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10-22-2015, 10:34 AM
blacklistedbully

IMO, Will was our Dak on D. I think he personally masked so much of our secondary issues that this is a HUGE, CRITICAL blow to our chances going forward.

Before this, I was thinking we have a pretty damn good shot at winning out, or losing 1 more. Now, I'm hopeful, but much more skeptical about chances in every game.

We now need one of the younger dudes to, not only step up and be SEC starter-caliber right now, but be close to the level of Will. How many guys are there that good in the entire SEC, or for that matter, the entire country?

We need another shut-down corner, or we become much more vulnerable on every play. Do we have one?
10-22-2015, 10:41 AM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

It would be really bad to pull a redshirt off of anyone at this point. I can't believe they almost burned Dedrick Thomas's last week. Thank goodness Fred Brown knew the plays.

Jiles will be fine. I think it would be a mistake to move Cleveland out there. Ignorant message boards fans have given Cleveland a hard time, but he has been pretty good at inside corner. I don't want to see Cleveland on the outside though.

9.5 times out of 10 your Nickel corner is the guy considered to be your 3rd best CB. Also the reason you saw Cleveland start in place of Calhoun. I'll be flat out shocked if Cleveland doesn't start. Jiles now be the Nickel guy and Smokey will get reps.
10-22-2015, 10:49 AM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

9.5 times out of 10 your Nickel corner is the guy considered to be your 3rd best CB. Also the reason you saw Cleveland start in place of Calhoun. I'll be flat out shocked if Cleveland doesn't start. Jiles now be the Nickel guy and Smokey will get reps.

That's all true and that's what will probably happen. But since the USM game, Jiles and Smokey have been coming in on the outside and we have left Cleveland inside. I think we are making 2 positions weaker by moving Cleveland outside instead of just one. I also think Jiles is a decent corner.
10-22-2015, 10:55 AM
HSVDawg

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Originally Posted by Bama_Dawg

You can pop an ACL without contact, plant/cut wrong. Doesn't mean it was a contact injury. Now, it probably was a contact injury, but I can't fault a guy for going 100% at practice.

This is correct. Most ACL tears are actually non-contact, regardless of whether it's an athlete or not. Either way, he's a football player, and a defensive one at that. Risk of injuries due to contact are always going to be there. You can't play two hand touch at practice for every position on the field.
10-22-2015, 11:36 AM
mstatefan91

I hate it for him. I'll never forget the game winning interception against Arkansas and the effort that Will gave every week.

Hope he gets healthy and does big things in the NFL.
10-22-2015, 11:46 AM
starkvegasdawg

May have been mentioned already but thanks a 17ing lot Bracky. Between you and an ACL he lost over half his career. At least the ACL couldn't be helped.
10-22-2015, 11:56 AM
PassInterference

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Originally Posted by mstatefan91

I hate it for him. I'll never forget the game winning interception against Arkansas and the effort that Will gave every week.

Yep. I'm going to miss seeing him tackle people. There were times a big WR would catch a bubble screen, or a big RB gets a swing pass, or something. I'd cringe as skinny, lanky Redmond came up for the tackle. But then Redmond would lay the lumber. Dude hits a lot bigger than he looks.
10-22-2015, 11:57 AM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Sounds like graham may be the man. Hopefully he's ready. He's a local kid and I really like him

I take it your from Newton County? unless by local you meant Mississippi.
10-22-2015, 11:58 AM
Brahmabull

We will miss Redmond as much in the run game as we will in pass coverage. Dude is a tackling machine
10-22-2015, 11:59 AM
PassInterference

What do you cats think about Brandon Bryant? I haven't paid attention to him in coverage. He looked good returning a pick 6.
10-22-2015, 12:09 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by PassInterference

What do you cats think about Brandon Bryant? I haven't paid attention to him in coverage. He looked good returning a pick 6.

I think he's going to make a great safety. He's not a CB.
10-22-2015, 12:19 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs

I take it your from Newton County? unless by local you meant Mississippi.

Neshoba... Pretty local haha
10-22-2015, 12:28 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Brahmabull

We will miss Redmond as much in the run game as we will in pass coverage. Dude is a tackling machine

Oh Hell yeah. Will was great at stopping some guys that hit that soft edge. Shit, now you got me really worried.
10-22-2015, 12:32 PM
Todd4State

Logically Graham should start based on performance. In Dan's head Cleveland should start.

Graham has made some mistakes here and there- but he has also made some plays. The mistakes should be expected from someone who has played CB for a few months of his football life.
10-22-2015, 12:50 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Logically Graham should start based on performance. In Dan's head Cleveland should start.

Graham has made some mistakes here and there- but he has also made some plays. The mistakes should be expected from someone who has played CB for a few months of his football life.

I know we like to debate this stuff with each other but there is no question Cleveland has preformed than Graham this year. Graham has gotten better but between the two, Cleveland is still better right now.
10-22-2015, 12:58 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I know we like to debate this stuff with each other but there is no question Cleveland has preformed than Graham this year. Graham has gotten better but between the two, Cleveland is still better right now.

Right. That's why USM abused Cleveland all game.
10-22-2015, 01:01 PM
SDDawg

That's rough. Tough senior season for Dak, not catching many breaks...
10-22-2015, 01:04 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by randyholloway

That's rough. Tough senior season for Dak, not catching many breaks...

If we win out, I think that would be a dandy season for Dak. The worst thing about it is it's as much on the coaches as it is anyone else for not putting the proper players out there.
10-22-2015, 01:06 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Right. That's why USM abused Cleveland all game.

And Graham has been abused and/or lost for half of his limited opportunities. And Redmond got abused last week as well. Don't pick and choose a play or game. You know good and well that he hasn't been abused all year. He has actually been playing pretty well for the most part. And I'm not saying he is our best cover guy but he is better than Graham right now. But Graham is right, he is going to have to step up and get better quickly. No choice.
10-22-2015, 01:19 PM
defiantdog

I know we're talking about people stepping up and others covering spots, but this is a huge blow. Redmond will be back on that knee doing drills in a few months (Dr. Dugas at the Andrews Clinic does miracles), but we're in some trouble. Teams have respected Redmond's side all year. We may see teams opening up a lot more.

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