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I know what you are saying. And for all the fundamental talk (which I love) and strategy thoughts, at some point the players need to do their job and nut up and hit the snot out of the ball. Even with sloppy fundamentals these guys have above avg hand to eye coordination and a leader will get the job done regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDawg
the decision to bunt a runner to 2nd with no outs should hinge on how good the the next batter is. If it is a Frasier or Renfrow maybe I bunt. But if it is a Guy hitting close to the Medoza Line, hell no don't bunt.Why give up an out to put runners at second if all you have is weak ass ground ball hitters who strike out 50% of the time.
I think about that sometimes. I think Polk underutilized guys like Jeffrey Rea and Joseph Hunter as far as their talents go- but it wasn't just bunting- Polk wouldn't steal bases, hit and run, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Of course part of that could have been because he was asleep in the dugout.
The bottom line is if your players do something well, it should be utilized. That's how you maximize a lineup- and why you can't always rely on large broad blankets of data to determine what you do.
I was about to ask what he was basing that on. I believe it was Mutt the Hoople that described our hitting approach under Polk as the "Cold War approach to hitting."Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
Actually, after Clark and Palmeiro came through we didn't get very many hitters into MLB that played for Polk- Jon Shave, Adam Piatt, Mitch Moreland (who Polk tried to redshirt), Craig Tatum, and just now Ed Easley. Pete Young made it as a pitcher. Tatum and Easley are basically back-up catchers- which is more about handling a pitching staff than being a great hitter.
Polk bashing lol.. Cohen's 2015 was worse than Polk ever was. Polk never had less than 9 wins in the league and that came in his last year.
Thanks to the players and recruiting class that Pat McMahon left him which he rode for about four years- and then proceed to run the program into the ground by not recruiting people like Stephen Head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty
Didn't win 50 in his last 14 seasons at MSU. Never in his career went as far as Cohen has. Polk allowed Ole Miss to be built into something we can never fully put away again. You can play make believe all you want -- but that never happens if we hire Cohen's equivalent in 2002. They never are able to recruit the players. We prevent that, the fan support never shows. And it is never built.
Wait a minute, the debate for these last posts was about developing hitters. You are switching topics to wins. That's a different subject altogether. If I am not mistaken in Cohen's first two years he eclipsed the 60 hr mark or in 2 of his first 3 years. Something like that. Polk did not have guys slugging quite as good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty
Something occurred in 2007 in Nebrasaka, can't quite put my finger on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
38 wins. "Anybody can get hot in the postseason!1!11 It's all about regular seasons!!1!1". Talk about using lightning in a bottle at your own convenience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty
Cohen has matched that trump card of yours in 4 of the last 5 years here. Try harder.
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Originally Posted by Smitty
When you have a program as good as ours was before Polk, it takes some time to completely destroy it. We had a very obvious gradual decline that eventually culminated with the 2008 season that pretty much everybody that knew anything about baseball could see coming.
Even that team in 2007 could have been built a lot better- we had a chance to get Zack Cozart but we had Bunky Kateon. The only reason we had Moreland and Easley on that team was because they promised Polk that they would withdraw from the MLB draft.
Nebrasaka?
Was that going to be the target if we'd had to drop a 3rd bomb on Japan?