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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Well where the heck is Cody Brown? Has he even had an AB? He was the best overall hitter we had last year in terms of both average and power. Where is he?

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Played 3 or 4 innings vs SDSU on Saturday.

What about pulling scholarships. From what limited knowledge I have, with the NCAA imposed limits, most of the baseball players at MSU have academic scholarships which are not revocable by Cohen.

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Originally Posted by ScottH

Played 3 or 4 innings vs SDSU on Saturday.

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Well that's good, I quit watching that one after we had the game well in hand.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Well where the heck is Cody Brown? Has he even had an AB? He was the best overall hitter we had last year in terms of both average and power. Where is he?

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Just remembered too how about Holland starting yesterday after practicing zero times in the fall and only 3 times this whole spring! Bet that went over like a turd in the punch bowl with some of the guys that have worked their asses off for the chance to play the last 7 months! That's the kind of stuff that will totally ruin a team chemistry. The whole Cody Brown and Mike Smith thing is a mystery because they have played excellent but can't even get a start against a team from south Dakota that probably has only had 3 practices all year because of the cold!

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Originally Posted by Alphadog

Granted I know next to nothing about what goes on with this team. However it seems to me that about everyone is getting a chance to play so not sure who would be complaining able it playing time. Muerlins is horrible for playing upperclassmen over more talented freshman and Cohen is horrible for cutting upperclassmen for more talented freshmen. Which way do you guys?

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You can't really compare football to baseball in terms of when to play players. In baseball, the best players are gone in 3 years regardless. If you don't have a steady stream of 3 year guys, you're going to suck. In football, 3 year guys aren't common unless you're Bama or LSU. If a guy blows you away early or if the upperclassman is clearly struggling, that's when you plug in the young guy. But in baseball, you play the young guys as quickly as possible or risk getting 2 years tops from them.

Also, anyone else smell Bear scat with this guy? I mean, "Muerlins"?

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Originally Posted by Backwoodsdawg

Just remembered too how about Holland starting yesterday after practicing zero times in the fall and only 3 times this whole spring! Bet that went over like a turd in the punch bowl with some of the guys that have worked their asses off for the chance to play the last 7 months!

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See- that doesnt bother me much. Guys that started and played pretty well last year should get 1st shot at it. If they dont produce, then next guy up. It's ridiculous Brown isnt playing- down right criminal

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Originally Posted by Coach34

See- that doesnt bother me much. Guys that started and played pretty well last year should get 1st shot at it. If they dont produce, then next guy up. It's ridiculous Brown isnt playing- down right criminal

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It doesn't bother you because your not playing and haven't worked your ass off to play! That's my point! This thread started about TEAM chemistry or lack of it. I'm just saying that hasn't sent a very popular message amongst the players

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

You can't really compare football to baseball in terms of when to play players. In baseball, the best players are gone in 3 years regardless. If you don't have a steady stream of 3 year guys, you're going to suck. In football, 3 year guys aren't common unless you're Bama or LSU. If a guy blows you away early or if the upperclassman is clearly struggling, that's when you plug in the young guy. But in baseball, you play the young guys as quickly as possible or risk getting 2 years tops from them.

Also, anyone else smell Bear scat with this guy? I mean, "Muerlins"?

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Which is exactly my point. They are talking about being upset with Reynolds getting cut but if the freshmen are better the. Cohen made the right call. Right??? Is this not the exact same thing we bitch about when talking about Mullen? He plays upperclassmen when the younger players are better.
I'm not coming mating the two sports. I'm pointing to the fact that it's a tough call for the coach to make. Do you go with the vet because he's been around and "earned" it or do you go with the talent?

Guess this is where I should get pissed about being called a bear but I'm gonna let that go. If enforcer wants to look into it then feel free.

Just stated my opinion.

The sad part about our baseball program is my kids have no idea of how we used to dominate with the big boys every year, and rule the state of MS. Might as well be history of the Whig party to them. We can't seem to keep any momentum anymore. No toughness.

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Originally Posted by dawgman

What about pulling scholarships. From what limited knowledge I have, with the NCAA imposed limits, most of the baseball players at MSU have academic scholarships which are not revocable by Cohen.

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Originally Posted by Blackout

I don't think it's that all the way. I think he thinks "this is how we have to play baseball to win in this ballpark" and tries to mold people into that when his premise is completely off base to begin with. He overthinks everything and doesn't just do what will lead to the real success.

1. Hitting coach
2. Stop meddling
3. Achieve success

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BBBBBBINGO!!!

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Originally Posted by Backwoodsdawg

It doesn't bother you because your not playing and haven't worked your ass off to play! That's my point! This thread started about TEAM chemistry or lack of it. I'm just saying that hasn't sent a very popular message amongst the players

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Even if I was playing- if the guy ahead of me had started 55 games the previous season- I would completely understand him getting 1st shot to produce

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Originally Posted by Alphadog

Which is exactly my point. They are talking about being upset with Reynolds getting cut but if the freshmen are better the. Cohen made the right call. Right???.

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Reynolds hit .300 last year- we in no way know that we have a freshman that can do that this year. So how are they better?

We don't know who is better but apparently the coaches feel the younger guys are or maybe they just felt we need to keep pitchers instead of offense. And I'm not saying that I agree with decision. I'm just saying that this appears to be the exact opposite complaint that we have of Mullen playing over young guys that we perceive to be better.
I think it comes down to potential. Does Cohen run off a freshman that he thinks has more potential or keep a veteran that may or may not have reached his ceiling. I hate that he has to make that choice at all. I know if it was my kid I would be extremely upset. I guess there is no good answer to the problem in baseball as long as the rules stay the wat they are now

For you baseball guys, is it necessary to have as many pitchers as we have on our roster? It would seem to me that this is where Reynolds spot was taken. I'm assuming the reason we have so many is tournament time? Would this be a correct assumption?

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Originally Posted by Alphadog

For you baseball guys, is it necessary to have as many pitchers as we have on our roster? It would seem to me that this is where Reynolds spot was taken. I'm assuming the reason we have so many is tournament time? Would this be a correct assumption?

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Never know who will pan out and who won't until the lights come on. Limit the risk, bring in a ton of talent, and find the guys that can lead in the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by Alphadog

Which is exactly my point. They are talking about being upset with Reynolds getting cut but if the freshmen are better the. Cohen made the right call. Right??? Is this not the exact same thing we bitch about when talking about Mullen? He plays upperclassmen when the younger players are better.
I'm not coming mating the two sports. I'm pointing to the fact that it's a tough call for the coach to make. Do you go with the vet because he's been around and "earned" it or do you go with the talent?

Guess this is where I should get pissed about being called a bear but I'm gonna let that go. If enforcer wants to look into it then feel free.

Just stated my opinion.

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The rumor I heard was Reynolds was asked to redshirt and then decided to quit because of that.

I don't understand the complaint about Holland starting a game- he didn't scrimmage a lot because of injuries.

Everyone bitched about Cohen and his meddling- and so he keeps playing the same guys for the most part- and now I see people complaining that Cody Brown didn't get to play.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Reynolds hit .300 last year- we in no way know that we have a freshman that can do that this year. So how are they better?

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There has to be more about him getting cut than meets the eye.
Cohen get be an asshole at times. I lost any respect for Cohen when he sit Heck last year during a series when his parents came from Washington state to see him play and Heck never played an inning. That was on purpose and demonstrated what type of person Cohen really is. (Now why did he do that....one will have to ask Cohen). That did it for me. I don't want that type of person having anything to do with MSU.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

The rumor I heard was Reynolds was asked to redshirt and then decided to quit because of that.

I don't understand the complaint about Holland starting a game- he didn't scrimmage a lot because of injuries.

Everyone bitched about Cohen and his meddling- and so he keeps playing the same guys for the most part- and now I see people complaining that Cody Brown didn't get to play.

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I don't think I've ever heard any complaint about Cody Brown getting playing time that I know of. Not only does the guy generally produce but he goes all out 100% all the time.