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08-15-2016, 06:19 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Obviously the intent is to hire someone that will win. Not making a decision because someone else might not work leads to stagnation and never reaching your potential. You're operating under the assumption that Dan is the absolute best we could do and there's no truth in that.

People said the same thing about Jackie at one time. And yet he left, we were on probation AND hired an unsuccessful head coach and our program is still in good shape overall.

There are a lot of talented coaches that would be happy to come here get paid millions and put up with our "unrealistic expectations" which should be elevated to championship level after 2014. Not let's just be happy with 8 wins and the Belk Bowl.

Just like the Bears were so sure Tony Dungy or Jon Gruden would jump at the chance to come to Oxford. You know, beautiful campus and shit....

I really think the absolute worst thing that could have happened was 2014. That run has made too many people lose sight of the need to build for the long term and really establish the foundation that we have never had in football. This Mullen needs to move on/when Mullen leaves talk is just as counterproductive as the Scientologists' annual job hunt.
08-15-2016, 06:37 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Just like the Bears were so sure Tony Dungy or Jon Gruden would jump at the chance to come to Oxford. You know, beautiful campus and shit....

I really think the absolute worst thing that could have happened was 2014. That run has made too many people lose sight of the need to build for the long term and really establish the foundation that we have never had in football. This Mullen needs to move on/when Mullen leaves talk is just as counterproductive as the Scientologists' annual job hunt.

I mentioned five mid major coaches that would likely come to MSU. Hardly Tony Dungy or Jon Gruden-esque expectations as that is the most likely route we will go when Dan leaves unless there is a retread like a Sherrill interested in our job.
08-15-2016, 06:46 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I mentioned five mid major coaches that would likely come to MSU. Hardly Tony Dungy or Jon Gruden-esque expectations as that is the most likely route we will go when Dan leaves unless there is a retread like a Sherrill interested in our job.

I don't see how you can say being able to a attract a mid-major coach is a step up from hiring a 1st time coach from the P5 coordinator ranks. It's pretty much the same thing. Hell, Coach 34's Kyle Wittingham arguement was at least saying we could attract an up and coming P5 coach.
08-15-2016, 07:21 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

But every team gets SEC money and most of the larger schools have alumni bases that double or triple ours. That means they have more donations and MORE MONEY. Hell, just look at the dependencies of the recruiting budgets across the SEC.

Tulane, Houston, ACC, BYU, etc dont get SEC money. We are bringing in more than at 75% of the teams in college football because we are in the SEC. That helps our prestige outside the SEC and keeps us winning non-conference games we didnt used to win. Our facilities have come along way the last 30 years because of the growth of the SEC and SEC money. Its moved us past alot of teams that used to be ahead of us
08-15-2016, 07:21 PM
Pollodawg

Said it before, and I'll say it again: Wanting Dan gone is about the stupidest thing any State fan can want............as it stands now. We'll be able to attract so much coaching talent after we run off a coach averaging 8 wins a year at a perennial cellar dweller at the zenith of the SEC West's power.** Dan has a winning record over UK, OM, Arkansas, UT, Vandy, Mizzou, and is tied with UGA and UF, and is about to tied with Auburn. What a shitty record. SMH. Dude has kicked almost half of the conference's ass repeatedly now. A decade ago, I would have given you my left nut for this.
08-15-2016, 07:27 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

You trying to run him off has gotten old

I'm not trying to run Mullen off. Ive said 100 times you cant fire him. I'm just ok with it if he leaves. We'll be ok because Stricklin wont be allowed to Rick Ray it again.

But I'm pointing out that we did not extend his contract after he went 9-4- and we wont do it this year if he goes 6-6. 7-5 and it will be iffy. Gonna be a fun year to see what happens. I expect any and everything
08-15-2016, 07:33 PM
BiscuitEater

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Originally Posted by DanDority

I'm sorry to disappoint, but what Dak did and continues to do can't be coached it is something that MANY can't and will never be able to do sadly. He is one of a few Great leaders of men and he happens to be a good athlete. Were he in the military he'd be a General before too long. Dan has very little to do with how good he is.

And, SORRY to disappoint you .. but Mullen has also coached Alex Smith (#1 NFL draft pick), Josh Harris, Chris Leak, & Tim Tebow (Heisman winner).

Dan Mullen made 2* QB Chris Relf into a 9 game winner.
08-15-2016, 07:34 PM
Reason2succeed

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Obviously the intent is to hire someone that will win. Not making a decision because someone else might not work leads to stagnation and never reaching your potential. You're operating under the assumption that Dan is the absolute best we could do and there's no truth in that.

People said the same thing about Jackie at one time. And yet he left, we were on probation AND hired an unsuccessful head coach and our program is still in good shape overall.

There are a lot of talented coaches that would be happy to come here get paid millions and put up with our "unrealistic expectations" which should be elevated to championship level after 2014. Not let's just be happy with 8 wins and the Belk Bowl.

You do realize that 2014 was only two years ago right? No one is "just happy with 8 wins and the Belk Bowl" but putting pressure on a coach and acting like you're ready to drop him on a dime two years after he's taken you to be highest ranking that your school has EVER been is cray cray. Calm down. Be patient.

I agree if Mullen leaves it is not the end of the world but to insinuate that our administration should be shopping around for the next guy is just because we haven't beaten Bama is ridiculous.
08-15-2016, 07:36 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by Pollodawg

Said it before, and I'll say it again: Wanting Dan gone is about the stupidest thing any State fan can want............as it stands now. We'll be able to attract so much coaching talent after we run off a coach averaging 8 wins a year at a perennial cellar dweller at the zenith of the SEC West's power.** Dan has a winning record over UK, OM, Arkansas, UT, Vandy, Mizzou, and is tied with UGA and UF, and is about to tied with Auburn. What a shitty record. SMH. Dude has kicked almost half of the conference's ass repeatedly now. A decade ago, I would have given you my left nut for this.

You people simply cant read. Or cant comprehend.

NOBODY- I REPEAT NOBODY- HAS SAID ONE WORD ABOUT FIRING MULLEN.

What has been said that its ok if he chooses to leave. We will be fine. What I have also pointed out is that what EVERY FAN needs to watch for this season is how we finish. 7-5 or 6-6 finish and a 3rd straight Egg Bowl loss- we arent going to extend Mullen's contract. That puts him down to 2 years left on his deal and on the hotseat. That means in 2017 we will play Bama and LSU at home- and our toss-up games on the road. Thats typically not a schedule for success.

These next 2 years are going to be extremely interesting to see what happens. Does Mullen keep winning at least 8 games? Do we slide back to 6 or 7 wins? Could worse happen? We shall see. The West is interesting this year and next.
08-15-2016, 07:39 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by BiscuitEater

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Dan Mullen made 2* QB Chris Relf into a 9 game winner.

at a time when OM was a trainwreck and A&M wasnt in the West. That couldnt happen today.
08-15-2016, 07:50 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

I don't see how you can say being able to a attract a mid-major coach is a step up from hiring a 1st time coach from the P5 coordinator ranks. It's pretty much the same thing. Hell, Coach 34's Kyle Wittingham arguement was at least saying we could attract an up and coming P5 coach.

I think it is safer to hire a coach with head coaching experience in my opinion. If we go the coordinator route that's fine too but I think it's a little more risky. As they say experience preferred.
08-15-2016, 07:56 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Reason2succeed

You do realize that 2014 was only two years ago right? No one is "just happy with 8 wins and the Belk Bowl" but putting pressure on a coach and acting like you're ready to drop him on a dime two years after he's taken you to be highest ranking that your school has EVER been is cray cray. Calm down. Be patient.

I agree if Mullen leaves it is not the end of the world but to insinuate that our administration should be shopping around for the next guy is just because we haven't beaten Bama is ridiculous.

I haven't said we should get rid of Dan. I'm saying our expectations should be higher now and Dan should be held to that standard. Keeping your failing albatross of an o-line coach is unacceptable. Openly looking for other jobs during prime recruiting season is unacceptable. Looking like you don't give a shit and having your team unprepared for a home Egg Bowl is unacceptable.

I'm also saying that yes Dan can be replaced contrary to what you believe or want to believe. It's ridiculous to believe that we can't and it's also chicken little as Dan is average at best as a head coach. Congrats to him for being more competent than Felker and Croom though.
08-15-2016, 08:23 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

I'm not trying to run Mullen off. Ive said 100 times you cant fire him. I'm just ok with it if he leaves. We'll be ok because Stricklin wont be allowed to Rick Ray it again.

But I'm pointing out that we did not extend his contract after he went 9-4- and we wont do it this year if he goes 6-6. 7-5 and it will be iffy. Gonna be a fun year to see what happens. I expect any and everything

How could you have said it 100 times when you are such a new poster******
08-15-2016, 08:32 PM
Commercecomet24

I love what Dan has done here and hope he stays and wins a bus load of games. I do agree if he left we could hire another great coach. However, to many are discrediting Dans success as it's easier to win, it's easier to get to bowl games because of more money and the extra ooc game etc.. But my question is if it's so easy then why have only 4 of the 7 teams in the sec west and only half the teams in the whole sec been to bowl games the last 6 years like we have? I see it both ways, Dan has done a great job here and will continue to win and I believe he will only get better, however I also believe if he does leave one day that we can attract another great coach. We are in an era at State like I only used to dream of as a kid and it's only gonna get better.
08-15-2016, 08:38 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

. But my question is if it's so easy then why have only 4 of the 7 teams in the sec west and only half the teams in the whole sec been to bowl games the last 6 years like we have? .

Because our permanent opponent from the East is Kentucky. Auburn's is Georgia. LSU's is Florida. Thats been huge for us as they have slid back. This season they will be a much tougher test for us in Lexington
08-15-2016, 08:41 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Because our permanent opponent from the East is Kentucky. Auburn's is Georgia. LSU's is Florida. Thats been huge for us as they have slid back. This season they will be a much tougher test for us in Lexington

I understand that but those are teams we haven't beaten consistently in the past. Dan has changed the culture here. He's developed players and put more players in the NFL than we have ever done. He does have flaws but every coach does. I hope he stays a long time and wins a ton, but I also believe our next hire will be a great one as well.
08-15-2016, 08:49 PM
Reason2succeed

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I haven't said we should get rid of Dan. I'm saying our expectations should be higher now and Dan should be held to that standard. Keeping your failing albatross of an o-line coach is unacceptable. Openly looking for other jobs during prime recruiting season is unacceptable. Looking like you don't give a shit and having your team unprepared for a home Egg Bowl is unacceptable.

I'm also saying that yes Dan can be replaced contrary to what you believe or want to believe. It's ridiculous to believe that we can't and it's also chicken little as Dan is average at best as a head coach. Congrats to him for being more competent than Felker and Croom though.

You're calling me chicken little but your whole premise is based around us going 7-5 or 6-6 this year. Okay.***
08-15-2016, 08:50 PM
Pollodawg

I guess we will indeed see. But one particular poster on here had a huge grudge against Mullen last seaosn when things weren't peachy. And his talking points sound an awful lot like some of the talking points I'm hearing today. lol
08-15-2016, 09:14 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

I'm not trying to run Mullen off. Ive said 100 times you cant fire him. I'm just ok with it if he leaves. We'll be ok because Stricklin wont be allowed to Rick Ray it again.

But I'm pointing out that we did not extend his contract after he went 9-4- and we wont do it this year if he goes 6-6. 7-5 and it will be iffy. Gonna be a fun year to see what happens. I expect any and everything

We will win atleast 8 games this year.
08-15-2016, 09:19 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

We will win atleast 8 games this year.

then everything takes care of itself if that happens. I'm saying be prepared for the alternative

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