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09-20-2016, 02:42 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by NCDawg

I would rather have Orgeron, anyway. He's a great recruiter, the players love him, and he would personally want to beat Ole Miss for the way they treated him.

This would be a good thing to have again in our head coach. He don't have to be a big prick about it tho ... just kick their ass every time we play them. Then be gracious in victory.
09-20-2016, 02:43 PM
Bothrops

Kiffin wouldn't come here. I wouldn't want him for 1-2 years if he did.
09-20-2016, 03:04 PM
THE Bruce Dickinson

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

What? Kiffin went 28-15 at USC while they were under extreme scholarship reductions. He was also turning Temn around. He's a dick- but he has been fairly successful

Ron Zook went 23-14 at Florida. Let's hire him too**
09-20-2016, 03:12 PM
WinningIsRelentless

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

If you notice- I haven't said I'd like him to be our HC

You called the guy a moron and then said he is a good coach. It can't be both
09-20-2016, 03:16 PM
Sacrifice

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

Ron Zook went 23-14 at Florida. Let's hire him too**

Ron Zook was awesome in Breaking Bad, playing Ted Beneke
09-20-2016, 03:28 PM
sleepy dawg

I look forward to the next 20 years of remembering when Mullen was here and the glory days... back in the days when we had half a chance at a really good season most years, but b/c we had 1 bad season after a couple of our best, we had to move on.

After Mullen leaves, I predict we will never be #1 again. We will never be in the conversation for the playoffs again. We will never win 19 games over 2 seasons again. At least not in the next 15 years or so.
09-20-2016, 03:34 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by sleepy dawg

After Mullen leaves, I predict we will never be #1 again. We will never be in the conversation for the playoffs again. We will never win 19 games over 2 seasons again. At least not in the next 15 years or so.

Mullen could stay and the same thing happen too Sleepy. I like Mullen and think he's done a fantastic job here but something is seriously wrong with him. It's been obvious for three years now. He's not giving 100% but he demands that his players do and the fans do as well. If Mullen coached and recruited with the same intensity I saw during the South Carolina game we'd be a perennial top 10 team with a top 10-12 recruiting class every year.
09-20-2016, 03:51 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by sleepy dawg

I look forward to the next 20 years of remembering when Mullen was here and the glory days... back in the days when we had half a chance at a really good season most years, but b/c we had 1 bad season after a couple of our best, we had to move on.

After Mullen leaves, I predict we will never be #1 again. We will never be in the conversation for the playoffs again. We will never win 19 games over 2 seasons again. At least not in the next 15 years or so.

This was the same thing the Ron Polk supporters told me 10 years ago about our baseball program.
09-20-2016, 04:18 PM
WinningIsRelentless

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

This was the same thing the Ron Polk supporters told me 10 years ago about our baseball program.

Coyne has more losing seasons here than Polk did. Goes both ways
09-20-2016, 04:36 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

Coyne has more losing seasons here than Polk did. Goes both ways

And two of them are from trying to clean up Polk's mess.

Our baseball program is as good or better right now than it was in the 80's.
09-20-2016, 05:00 PM
mic

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Originally Posted by sleepy dawg

I look forward to the next 20 years of remembering when Mullen was here and the glory days... back in the days when we had half a chance at a really good season most years, but b/c we had 1 bad season after a couple of our best, we had to move on.

After Mullen leaves, I predict we will never be #1 again. We will never be in the conversation for the playoffs again. We will never win 19 games over 2 seasons again. At least not in the next 15 years or so.

And after our last week at #1 our record is 11-9....
09-20-2016, 05:03 PM
PassInterference

If not for Petrino's record of applying for every job that will accept his resume, I'd take him from Louisville. He's only stayed there now because of his baggage. So I guess that's a no.

I'd give Kiffin a shot.

It might be worth looking at the AD and/or coach at Houston.
09-20-2016, 05:24 PM
mic

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Originally Posted by PassInterference

If not for Petrino's record of applying for every job that will accept his resume, I'd take him from Louisville. He's only stayed there now because of his baggage. So I guess that's a no.

I'd give Kiffin a shot.

It might be worth looking at the AD and/or coach at Houston.

Herman
Bobby P
Are both Pipe dreams unless our "new" AD works a miracle..
09-20-2016, 05:58 PM
CadaverDawg

Firing Mullen would be disastrous
09-20-2016, 06:21 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by PassInterference

If not for Petrino's record of applying for every job that will accept his resume, I'd take him from Louisville. He's only stayed there now because of his baggage. So I guess that's a no.

I'd give Kiffin a shot.

It might be worth looking at the AD and/or coach at Houston.

I think Kiffen is a good coach and he would do well here.

He sucked in the NFL? So did Saban. And many other college coaches.

He was only at Tennessee for one year and he got them to a bowl game in what amounts to a rebuilding year for them. He left them in shambles because a lot of their recruits followed him to USC. Had he stayed at Tennessee, no question they would have done well.

He took the USC job which was his dream job- which would be good for us because that would eliminate his dream school from hiring him- and he had three straight winning seasons there including a 10 win season while they were on probation. If he has a full deck of scholarships to play with, I imagine they would still be close to Pete Carroll levels of winning.

Now, he leaves USC and ends up at Alabama which to me makes him even more attractive because you know he has learned a LOT from Saban over the past three years. He has an offense that is pro style but it’s also very versatile- a lot of spread and pistol concepts and formations.

He’s also a top 10 recruiter per 247 sports and you know he would improve our recruiting quite a bit including giving us a pipeline into California football which is a largely untapped area for us. And he’s good at developing QB’s as well.
09-20-2016, 06:32 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by mic

And after our last week at #1 our record is 11-9....

Which is still a very good record for us historically speaking.
09-20-2016, 06:34 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think Kiffen is a good coach and he would do well here.

He sucked in the NFL? So did Saban. And many other college coaches.

He was only at Tennessee for one year and he got them to a bowl game in what amounts to a rebuilding year for them. He left them in shambles because a lot of their recruits followed him to USC. Had he stayed at Tennessee, no question they would have done well.

He took the USC job which was his dream job- which would be good for us because that would eliminate his dream school from hiring him- and he had three straight winning seasons there including a 10 win season while they were on probation. If he has a full deck of scholarships to play with, I imagine they would still be close to Pete Carroll levels of winning.

Now, he leaves USC and ends up at Alabama which to me makes him even more attractive because you know he has learned a LOT from Saban over the past three years. He has an offense that is pro style but it’s also very versatile- a lot of spread and pistol concepts and formations.

He’s also a top 10 recruiter per 247 sports and you know he would improve our recruiting quite a bit including giving us a pipeline into California football which is a largely untapped area for us. And he’s good at developing QB’s as well.

You obviously know very little about USC football. They have been my second team since I was about 12. We do NOT want Lane Kiffen. Ed Ogeron is a WAY better head coach. Y'all have gone stark raving nuts.
09-20-2016, 06:35 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by mic

And after our last week at #1 our record is 11-9....

Kind of an arbitrary place to start... why not since the beginning of '14 or the beginning of '15?
09-20-2016, 06:43 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think Kiffen is a good coach and he would do well here.

He sucked in the NFL? So did Saban. And many other college coaches.

He was only at Tennessee for one year and he got them to a bowl game in what amounts to a rebuilding year for them. He left them in shambles because a lot of their recruits followed him to USC. Had he stayed at Tennessee, no question they would have done well.

He took the USC job which was his dream job- which would be good for us because that would eliminate his dream school from hiring him- and he had three straight winning seasons there including a 10 win season while they were on probation. If he has a full deck of scholarships to play with, I imagine they would still be close to Pete Carroll levels of winning.

Now, he leaves USC and ends up at Alabama which to me makes him even more attractive because you know he has learned a LOT from Saban over the past three years. He has an offense that is pro style but it’s also very versatile- a lot of spread and pistol concepts and formations.

He’s also a top 10 recruiter per 247 sports and you know he would improve our recruiting quite a bit including giving us a pipeline into California football which is a largely untapped area for us. And he’s good at developing QB’s as well.

I remember the controversy over Orgeron contacting kids to not go to class at Tenn, the early enrollee's but did any of them actually leave? Ambles flipped to USC but that's it I think.

We also have to remember that Kiffin in one year at TN was on his way to creating massive violations. He couldn't do that stuff at USC while on probation.
09-20-2016, 06:50 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I remember the controversy over Orgeron contacting kids to not go to class at Tenn, the early enrollee's but did any of them actually leave? Ambles flipped to USC but that's it I think.

We also have to remember that Kiffin in one year at TN was on his way to creating massive violations. He couldn't do that stuff at USC while on probation.

The USC team when Kiffen got canned was one of the worst SC teams I had ever seen. Ogeron turned it around overnight and almost won the head job for real. Let that sink in.

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