OM fans- Jeffrey Simmons say

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Originally Posted by Coach34

already done

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Good. Now sign up for anger management.

From what I've heard, Simmons is a great kid. Even something as stupid as this (it was stupid too), shouldn't ruin a kid's future esp considering this is after all a misdemeanor (a really ugly one)

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Not a single person is trashing the kid. Not one.

And that's funny, considering that if discussing the severity of a situation like this, is 'now trashing a kid', what does that make the dozen of threads (ha, jk...hundreds) that rip apart other SEC players for the "mistakes" they've made?

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To be fair, those kids are heathen, not fine, upstanding citizens like our kids**

So is this more acceptable than dropping a pass or failing to establish post presence? Because those mistakes get a lot more scrutiny around here.

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Originally Posted by SDDawg

None, but a bunch of morality warriors want to try to act tough. Never been under the microscope and never had a day of hardship in their lives. So easy to sit in the ivory tower and judge people tho...

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Yeah it is odd to me, that a woman trashes dead people, and is rewarded for it by the sheep. She meant ill will towards him. Yet he was defending his family and made a bad decision, and is dragged through the coals.

The world has taken a turn for the surreal. The PC white knights really don't have much world experience IMO.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

What went on at penn state prior to the raping of little kids that eventually led to turning a blind eye to raping little kids?

Eta: or are you equating hitting a female to raping children? I'm fine with whatever punishment Simmons gets, but let's not act like defending hitting a woman is the "exact same thing" as defending raping children.

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Years and years of that fanbase treating Paterno and the coaching staff and players like heros and defending anything and everything that might not cast the best light on them. Which in turn led to Paterno and the coaching staff attempting to save their reputation above all and for people who may have otherwise spoken up to remain silent for fear of being run out of town.

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

Yeah it is odd to me, that a woman trashes dead people, and is rewarded for it by the sheep. She meant malice towards him. Yet he was defending his family and made a bad decision, and is dragged through the coals.

The world has taken a turn for the surreal.

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What he did should have consequences, but to jump from 5 seconds of video where most people have no idea what happened to "he should be dropped and MSU should move on" doesn't make sense to me at all. There has to be a middle ground where he can learn from the mistake and move on and still have the opportunity to be at MSU, that's all I'm saying. I honestly don't know what happened but I assume that his apology was sincere and that the police don't plan to charge him so I see no reason to make this bigger than it is.

Please remember that Ole Miss has a QB that threatened to shoot people and now they praise him like he's the second coming... (excuse the reference on Holy Saturday).

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

Yeah it is odd to me, that a woman trashes dead people, and is rewarded for it by the sheep. She meant ill will towards him. Yet he was defending his family and made a bad decision, and is dragged through the coals.

The world has taken a turn for the surreal. The PC white knights really don't have much world experience IMO.

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Please show me one person who is defending her, or anyone who has given her some type of reward. This is not a good situation in any direction. But that in no way makes what Simmons did ok.

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

Yeah it is odd to me, that a woman trashes dead people, and is rewarded for it by the sheep. She meant ill will towards him. Yet he was defending his family and made a bad decision, and is dragged through the coals.

The world has taken a turn for the surreal. The PC white knights really don't have much world experience IMO.

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Goat does make a good point. People yelling "consequences" need to remember that includes both sides

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Goat does make a good point. People yelling "consequences" need to remember that includes both sides

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First, what kind of consequences would you suggest be placed on her? Second, what on earth does that have to do with Mississippi State?

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

He's not an SEC football player. He's a high school kid who's probably had shady people around for a long time. He's never been in any other trouble & he hasn't had the guidance of our coaches around him to help him. Why would we not enroll him again? Just to make a point?

Again, what does kicking him off the team accomplish? Please answer that

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Didn't we just hire one of the people who has been close to him the whole time? I think this argument doesn't hold water.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

You don't even know this kid. You have no idea where his heart is or what even happened. You want to kick him off the team just on this video?

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I am not offering up any opinion on what his future should be with us. That's up to the coaches. But, there is no mistaking what actually happened because there is video evidence of it. And it isn't good. Saying there needs to be additional investigation is silly because it's already all out there for the world to see. Whether or not I know him, what his motives or character are, or what prompted him to do this are all irrelevant as to what actually transpired.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CehfkSrXEAIhSR5.jpg:large

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Originally Posted by Coach34

While at Charleston:

We had both of our top 2 TB's get in a fight at school- the starter fought a girl. I agreed with our HC that they should be suspended for the Spring game- even though that was going to put me in a bind on offense. The Superintendent called us both in and asked us why in the hell we were going to suspend them for the Spring Game "just for fighting". I shit you not people, the Super said "Hell, the girl Eldra hit was as big as him and he only hit her twice. She admitted to starting it. Let's compromise and only sit him the 2nd half???"

Then the Super in very plain terms said we were not to sit both players the whole game. #Charleston

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I went to Charleston in the early 80s. Have some family that still live in the free state of Tallahatchie. I can see this.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

I went to Charleston in the early 80s. Have some family that still live in the free state of Tallahatchie. I can see this.

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Anybody raised in the South that was involved in athletics growing up or as an adult can see this... especially as concerns football.

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

Video conveniently picks up at the 'result', and does not show what led up to it. If a woman insulted my dead family members the results would be the same.

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I'm not hitting a woman, I don't care what she says. I'm 6'2" 225+, nothing a woman says to me gives me the right to hit her. Anyone that says otherwise is a fool.

Who hasn't had a crazy girl say something stupid/insulting/awful to us at a bar? The idea of hitting her has never crossed my mind.

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Originally Posted by smootness

First, what kind of consequences would you suggest be placed on her? Second, what on earth does that have to do with Mississippi State?

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she got hers for talking about someone's dead cousins

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Originally Posted by OurState

Didn't we just hire one of the people who has been close to him the whole time? I think this argument doesn't hold water.

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no- no we didnt

I see incidents like this about once or twice a month in Clarksdale.
C34 is right that far too often it is a culture issue....not to mention that some of us keyboard heroes might react the same way
We also have to remember that we have not yet received anywhere near the full story on this incident. JS may be taking the high road - after the fact - and taking responsibility for his actions when there could be far more to this story. I am gonna hold off judgement until more comes to light

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

I'm not hitting a woman, I don't care what she says. I'm 6'2" 225+, nothing a woman says to me gives me the right to hit her. Anyone that says otherwise is a fool.

Who hasn't had a crazy girl say something stupid/insulting/awful to us at a bar? The idea of hitting her has never crossed my mind.

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have you ever had a 6'1- 185 pound black chick attack you? I can assure you- all situations arent the same. Black people and white people around Mississippi grow up differently. Anything saying they dont is full of shit. Its different cultures

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Originally Posted by Coach34

she got hers for talking about someone's dead cousins

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No.. It doesn't work that way with women. I get what you are saying about the culture. It's possible Simmons was never taught to never hit a women under any circumstances unless your life is in danger. But you cannot say the woman deserved to be hit by a man.