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04-20-2016, 07:58 AM
shannondawg

Rodney wouldn't have left if he Ben Howland as coach.
04-20-2016, 08:03 AM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Joe Strugg wouldn't like to know if he's playing here next year? All the transfers wouldn't like to know if they can sign with us? Or does everyone else prefer to put their basketball careers on hold till MN makes up his mind?

It's not Malik's problem that the draft process is what it is. He has potentially millions on the line and you want him to hurry up and make a decision so some other kid can make up their mind about where to play college basketball. You sound like the selfish one.
04-20-2016, 08:09 AM
HSVDawg

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Originally Posted by Harrydawg

He gone, Newman will not be returning to MSU. Just was not good fit.

If he gets drafted, he'll go pro. If not, he'll transfer. We'll know soon enough

Yeah, there is no way in hell he transfers. That takes him from being a one and done to a three and done (at best). He would have to sit out next year.
04-20-2016, 09:14 AM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Jarius

It's not Malik's problem that the draft process is what it is. He has potentially millions on the line and you want him to hurry up and make a decision so some other kid can make up their mind about where to play college basketball. You sound like the selfish one.

D-League pays millions now? Shit I'd put five other guys plans on hold to play in Iowa City too. My bad Newman.
04-20-2016, 09:17 AM
GTHOM

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

Because he has an elite skill. He may ore may not end up being a good all around player in the NBA, but his shooting is good enough that it seems likely that he can carve out a niche as a shooter.

He could hardly play 2 games in a row at the end of the year without cramping or being hurt, I wish he would come back because I dont wanna see him in the D league
04-20-2016, 09:22 AM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

No shit. Crazy to see people bash a MSU player that picked MSU literally over every other NCAA basketball team, performed well for a truer freshman despite injuries (even if he didn't perform up to expectations), seemed to be a good teammate despite all the hype and attention he got and despite some older players maybe having their egos bruised over it.

And not only bash him, but bash him for doing what any non-moron in his place would do. He has the opportunity to work on his game in front of scouts, get feedback, and maybe play his way into a million dollar contract, and none of it impacts his NCAA eligibility. What kind of idiot wouldn't take advantage of that.

And for all the people saying he's already made his mind to go pro, neither he nor his father is ignorant of the process and know a good agent could help him, so he would have an agent if he were dead set against coming back. He may be heavily leaning towards going pro, but I can't believe he wouldn't have an agent if coming back weren't an option.

There is no downside to what he is doing. As far as people saying he has made up his mind, maybe he has or maybe he is getting his mind set like he is going. Very successful people have the ability to set your mind on a goal and somehow make it happen. If he is healthy with the way he can shoot, he might get drafted in the first round. As much as I love MSU, I hope he does great and stays in the league for a long time.
04-20-2016, 09:57 AM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

D-League pays millions now? Shit I'd put five other guys plans on hold to play in Iowa City too. My bad Newman.

I guess you will have to forgive the guy for not just taking your word for where he is going to end up. This is a life changing decision, and he could still make hundreds of thousands of dollars in the D league if an NBA team were to draft him and set that up. It pretty much isn't any of your business.
04-20-2016, 10:22 AM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Jarius

I guess you will have to forgive the guy for not just taking your word for where he is going to end up. This is a life changing decision, and he could still make hundreds of thousands of dollars in the D league if an NBA team were to draft him and set that up. It pretty much isn't any of your business.

Hope there's still a decent grad transfer available when that time comes. I'd hate for MSU to lose out on another player that'll help us next year because we are waiting on a player that at the end of the day is going pro no matter what.
04-20-2016, 10:26 AM
YazooDawg23

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Hope there's still a decent grad transfer available when that time comes. I'd hate for MSU to lose out on another player that'll help us next year because we are waiting on a player that at the end of the day is going pro no matter what.

Do you honestly think that we are not going get a grad transfer we want because of Malik? It sounds like you have something personal against Malik. You come off in your posts as extremely unintelligent. Howland is a pro. Trust him and settle down.
04-20-2016, 10:36 AM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Hope there's still a decent grad transfer available when that time comes. I'd hate for MSU to lose out on another player that'll help us next year because we are waiting on a player that at the end of the day is going pro no matter what.

If he is going pro no matter what and someone like a casual fan like you knows that, don't you think our head coach who has been to 3 final fours knows that as well? And even if he doesn't, it's still none of your business when Malik Newman decides to make a final decision about whether or not he stays in the draft. It's his life, not yours. Whether or not State gets a grad transfer or not because of how long he takes to decide to enter the NBA is not his problem and anyone that tries to make it his problem is wrong.
04-20-2016, 11:17 AM
mic

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Originally Posted by YazooDawg23

Do you honestly think that we are not going get a grad transfer we want because of Malik? It sounds like you have something personal against Malik. You come off in your posts as extremely unintelligent. Howland is a pro. Trust him and settle down.

And the thread ends.....
04-20-2016, 11:57 AM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by YazooDawg23

Do you honestly think that we are not going get a grad transfer we want because of Malik? It sounds like you have something personal against Malik. You come off in your posts as extremely unintelligent. Howland is a pro. Trust him and settle down.

How do you know we haven't missed on a player already? We already missed on Tookie Brown whose an actual true PG last year. I don't have anything personal towards MN I am just not sure he's worth all of this when you start adding up players last year we didn't take for him and players right now we aren't taking for him.
04-20-2016, 12:05 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Jarius

If he is going pro no matter what and someone like a casual fan like you knows that, don't you think our head coach who has been to 3 final fours knows that as well? And even if he doesn't, it's still none of your business when Malik Newman decides to make a final decision about whether or not he stays in the draft. It's his life, not yours. Whether or not State gets a grad transfer or not because of how long he takes to decide to enter the NBA is not his problem and anyone that tries to make it his problem is wrong.

You're correct my problem isn't with Malik it's with Howland letting Newman's decision dictate our roster next year. He's not coming back.
04-20-2016, 12:07 PM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

D-League pays millions now? Shit I'd put five other guys plans on hold to play in Iowa City too. My bad Newman.

close to it...Jarnell Stokes gets almost 900K in D-League.
04-20-2016, 12:14 PM
BulldogBacker

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

I can promise this thread will have no effect in Newmans thought process... So all you are doing is ripping a CURRENT PLAYER.

Noone needs to explain anything to you.. No decisions have been made. Let him go through the workouts and make a decision as HE SHOULD DO.

Count me in meggaditto's this!
04-20-2016, 12:30 PM
MedDawg

They way I understood it was Howland recruited as if MN was leaving...

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

How do you know we haven't missed on a player already? We already missed on Tookie Brown whose an actual true PG last year. I don't have anything personal towards MN I am just not sure he's worth all of this when you start adding up players last year we didn't take for him and players right now we aren't taking for him.

So we aren't "holding a spot open for him" and MSU won't have missed out on any recruit if Malik leaves State. If Malik decides to stay, then we might be one over the limit and will have to process out an underperforming player/signee, which may or may not be a guard.
04-20-2016, 12:34 PM
YazooDawg23

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

How do you know we haven't missed on a player already? We already missed on Tookie Brown whose an actual true PG last year. I don't have anything personal towards MN I am just not sure he's worth all of this when you start adding up players last year we didn't take for him and players right now we aren't taking for him.

OH NO WE LOST TOOKIE!! We currently have four 4 star guards committed and it's no secret we are in the market for a PF type in the transfer market. Again, Malik's decision has no impact if we decide to take a grad-transfer PF or not. Your argument holds less water every time you type.
04-20-2016, 12:55 PM
mic

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Originally Posted by YazooDawg23

OH NO WE LOST TOOKIE!! We currently have four 4 star guards committed and it's no secret we are in the market for a PF type in the transfer market. Again, Malik's decision has no impact if we decide to take a grad-transfer PF or not. Your argument holds less water every time you type.

Again the thread should end with this......
04-20-2016, 12:56 PM
Dawg61

His decision just decides Joe Strugg's future?
04-20-2016, 01:21 PM
RocketCityDawg

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Originally Posted by mic

Again the thread should end with this......

I agree, mic, but you're dreaming if you think he will stop without getting the last word.

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