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04-01-2015, 01:04 PM
Homedawg

I didn't know they had changed it to 10 on 10.........
04-01-2015, 01:17 PM
Coach34

Carolina would skull-**** this Kentucky team. It's not that good offensively- but they do play very good D. But we are talking Jordon, Perkins, and Worthy. It's laughable.
04-01-2015, 02:34 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I didn't know they had changed it to 10 on 10.........

How can you ignore Kentucky's depth? They have 10 future pros on their team (one is hurt) and they play all of them significant minutes so if you don't keep rotating players like they do your starting five will be totally gassed in the 2nd half. Kentucky wears teams down with their length, size and constant rotating of fresh bodies. Carolina would stay with Kentucky in the first half but they'd get worn down long before the game ends.
04-01-2015, 02:38 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

How can you ignore Kentucky's depth? They have 10 future pros on their team (one is hurt) and they play all of them significant minutes so if you don't keep rotating players like they do your starting five will be totally gassed in the 2nd half. Kentucky wears teams down with their length, size and constant rotating of fresh bodies. Carolina would stay with Kentucky in the first half but they'd get worn down long before the game ends.

I'm not ignoring their depth. But they have games where they struggle to score. You act as if unc didn't have good players on the bench, they did, but Jordan, worthy, Perkins and black were getting their 30 mins a game. You can have your opinion- I just don't share it. They aren't even in my conversation as greatest team in my lifetime. Not close.
04-01-2015, 02:45 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Carolina would skull-**** this Kentucky team. It's not that good offensively- but they do play very good D. But we are talking Jordon, Perkins, and Worthy. It's laughable.

10 NBA players almost all bigger than those three will wear them down. Jordan in college wasn't capable of putting up 63 points yet. He had to endure shitty seasons with the Bulls first before he became GOAT.

Everything from your generation is the best ever for you which is cool I guess but try to enjoy 2015 too.

C34 list of best ever

1. Godfather (pleassssseeee this shit is BORING, I tried to watch all of the first two and had to stop before I killed myself with boredom)
2. Jack Nicklaus (2002 Tiger Woods would double dick Nicklaus no lube)
3. Jordan's Tar Heels
4. Your HS team's you coached would beat every team ever in any sport
5. Sofia Vergara (looks like a tranny dude)

Haha C34 I'm just busting your balls so don't throw my keys on your roof
04-01-2015, 02:45 PM
msstate7

Dawg61... Hardly any all time great team is thought of at the time as being one of the all time greats. If Kentucky wins it all and several of their players have great Nba careers, people will then consider them one of the best ever
04-01-2015, 02:49 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I'm not ignoring their depth. But they have games where they struggle to score. You act as if unc didn't have good players on the bench, they did, but Jordan, worthy, Perkins and black were getting their 30 mins a game. You can have your opinion- I just don't share it. They aren't even in my conversation as greatest team in my lifetime. Not close.

Not to mention those guys were staying college longer. NC beat a Georgetown team that had Patrick Ewing for 4 years. Worthy stayed 3 years and was National POY. Sam Perkins played 4 years in college.

You can "Uncle Rico" bullshit all you want- but college basketball was better then because players stayed and developed longer. Imagine Malik Newman staying 3 years today? Imagine that Kentucky team with those guys as Jr'sand Sr's? Now then you could have a case...
04-01-2015, 02:51 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Dawg61... Hardly any all time great team is thought of at the time as being one of the all time greats. If Kentucky wins it all and several of their players have great Nba careers, people will then consider them one of the best ever

That's faulty thinking though. You're letting future NBA careers dictate interpretation of COLLEGE players/teams. Laettner, Corliss Williamson, Scotty Thurman, Jay Williams, Sam Bowie and on and on and on of GREAT college players that didn't amount to much in the NBA. Just because Jordan turned into GOAT doesn't make him GOAT while he was IN COLLEGE.
04-01-2015, 02:53 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Coach34

college basketball was better then because players stayed and developed longer.

I could not agree more and it sucks that we'll never get back to that again
04-01-2015, 02:57 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

That's faulty thinking though. You're letting future NBA careers dictate interpretation of COLLEGE players/teams. Laettner, Corliss Williamson, Scotty Thurman, Jay Williams, Sam Bowie and on and on and on of GREAT college players that didn't amount to much in the NBA. Just because Jordan turned into GOAT doesn't make him GOAT while he was IN COLLEGE.

He was the Naismith award winner- ya know, player of the year- he didn't just become a stud in the nba
04-01-2015, 03:04 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

10 NBA players almost all bigger than those three will wear them down. Jordan in college wasn't capable of putting up 63 points yet. He had to endure shitty seasons with the Bulls first before he became GOAT.

Everything from your generation is the best ever for you which is cool I guess but try to enjoy 2015 too.

C34 list of best ever

1. Godfather (pleassssseeee this shit is BORING, I tried to watch all of the first two and had to stop before I killed myself with boredom) Actually, Goodfellas and Pulp Fiction are my top 2- but the Godfather is very good.

2. Jack Nicklaus (2002 Tiger Woods would double dick Nicklaus no lube)- Tiger may have been better than Nicklaus for a short period- but Nicklaus was great longer, not to mention more great golfers with a spine competing against Jack

3. Jordan's Tar Heels- Yes, this team may have been the greatest. UNLV and Duke have a case also.

4. Your HS team's you coached would beat every team ever in any sport- only the 2004 team had it stayed together. Very young team that split up because some of the parents were idiots. Had that team stayed together, we would have gone unbeaten in 2005 (2 future SEC pitchers plus 2 others left- and we still went 28-6). But most of my teams were underdogs fighting for respect and beating more talented teams.

5. Sofia Vergara (looks like a tranny dude)- I think Sofia is awesome, but I'm a blonde addict. Give me a young Sharon Stone, Pam Anderson, Suzanne Sommers, or Farrah Fawcett as best ever.

Haha C34 I'm just busting your balls so don't throw my keys on your roof

FiFY
04-01-2015, 03:18 PM
Coach34

http://people.famouswhy.com/images/I...ia_Vergara.jpg

I know I'm getting old- but that doesnt look like a tranny
04-01-2015, 03:24 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Coach34

http://people.famouswhy.com/images/I...ia_Vergara.jpg

I know I'm getting old- but that doesnt look like a tranny

Haha pic looks ten years old must be a preop pic before she turns into Bruce Jenner**
04-01-2015, 03:37 PM
smootness

First, let's calm down on the definitive statements about Kentucky destroying anybody. They let 2015 Texas A&M take them to overtime, so no, they would not definitively stomp 82 Carolina.

Second, Jordan put up the greatest rookie season in NBA history and averaged 37/game his second full year. Let's not pretend it took him a while to become great.

And that 82 season? As a sophomore? Scored 20/game while shooting well above 50% from the field. And he was already the most athletic player in basketball history at that point. He was capable of doing whatever he wanted at that point.

His title-winning self was actually slightly worse as a pure scorer than he was earlier in his career. He was ridiculous in college.
04-01-2015, 03:58 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by smootness

And that 82 season? As a sophomore? Scored 20/game while shooting well above 50% from the field. And he was already the most athletic player in basketball history at that point. He was capable of doing whatever he wanted at that point.

His title-winning self was actually slightly worse as a pure scorer than he was earlier in his career. He was ridiculous in college.

Wrong year. I'm talking about the 81-82 UNC team with Jordan as a freshman when he made the game winning shot. That year he averaged 13.5 points a game. Look at the height of that UNC team. No way could they hang down low with Townes & Co.

Height Year Home Town
Lynwood Robinson 4 Guard 6–1 Freshman Mt. Olive, NC
Jimmy Black 21 Guard 6–3 Senior Bronx, NY
Buzz Peterson 22 Guard 6–3 Freshman Asheville, NC
Michael Jordan 23 Guard/Forward 6–6 Freshman Wilmington, NC
Jim Braddock 24 Guard 6–2 Junior Chattanooga, TN
John Brownlee 32 Forward/Center 6–10 Freshman Fort Worth, TX
Sam Perkins 41 Center/Forward 6–9 Sophomore Latham, NY
Jeb Barlow 43 Forward 6–7 Senior Fuquay-Varina, NC
Matt Doherty 44 Forward 6–7 Sophomore East Meadow, NY
Chris Brust 45 Center/Forward 6–9 Senior Babylon, NY
Cecil Exum 50 Forward 6–6 Sophomore Dudley, NC
Timo Makkonen 51 Center 6–11 Sophomore Lahti, Finland
James Worthy 52 Forward 6–8 Junior Gastonia, NC
Warren Martin 54 Center 6–11
04-01-2015, 04:22 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by smootness

First, let's calm down on the definitive statements about Kentucky destroying anybody. They let 2015 Texas A&M take them to overtime, so no, they would not definitively stomp 82 Carolina.

Second, Jordan put up the greatest rookie season in NBA history and averaged 37/game his second full year. Let's not pretend it took him a while to become great.

And that 82 season? As a sophomore? Scored 20/game while shooting well above 50% from the field. And he was already the most athletic player in basketball history at that point. He was capable of doing whatever he wanted at that point.

His title-winning self was actually slightly worse as a pure scorer than he was earlier in his career. He was ridiculous in college.

Not saying who would win that matchup, but I'll bet that team wasn't nearly as highly thought of then as it is now. Knowing the players worthy and Jordan became probably makes that unc team look much better in hindsight
04-01-2015, 04:28 PM
msstate7

Unc won their tourney games by 2, 5, 10, 5, and 1. They won the championship, but I figure the GOAT would cruise a little more thru the tourney
04-01-2015, 04:28 PM
It_Could_Happen

I know I'm late but in my opinion the best college team ever is 90' UNLV with Greg Anthony and Larry Johnson. They won the title game by 30.
04-01-2015, 04:32 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by It_Could_Happen

I know I'm late but in my opinion the best college team ever is 90' UNLV with Greg Anthony and Larry Johnson. They won the title game by 30.

91 UNLV would of beaten 90 UNLV so they don't get GOAT but I agree with you that the 91 team is in the top 5
04-01-2015, 04:47 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Unc won their tourney games by 2, 5, 10, 5, and 1. They won the championship, but I figure the GOAT would cruise a little more thru the tourney

There was no shot clock. Games were way more deliberate. Therefore, scoring margins were less. And the field was 48 teams and as stated before college hoops was a way better product.

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