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As they say Jimmy's & Joe's beats X's & O's
yeah, but Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss etc are ALWAYS gonna have their own Jimmies and Joes. gonna take X's & O's to beat them. i would hope the last few years would have taught our fanbase that, but our fanbase is too interested in making excuses, not analyzing and improving. i guess that means we have the perfect HC for our fanbase.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgoneyall
You don't beat teams with more talent often and certainly not consistently.
So your solution is to start out recruiting Alabama and lsu?Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgoneyall
A good DL means you can call a defense. It is known**Quote:
Originally Posted by NCDawg
They looked real good against UNM and Bama ? In both games they got trucked, we are already well adept at that aspect regarding Bama and UNM.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCDawg
Wilson coached a top 25 defense here people seem to have forgotten. The best scoring D here in what is approaching 20 years. In the end, I agree he wasn't a great DC -- mainly because of the cluster 17 he created in his own position group with the Cherry starting at DT and Eulls at DE insanity. We are still living off his DL talent though. Since it's all about crootin and all...Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
And no, I wasn't looking to argue. Just that the attempted point about Collins was a really bad one. In reality -- we have fielded 5 good defenses here in 7 years -- and our fans are now singing kumbaya and assuming it's a given when it isn't.
Of course it is! (lol) But the real solution, would be the answer in HOW we'd out-recruit Bama and LSU. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
We won't unless we get Saban or urban Meyer... In other words, we won'tQuote:
Originally Posted by 32 Dive
Basically we can't out recruit Ole Miss or Auburn or Bama or LSU or A&M or Arkansas for that matter.And we shouldn't expect to, because we are Miss State.
So we need to hire a defensive genius, because he needs to take 2 and 3 star recruits and beat 5 star players.
So who are the candidates?
Nah. Just out recruit MSU.
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Originally Posted by cheewgumm
Exactly. We have people believing this shit.
It's literally not possible. All this OM hoopla -- and they haven't done it either. Nor will they. They haven't out recruited auburn or aTm yet either. Not even once yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by 32 Dive
The funny thing is -- what you believe is dumber.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacksondevildog
Since when do we not outrecruit Arkansas?Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
No one is our recruiting the big 3 in the west. And it's moronic beyond belief that its what people think is our path to future success now. All over a guy that's the 25th best recruiter in the country right now on the #1 recruiting staff. Let's give him not one -- but two -- jobs he's never done -- in the sec west -- because we are jealous of one of his protege's recruiting success at Ole Miss and the only possible solution is to imitate them as closely as possible.
One big advantage we have over Ole Miss is we dominate Mississippi in recruiting unless a player is from Oxford. Even then we hold our own in South Panola.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
All we really need to do is recruit the o-line better and maybe add in 2-3 elite out of state prospects to that and we will pass Ole Miss easily.
Now Orgeron can do that for us- might have landed Sullivan and Willie Allen for us- and maybe Thompson can as well. I'd like to get both of possible.
Thompson is probably safer of a hire when you are talking about DC and recruiter, but O has a higher upside but more risk.
Ray Lewis- LBers coachQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Ed Reed- Safeties coach
Could you imagine how nasty that D would be. Wouldn't even have to recruit you would have kids waiting in line to sign.
People feel like we need to recruit better. It's not "moronic" to want better recruiters on our coaching staff. It's perfectly logical.
We don't think we are sacrificing and X and O genius because we have seen the last 7 hires. What would make us think that if we don't hire a recruiter that we're getting the defensive genius coach?
I'm going to continue to hope we hire a great recruiter. I'll take my chances with great players and the chance of a lesser defensive X and O guy.
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Originally Posted by engie
Damn. I got dealt with.
Yeah the way they have coached at....do you honestly think bringing two guys with no experience is a good idea in the SEC? Great players. Have no clue if they even want to coach much less are capable. Much bigger chance that they would be inept vs making the defense nasty. Never mind we have some DL personnel defiences for a 3-4 defense that they have played in their entire careers at the NFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by djaymsu5