Rosebowl Say Ole Miss has A Player That Lied to NCAA

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Rosebowl compared the situation to the Redmond situation. Additionally, if this player has already played, the. OM would likely have to forfeit those games. But since the entire team is unionized, they would've had to forfeit them anyway.

At what point does the NCAA just drop this nuke? This is really starting to get stupid.

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No forfeits anymore. They'd vacate. Not an auto W for the teams that lost to them.

What's Sankey talking about?

http://www.cbssports.com/college-foo...r-conclusions/

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Originally Posted by DanDority

So what you're saying is, you want someone to tell you what you want to hear. Not necessarily what is going to happen. Just out of curiosity, how bad did the NC2A hit Miami in there latest trouble?

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You have to remember Miami case was under the prior penalty structure besides what was also mentioned, the investigations itself was compromised. They self imposed a 2 year bowl ban including the 2012 ACC championship game as well as several other self imposed penalties which the NCAA sited as part of the reason they did not hit them as hard on the loss of scholarships which was 9 over 3 years. They also received an additional 3 years probation. Without full cooperation, hard self imposed bowl bans for 2 years and a tainted investigation, Miami would have had much stronger penalties

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Originally Posted by mic

AJ Brown. I will let the cat out of the bag... That's what I have been told...

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He hasn't been up there long enough to to get the company line memorized

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

He hasn't been up there long enough to to get the company line memorized

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I figured that's what they made them memorize and recite in their freshman lit class.

These guys don't have to respond to the NCAA. They have absolutely zero subpoena power..... they could simply decline to respond. Just dumb on their part for talking at all.

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

These guys don't have to respond to the NCAA. They have absolutely zero subpoena power..... they could simply decline to respond. Just dumb on their part for talking at all.

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But aren't we glad they did?

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

These guys don't have to respond to the NCAA. They have absolutely zero subpoena power..... they could simply decline to respond. Just dumb on their part for talking at all.

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It also isn't a court of law. If the NCAA asks them something and they don't respond the NCAA can assume guilt if they want to. Ask Renardo.

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

These guys don't have to respond to the NCAA. They have absolutely zero subpoena power..... they could simply decline to respond. Just dumb on their part for talking at all.

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The talking started because Ole Miss tried to screw some of them over. See Hugh Freeze trying to blame Tunsil’s stepfather for the incident last July.

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

These guys don't have to respond to the NCAA. They have absolutely zero subpoena power..... they could simply decline to respond. Just dumb on their part for talking at all.

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Very true but also grounds for the NCAA to rule them ineligible until they decide to cooperate.

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Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg34

But aren't we glad they did?

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I’d have to say yeah.


It never gets old. Thanks Laremy.

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Originally Posted by Bass Chaser

What's Sankey talking about?

http://www.cbssports.com/college-foo...r-conclusions/

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Let me help:

"People have talked about institutional reputational harm [due to lengthy investigations]," said SEC commissioner Greg Sankey, who chairs the Division I infractions committee. "But I'm also concerned that when issues arise and we take years and years and years to get at the issues, it sets a tone for the rest of the membership that maybe they can try some things but maybe it will take some time to catch up [with penalties]."

Sounds like he's saying that lengthily investigations almost make it worth cheating to build a foundation and catch up with other teams.

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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

Let me help:

"People have talked about institutional reputational harm [due to lengthy investigations]," said SEC commissioner Greg Sankey, who chairs the Division I infractions committee. "But I'm also concerned that when issues arise and we take years and years and years to get at the issues, it sets a tone for the rest of the membership that maybe they can try some things but maybe it will take some time to catch up [with penalties]."

Sounds like he's saying that lengthily investigations almost make it worth cheating to build a foundation and catch up with other teams.

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Yeah, he's saying that, and I think he's also saying that such a protracted investigation period puts penalties so far in the future that it doesn't really matter. It's the "here and now", not 5 years down the road that seems to be important. I agree with him that there's no logical reason for taking so long.

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

These guys don't have to respond to the NCAA. They have absolutely zero subpoena power..... they could simply decline to respond. Just dumb on their part for talking at all.

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Big risk for them. If somebody else talks and they find out you didn't come clean when you were asked, they can take away your eligibility.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I'm afraid we're stuck with mr Hyde right now. Perhaps the serum will wear off and allow Dr Jekyll to come back for awhile

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Devious Dawg and Random Poster are not the same person. This I assure you

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Devious Dawg and Random Poster are not the same person. This I assure you

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...You're so vain... I bet you think this post is about you.... you're so vain...

You right. It was about you haha

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

These guys don't have to respond to the NCAA. They have absolutely zero subpoena power..... they could simply decline to respond. Just dumb on their part for talking at all.

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Define "These guys"....

If you're an athlete in the NCAA, you have to respond or you're ineligible whether guilty or not. Same for coaches.

If you're talking about step daddy tunsil or someone not directly in the NCAA purview, then you shouldn't talk bc you have nothing to gain or lose. Step daddy chose to talk bc freeze smeared his name publicly and pissed him off.

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

Big risk for them. If somebody else talks and they find out you didn't come clean when you were asked, they can take away your eligibility.

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Without a doubt..... Dumb decisions by kids who don't understand the consequences.

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

Big risk for them. If somebody else talks and they find out you didn't come clean when you were asked, they can take away your eligibility.

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I bet this came out during the immunity stuff we heard about a few weeks ago. Somebody got called out on their lie and had a suspension hanging over their head.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Here's the thing though. They really aren't yet because no one wants to cover the story or talk about it. Ole Miss has been praised this year by Bo Bounds, Sallee, Finebaum, and other national media. The instate news outlets aren't even investigating it while praising OM's WRs.

As of now, the national perception is that Ole Miss is a good program and team. What's embarrassing is that people in the know are allowing what should be an embarrassment, to become a suck off fest.

All you hear on Bo Bounds and other shows is how Freeze does things right while Mullen while Mullen does things wrong, when in fact it's just the opposite. MSU only looks like a poor recruiter because Ole Miss is cheating. Go through OM's roster and tell which of the players would be on our team if they weren't bought off. Our recruiting would've looked significantly better.

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You are so right!