Bruce Pearl to auburn

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03-18-2014, 11:55 AM
C222

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

Ok for you Ray apologists and haters. There's one reason this hire isn't good for us. You have a University who's willing to and blatantly play the game in the face of the NCAA hiring a coach who is also willing to play the game. This does not bode well for our prospects of beating them anytime soon, unless Ray can find at least a couple diamonds in the rough.

I agree with this. Pearl is a homerun hire.
03-18-2014, 12:02 PM
HailState39110

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Originally Posted by TrueMaroon

The point is that SC and Auburn, who were well behind Mississippi State in pecking order of the SEC two years ago, were able to go and hire Pearl with an Elite 8, two Sweet 16's, and a SEC Championship, and Frank Martin, who has been to an Elite 8 and brought Kansas State out of the ashes in the shadows of Kansas-a top 3 program.

They are great coaches with LEGITIMATE resumes. Trying to compare Rick Ray's resume to Martin's and Pearl's resumes is like comparing two Neurosurgeons to a freaking Nurse's assistant.

Auburn and SC lured SUCCESSFUL coaches to their programs. What did we do? We hired a nobody.

Great points and if you can't tell Martin is VERY close to turning it around at SC . They only lose 1 player off their roster this year
03-18-2014, 12:10 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by TrueMaroon

The point is that SC and Auburn, who were well behind Mississippi State in pecking order of the SEC two years ago, were able to go and hire Pearl with an Elite 8, two Sweet 16's, and a SEC Championship, and Frank Martin, who has been to an Elite 8 and brought Kansas State out of the ashes in the shadows of Kansas-a top 3 program.

They are great coaches with LEGITIMATE resumes. Trying to compare Rick Ray's resume to Martin's and Pearl's resumes is like comparing two Neurosurgeons to a freaking Nurse's assistant.

Auburn and SC lured SUCCESSFUL coaches to their programs. What did we do? We hired a nobody.

They were well behind Mississippi State in the pecking order, but we were asking a coach to come into a worse situation. And if Pearl were not still under NCAA scrutiny, Auburn's hire would look a lot worse.

We may have screwed up royally with the coaching search and hire, but it's not really fair to point to the Auburn hire unless there was a proven coach I'm not aware of that was months away from coming off a show-cause when we were looking.
03-18-2014, 12:13 PM
bulldawg28

Kids will want to play for Pearl recruiting won't be hard for him. Auburn wins all the way around with this hire.
03-18-2014, 12:14 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by TrueMaroon

The point is that SC and Auburn, who were well behind Mississippi State in pecking order of the SEC two years ago, were able to go and hire Pearl with an Elite 8, two Sweet 16's, and a SEC Championship, and Frank Martin, who has been to an Elite 8 and brought Kansas State out of the ashes in the shadows of Kansas-a top 3 program.

They are great coaches with LEGITIMATE resumes. Trying to compare Rick Ray's resume to Martin's and Pearl's resumes is like comparing two Neurosurgeons to a freaking Nurse's assistant.

Auburn and SC lured SUCCESSFUL coaches to their programs. What did we do? We hired a nobody.

Stricklin & Keenum turning back the clocks to 1984. Don't wanna spend any money while they building a new foosball stadium.
03-18-2014, 12:17 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

They were well behind Mississippi State in the pecking order, but we were asking a coach to come into a worse situation. And if Pearl were not still under NCAA scrutiny, Auburn's hire would look a lot worse.

We may have screwed up royally with the coaching search and hire, but it's not really fair to point to the Auburn hire unless there was a proven coach I'm not aware of that was months away from coming off a show-cause when we were looking.

We could of just hired Bruce Pearl a month ago. Like I said fifty times. Keep not listening though. Guess we need our heads fully ripped off our bodies before we realize we are getting slaughtered.
03-18-2014, 12:19 PM
C222

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

We could of just hired Bruce Pearl a month ago. Like I said fifty times. Keep not listening though. Guess we need our heads fully ripped off our bodies before we realize we are getting slaughtered.

So we couldn't get Steve Prohm, Bryce Drew, or even Rob Jeter, but Bruce Pearl would have said yes?
03-18-2014, 12:25 PM
TheRef

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

We could of just hired Bruce Pearl a month ago. Like I said fifty times. Keep not listening though. Guess we need our heads fully ripped off our bodies before we realize we are getting slaughtered.

You seriously believe that Bracky would have signed off on us hiring Pearl? Bahahahaha. Bracky would've killed it at inception.
03-18-2014, 12:28 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by C222

So we couldn't get Steve Prohm, Bryce Drew, or even Rob Jeter, but Bruce Pearl would have said yes?

Yea a month ago broham not two years ago. Try to keep up.
03-18-2014, 12:29 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by TheRef

You seriously believe that Bracky would have signed off on us hiring Pearl? Bahahahaha. Bracky would've killed it at inception.

THATS THE PROBLEM!! Keenum, Stricklin, Bracky the whole lot of them are still sitting in 1984.
03-18-2014, 12:32 PM
C222

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Yea a month ago broham not two years ago. Try to keep up.

Yeah, because so much has changed from two years ago.
03-18-2014, 12:33 PM
dawgs

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Originally Posted by C222

So we couldn't get Steve Prohm, Bryce Drew, or even Rob Jeter, but Bruce Pearl would have said yes?

we couldn't get them because stricklin ****ed up the hiring search, not because we were such a terrible program they turned us down. stricklin ****ed it up, plain and simple. i hope to god he's learned from his mistakes in that coaching search and won't make them again next time.
03-18-2014, 12:44 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Yea a month ago broham not two years ago. Try to keep up.

You can bet Jacobs and Pearl were talking at least a month ago. He didnt call him up the other day and they worked it out this quick.
03-18-2014, 12:46 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by dawgs

we couldn't get them because stricklin ****ed up the hiring search, not because we were such a terrible program they turned us down. stricklin ****ed it up, plain and simple. i hope to god he's learned from his mistakes in that coaching search and won't make them again next time.

I'll say this and always wondered- since we were having the problems we were in luring a coach because of the situation- why did we not step up and throw some money out there? Money talks and if it means paying 2.2 or so for the right guy then you do it.
03-18-2014, 12:52 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Coach34

You can bet Jacobs and Pearl were talking at least a month ago. He didnt call him up the other day and they worked it out this quick.

So it's cool for Auburn's AD to be kicking the shit out of SS? Just clarifying what our expectations are for our Athletic Director. Is SS job to turn our basketball program into the 1984 church league team with less fans? He's succeeded. But all is well cause we just put up dis fancy sign dat lights up all night long on da foosball stadium.
03-18-2014, 12:53 PM
shannondawg

The dire situation that keeps get mentioned , wasn't near as dire, until after Rick Ray came on to the scene, lost recruits, ran off or lost players...We had the making of a fairly good team, if everything had stayed in place. Certainly not the cluster **** we got now.......
03-18-2014, 12:53 PM
TexasDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I'll say this and always wondered- since we were having the problems we were in luring a coach because of the situation- why did we not step up and throw some money out there? Money talks and if it means paying 2.2 or so for the right guy then you do it.

If Ray doesn't work out and with the extra revenue we will be receiving from the SEC Network, there is no reason we shouldn't throw out big time money for a proven coach.
03-18-2014, 12:53 PM
HailState39110

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I'll say this and always wondered- since we were having the problems we were in luring a coach because of the situation- why did we not step up and throw some money out there? Money talks and if it means paying 2.2 or so for the right guy then you do it.

Completely agree with this. Guys like White and Tyndall are making 500k in conference USA. They would walk to Starkville for 2M

There are a few small schools shedding out big bucks for coaches ( VCU, Wichita St) but a lot of them are not. Jacobs can obviously sell himself and the program. Stricklin obviously cannot. I'm gonna shit a brick if Scott ever has to hire a football coach
03-18-2014, 12:59 PM
engie

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Originally Posted by shannondawg

The dire situation that keeps get mentioned , wasn't near as dire, until after Rick Ray came on to the scene, lost recruits, ran off or lost players...We had the making of a fairly good team, if everything had stayed in place. Certainly not the cluster **** we got now.......

LOL. "Makings of a fairly good team" = 1 returning starter(who was most likely leaving anyway) -- and one bench player that got meaningful minutes. Yeah -- that was the "makings of a good team"...

Good to know you support drug abuse and lack of player accountability though... It makes the rest of your stance quite clear...
03-18-2014, 01:02 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by shannondawg

The dire situation that keeps get mentioned , wasn't near as dire, until after Rick Ray came on to the scene, lost recruits, ran off or lost players...We had the making of a fairly good team, if everything had stayed in place. Certainly not the cluster **** we got now.......

Ray was brought in to clean up the mess- it was known before time he was going to run off a few because of the drug problems. This was a surprise to nobody

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