I know how folks feel here about Minshew but check this out

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Originally Posted by whosyourdawgy

I don't know it all about anything or anyone. I don't know it all about Gardner Minshew. But I do know why he went to Birmingham instead of Hattiesburg. I do know what his dad said about your walk on comment. K. It ain't happening. And I am not going to argue with you either. I want what is best for Minshew. I would love to have him at MSU and would love to see him be a great qb for us in about 3 years after Dak is gone. But he is not a read option qb and will not be running the ball except on very few occasions or when the pass is not there and he runs. So that means he is not a fit for Dan's system right now. Whether Dan would do anything to change his approach for a qb like Gardner is the question, and the answer is probably not. So, unless there is something that Dan and Johnson see over this next high school football season that they will change for him, Minshew will probably not be wearing maroon. I hate it because qb's with his potential don't come up in MS very often.

Oh, and I typically love your insight and analysis on recruiting about things I have no knowledge of. But your insight on this one is just not correct. You are actually one of the main posters that I will stop and read what's said. Love what you do on the Rant and typically agree with you way more than I disagree. Just as a fyi

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Like I said. K. I'm not trying to argue with you about it -- I simply know more about this than what his dad is saying in public -- and the fact that you keep taking the same position about it is perplexing to say the least. No one with a lick of sense that is trying to get recruited or has ever played the recruiting game are going to even CONSIDER PUBLICLY the possibility of walking on somewhere -- especially not a year in advance. That lowers their likelihood of actually being given a scholarship, even when they are good enough. "Why pay for something you can get for free"? That's not how the recruiting game works. That doesn't mean something entirely different isn't being discussed behind closed doors(because it is).

Fact - Minshew is a lifelong Bulldog fan -- from a multi-generational lifelong bulldog family that comes to countless football games every year of ours. We are his dream school.
Fact - Brandon is an MSU feeder school. Always basically has been. Rankin County overall is an MSU stronghold.
Fact - At least 2 former teammates of Minshew's are going to be Dawgs.
Fact - MSU "costs" him the same amount of money out of pocket as a walk-on or scholarship player. No difference. And he has a chance to earn a football scholarship like Beckwith, Cherry, etc have done. We've got a long history of awarding deserving walk-ons scholarships.

So, knowing all this, are you taking an athletic scholarship to play at podunk U in front of 20,000 with NO ONE that you previously knew or were associated with -- or are you chasing your dream to play in front of 60k plus at your dream school?

When you've got the academics to cover the money side of things -- these decisions aren't NEARLY as black and white as they are in other circumstances. The term "football scholarship" becomes trivial and meaningless.

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

Who was the last great pro style QB to come up in MS? His name was Tyler Russell and that debate is over.

I hope the kid does great things, just not against MSU. Mullen was forced to take Russell as his QB signee, despite the fact that he fit Mullen's offense about as well as Tyson Lee. Mullen doesn't have to take QB's due to in state pressure.

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Speaking of Tyler, is he planning on working out for any teams in hopes of getting a free agent shot? Is he healthy enough to give it a shot? Would love to see the kid have an opportunity. Still think he could have developed into an incredible college QB in the right system...

I didn't know you could have too many private messages so you couldn't receive one. Engie, clean some out so I can send you one.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Minshew may be a backup until he's a Sr at state with Staley in front of him, but to say he can't run the ball is ignorant. it's like suggesting Bret Favre couldn't throw the ball because he ran the wing-T in high school.

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Agreed. Watch the video. Stats can be misleading sometimes.

Ya'll do know that Brett played HS ball in the 1980's when it was rare any HS program threw more than 10 passes in a game in Mississippi right? That's not a real good example. Shit, Troy Aikman went to Oklahoma to run the Wishbone because he could run a little bit in HS- major college football is a different level. If you arent good enough to be used as a runner on the HS level- because that is a huge weapon in HS- you wont be a runner in the SEC.

Ya'll sound like everybody that told me Russell was a serviceable runner in HS and how he ran for 1st downs vs South Panola.

Russell was a serviceable runner in high school. he won the 5A state championship in over time with a TD run. Seems "servicable" to me. But, just like Minshew, what you do in high school doesn't always translate to what you'll be in college.

Suggesting that he can't run is no different than Favre or Aikman (thanks for that one too. good example). It's no different than Jimmy Graham or Antonio Gates. It's simply a question of athleticism. When he's throwing for 25 TDs and 5 INTs, completing 60% of his passes, and averaging 9 yards per attempt... you throw the ball more.

Also, his run to pass ratio is about 10 to 1 his Jr year. Taysom Hill, of BYU fame, has a 9 to 1 ratio. And comparing sophomore seasons between the two, Minshew had 1 more carry than Hill. Guess Hill can't run either...