Bad cops in Oxford ??

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Just using your logic, genius.

What situations are there where getting your ass beat by a cop is justified? Is be drunk and rowdy, amidst a bunch of other drunk and rowdy people warrant enough to get beat down by a rent-o-cop on a power trip? Seriously? Is just being guilty of being stupid justification for getting sent to the hospital?

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You brought in rape genius. Until I see where somebody at random gets pulled and the shit beaten out of them by a cop I'm not gonna believe that that person didn't provoke it (meaning jerk away, mouth off, etc) in some kind of way.

We know that a situation can escalate where some asshole cop goes overboard. Those cops should go to jail in gen pop with a tag on the back that says I'm a cop. Don't put yourself in a situation where that cop is going to have to grab you. I don't know how it's so hard to understand but then again it is you I'm arguing with.

I wish I were more surprised at the people defending rent-a-cops inflicting that level of injury on a fellow citizen at a football game. The one blaming the president was especially nice.

Guys, its just an Ole Miss fan. He probably deserved a swift kick in the nuts to go along with that shiner****
I want to know what the blonde lady 3-4 seats past him was saying as she was giving him the finger wag.

No. You make it sound like this is the norm. It isn't. And most appreciate cops and don't hate them.

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Originally Posted by sleepy dawg

...yet... keep thinking it can't happen to you.

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oh, I'm gonna...

In addition to that, I'm going to be overly compliant when interacting with a man that has a badge, nightstick, taser, a gun, and a radio to call more people with badges, nightsticks, tasers, and guns...

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Originally Posted by TUSK

oh, I'm gonna...

In addition to that, I'm going to be overly compliant when interacting with a man that has a badge, nightstick, taser, a gun, and a radio to call more people with badges, nightsticks, tasers, and guns...

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Absolutely. There is another side to this story circulating the guy was resisting and spit in the cops face. That becomes assualt and more than worthy of getting a beat down.

I haven't had many encounters with law enforecment , but the few I have all went very well. It's amazing what "yes sir" "no sir" and being compliant will get you. I've always been courteous and never one time had the hell beat out of me. Never been close, actually.

Let's put it this way:

You can "yes officer, no sir, thank you officer" your way though a non-event,

...or you can become the next Youtube sensation.

999 times out of a thousand, it's entirely up to you.

Well shit Tusk and starkvegasdawg you mean you haven't had the shit beat out of you by a cop for no apparent reason? You mean when encountered by some type of law enforcement official you cooperated fully and no bodily injury happened? That's crazy talk...I guess not being a total ****ing moron can keep you from physical harm. Never would have thought that.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Well shit Tusk and starkvegasdawg you mean you haven't had the shit beat out of you by a cop for no apparent reason? You mean when encountered by some type of law enforcement official you cooperated fully and no bodily injury happened? That's crazy talk...I guess not being a total ****ing moron can keep you from physical harm. Never would have thought that.

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No, I haven't... but by God I deserved it a time or two... thanks to the particular cop(s) involved (and their tolerance), I was spared an ass whoopin'...

Most policemen I've encountered usually appreciate kindness, respect and compliance, and I'm really happy to provide them with it...

Sure seems like it would be easier that way.

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Originally Posted by AlmostPositive

Let's put it this way:

You can "yes officer, no sir, thank you officer" your way though a non-event,

...or you can become the next Youtube sensation.

999 times out of a thousand, it's entirely up to you.

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No kidding on this, had no idea this board was so Ferguson and it's a little disturbing. I thought everyone knew if others call the cops to come get you then it's time to say "yes sir" and just go.

Public drunk is much better than public drunk plus an orbital eye.

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Originally Posted by Coach

Btw... he sings gospel music

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No idea what is going on here, but someone just earned enough money to retire on. Looks like a fine boy in blue just earned himself a new career.

I read an article on reddit about the situations that law enforcement officers find themselves in are lose lose situations. Regaurdless of what happened prior to this video starting, that guy showed zero threat to the 4 officers and should not have been met with violence. At the same time, the cops could not allow someone to stay in the stands if they have been flagged, because the situation would have escalated. Lose lose situation.

I think the alternative responses have come about mostly do to a generational/social shift with mamas, daddies, and subsequently, their younguns... combined with (completely understandable) mistrust of the gov't and hyper media coverage tools in everyone's pocket...

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Originally Posted by Coach

I'm on the outside looking in. And I'm seeing it differently. It's just like the girl in the desk in SC. Everybody wanted the cop lynched. Turns out, the student would not listen to the teacher, refused to listen to the admin, and as a last resort the officer was called in. All we saw was the game down.

So again, we know little about this. We do know something happened that the police was called to the area. We do know the wife stated that something happened and ole miss fans 2 rows above blamed him. That's all we know

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I guess this is just a fundamental difference of opinion on what should be allowed. Hearing that the a young girl sitting in a school classroom where she is required to be, and not listening to the teacher and "admin" are not reasons for a cop to treat someone like a kid like a ragdoll. What world are you living in where kids (and people in general) can be treated like this for sitting somewhere they were told to go and not touching anybody or threatening anybody. I just can't fathom the mindset of justifying abuse by anyone. At least at the very basis of this conversation, I feel if I'm not being violent or threatening in any way whatsoever, I have the right as a human being to not be beat treated like a baby deer by a tiger.

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Originally Posted by Coach

Right now there are many rumors. One being he tried to get the cops gun. Another is he hit the cop and the cop hit him back. What happened before does matter. Always has, always will.

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And what about laying in jail for 4 hours with zero medical treatment given? Was this just more of the cops defending themselves?

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Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg

Absolutely. There is another side to this story circulating the guy was resisting and spit in the cops face. That becomes assualt and more than worthy of getting a beat down.

I haven't had many encounters with law enforecment , but the few I have all went very well. It's amazing what "yes sir" "no sir" and being compliant will get you. I've always been courteous and never one time had the hell beat out of me. Never been close, actually.

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I have also always complied with the cops, and probably always will even if I feel I'm not in the wrong because I don't want to be killed or turned into a freak.

You act like I'm trying to say every single cop is a deranged lunatic. I'm not. There a lot of cops out there, and like most people, most are probably normal people. However, like with any group of people there's also a lot of people that are not good people. There are many out there that will do great harm if they believed they'd get away with it and when there's a possibility of this happening y'all just assume it must be the other guys fault.

There's always going to be 2 stories to every incident no matter who's fault it was. I'm going to side with the beaten/bloodied/dead unless/until there is clear evidence that the amount of force given was required for that persons safety vs. the person that looks like nothing happened to them. The way I read it, you see the opposite.

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Originally Posted by sleepy dawg

I guess this is just a fundamental difference of opinion on what should be allowed. Hearing that the a young girl sitting in a school classroom where she is required to be, and not listening to the teacher and "admin" are not reasons for a cop to treat someone like a kid like a ragdoll. What world are you living in where kids (and people in general) can be treated like this for sitting somewhere they were told to go and not touching anybody or threatening anybody. I just can't fathom the mindset of justifying abuse by anyone. At least at the very basis of this conversation, I feel if I'm not being violent or threatening in any way whatsoever, I have the right as a human being to not be beat treated like a baby deer by a tiger.

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it's just authoritarianism. if it was logic, then by their reasoning if i'm the daddy of that girl that got abused, then i should get 5 minutes alone with that cop to teach him his lesson. but of course that's not allowed, the cop gets to "make a mistake" with no repercussions, but if you or i make a mistake, we have justified a beatdown.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

it's just authoritarianism. if it was logic, then by their reasoning if i'm the daddy of that girl that got abused, then i should get 5 minutes alone with that cop to teach him his lesson. but of course that's not allowed, the cop gets to "make a mistake" with no repercussions, but if you or i make a mistake, we have justified a beatdown.

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whoa, daddio... if you've done your job as a parent, and your "daughter" has done her "job" (being a respectful, productive member of society), this is a non starter...

however, if, as you suggest, the kid was just sittin' in a class room and "zoning out" when the Swat Team breeched the classroom door with flashbangs and preceded to whip her "completely compliant" ass, I would be in favor of reallocating entitlement money as "reparations" for her pain & suffering.

oh, and fire the cops, too.

additionally, if I had a loved one that was subject to said ass whipping, through NO FAULT of their own, I'd get that five minutes of which you spoke... regardless.

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Originally Posted by TUSK

whoa, daddio... if you've done your job as a parent, and your "daughter" has done her "job" (being a respectful, productive member of society), this is a non starter...

however, if, as you suggest, the kid was just sittin' in a class room and "zoning out" when the Swat Team breeched the classroom door with flashbangs and preceded to whip her "completely compliant" ass, I would be in favor of reallocating entitlement money as "reparations" for her pain & suffering.

oh, and fire the cops, too.

additionally, if I had a loved one that was subject to said ass whipping, through NO FAULT of their own, I'd get that five minutes of which you spoke... regardless.

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oh, so you are anti-cop?

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

oh, so you are anti-cop?

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More likely don't be a ****ing dumbass and do what you are told in school. That's what's school is for that people have forgotten. Follow the damn rules. Kinda gets back to not putting yourself in a position where you will get your ass beat by a cop. How is it so hard to understand? Don't be a jerk asshole, don't get your ass kicked.