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Adjustedstats say(adjusted for competition) Auburn is the best overall running team in the SEC...Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
#1 Adjusted yards per game
#2 Adjusted yards per carry(Georgia)
#1 Adjusted total rushing per game(sacks not counted against you)
#2 Adjusted total rushing per carry(Georgia)
http://www.adjustedstats.com/ratings...offrushadj.php
An argument can be made for MSU, Bama, Arky, and Georgia, sure... with LSU rising...
Auburn will score 24 and dominate. Ive thought this all year. Bama could hav run on them (and did when they tried) but Kiffin choked and started throwing it for some reason. I knew the bears would beat aTm because of matchup.
Auburn is very physical.
The whole thread is based on a flawed premise -- so it is what it's about.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
They may not -- but it's not because they can't. They can actually throw the ball -- something LSU couldn't. Everyone in the stadium knew it was coming and OM still couldn't stop it.Quote:
Bottom line. Auburn isn't going to run 12 straight times between the tackles, so it will not be a comparable test for OM.
Ok.Quote:
Still may work, but AU's run game isn't as smash mouth IMO. If you disagree, great...don't care. You always do.
Where did I call anyone a "tard"? I said this premise is retarded -- because it is.Quote:
Now, do any of you normal posters want to continue a normal discussion that doesn't include calling people "tards" if they disagree with you? I'm all ears if so
Check back in when OM "shuts down the finesse Auburn offense" on Saturday...
I just think Auburn will outscore them.
Who has the
Better OL? LSU or AUB?
I don't think Ole Miss
Can bank on stopping Marshall because they had success against BAMA. Sims wasn't doing the same stuff
Then and Kiffins went brain dead in that one. Yeldwn was probably thinking "Heisman moment" that night until they stopped running him.
Think I saw Auburn had 170-190 yards between the tackles. They make you defend the whole field (east-west, and down the field with Coates/Duke), but I don't think that makes them any less smashmouth. They're very physical, but Roc Thomas and CAP aren't on a Tre Mason level of physicality yet.
And if Auburn finds success between the tackles against Ole Miss, Gus Malzahn is absolutely the coach who is going to keep doing that over and over and over.
What a tool. I never said "OM will shut down the finesse Auburn offense", but hey, why use facts when you can just be typical engine and throw quotes around a lie and claim it as part of your argument, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
Why can't you just be a normal person and discuss things without having to try and claim dominance by picking out a word here or there and changing the entire thread? And then putting words in my mouth? Jesus man, your message board God complex is crammed full of douche.
I disagree with tons of threads and posts on this board daily, like many others....yet somehow we all manage to either ignore or simply disagree with those that we don't agree with and move on or discuss our differing opinions. I never feel like I have to 1) Prove that I am 100% right and anybody that opposes me is 100% wrong, or 2) Try to discredit and tell whoever I disagree with that they are an idiot and tard strong because they disagree with me on a sports message board. But then again, I'm not telling you anything that every poster on here and SP hasn't told you before I guess.
Well, obviously I look at smashmouth differently than others, and everyone including the God of message boards, has corrected me. Basically, I know Auburn is physical and have never said otherwise....I just think they do a lot more outside running than your LSU's, Bama's, etc that I consider typical smashmouth programs that wear you out between the tackles for 4 quarters. If they're smashmouth in everybody's eyes, fine, I can live with that because regardless of what you call it, Ole miss will be able to utilize their speed on defense more against Auburn than they were able to against LSU, because LSU ran straight at them for 4 quarters and AU will not. That was my point....before the thread destroyer came in and changed the whole thread to a debate of whether they are considered "smashmouth". That isn't what the point of this thread was. So I agree about the whole field...which is why OM will be able to use their speed more, because AU won't run right at OM, downhill, between the tackles, for 4 quarters.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluelightstar
That's the thing though -- if that's having success (running right ahead at Ole Miss), Gus will figure out a way to do exactly that for four quarters. He is usually a guy who does a tremendous job of hammering away with what's working, and right when you start to adjust, he calls a hell of a play to take advantage. I could be wrong, but I don't see Ole Miss winning this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
I admit when I think" smash mouth" I think more of what LSU does than what Auburn does.
It seems like LSU runs it a lot more... Just from qty standpoint, though I have no idea if that is fact.
Also it seems more about their line blowing your d line off the ball... Straight ahead.
I still think Auburn is physical. I think they are the best ur 2bd best team.... Period.
AUB. 31
OMU. 17
Totally agree about running right at them, and that's the determining factor. IF, and that's a big IF, Auburn sticks with it, I think they can and will win. But I worry that Malzahn will want to get cute and keep trying to run wide or throw the ball, and that will play right Into OM strengths. Basically, if they will pound the middle and call safe pass plays, I think they can win. Will they do that though? Avoiding turnovers and making OM drive the field will be huge too. If they do what you're saying though, I agree they can be effective. But will they?Quote:
Originally Posted by bluelightstar
I totally 100% agree with this. This^ is all I was trying to say in regards to the different running styles.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
Even though prewitt and RN are playing, I think their injury issues are huge. Auburn, whether they're physical or not, is gonna run the ball. Bc of this prewitt will have to tackle. RN will have an olineman pushing him all night. Gus is going to nut check those 2 early and often to see how healthy they are
ULL ran for over 200 on OM with a zone read type of running game
LSU very well may have beaten OM twice last weekend. It will be interesting to see what kind of swagger OM comes out of the tunnel with Saturday. If Auburn comes out and scores early, and we see OM's same shaky offense that we've seen lately....it may get ugly for OM, and very enjoyable for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Agree. Auburn is a physical team that also can run with finesse. They can pound you or slip around you. they also have a QB that's a much a threat to run as any QB in the nation. Jennings is/was not a threat to run and LSU said "Here Comes the Run" and OM couldn't stop it. Plus AU has a decent passing threat, whereas LSU does not. Auburn has more misdirection/option type runs than LSU and is still physical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
OM's 1st string defense (more around 8 guys) is stout, but beyond that they are pedestrian. They are banged up. The depth issues will show this week as I predicted they would earlier in the year.
True, as did Boise (ran for 200+ I think). Will be interesting to see what happens. I just hope Auburn doesn't play into their hands by trying to throw it around early. If they run it early and often and get out to a lead, OM may implode. I'd love to see Hugh release Bo while playing from behind all game.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I agree. Good summaryQuote:
Originally Posted by RougeDawg
Better listen to cadaver. He knows of what he speaks. Auburn has a lot of get to the edge run plays. That's the wrong approach against tsun. They have a small and fast defense. How do you beat a team that has more speed than you? You run right the **** at it just like lsu did. And when those fast midgets meet the rb in the whole you break their ****ing ankles just like lsu did.
I think a fast start is crucial for OM. I don't think theyre a very confident team right now. Their offense has been sucking for awhile now and their defense just got physically whipped. I agree that a fast auburn start could open the floodgates.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Gonna be the coldest game of the year coming off om's most physical game of the year. OM is beat up on defense. This will be om's 5th straight sec game with no bye... I think om's defense will be a step slower than normalQuote:
Originally Posted by MaroonState