Yet you thought he was a total moron in year 2 and were ready to go another direction -- exactly as you currently are. Quit with the revisionist history...Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthMsDawg
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Yet you thought he was a total moron in year 2 and were ready to go another direction -- exactly as you currently are. Quit with the revisionist history...Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthMsDawg
Unlike Ray, Cohen proved he could beat the elite teams in our conference. LSU, Florida, South Carolina
When Ray beats somebody not named Auburn, Ole Miss, Georgia, or South Carolina let me know.
there's also a damn good argument about it being easier to turn around basketball than baseball just due to sheer numbers and being able to put your best player in a position to make the most impact. you can't bat your best player in baseball more than once every 9 ABs and you can't start your best SP more than every 5th day (once a week in college) and you can't pitch your best RP more than 1-2 innings a game, and even then, he'll probably need a few games off here and there. so to me, building a baseball team is going to be a longer, more arduous process than building a basketball team.
I don't understand why people are getting fed up, I can sort of understand why people aren't giving him the benefit of the doubt. Ray inherited a shitty situation. He was either going to have to be god's gift to coaching or get really lucky in recruiting for us to be good this year. He was neither. I'd be much happier if he were, but I'm not fed up with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
As far as not giving him the benefit of the doubt, chances are, Ray's not going to be particularly successful, because most SEC basketball hires are not going to be particularly successful. Not sure why that is, but basically the only recent good hires have been Calipari, I guess Pearl if you count him, and Donovan if you consider him recent.
But basically the only thing that Ray has shown to concern me is not getting better, immediate help. If he was a coach that had been recruiting in this area for several years, I'd be very bothered by this. But since he hasn't, I don't think we can know anything yet. I think maybe that supports an argument that we made a mistake hiring a coach without any existing recruiting ins in our area, but I don't think we'll know whether he can cut it as a recruiter for another couple of years.
If you can get blue chip talent, yes. If you are not and you are starting from scratch, basketball is more like baseball. It takes a few years to bring in enough talent to fill out a team and to give them enough experience to be competitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
Any total rebuild is going to take awhile- regardless of sport.
Baseball was a total rebuild- and it took until the 3rd season to start seeing results
Basketball has been a total rebuild- as only 1 player has remained from Stands team.
Football was not a total rebuild. Croom left Mullen some real talent in certain areas- but holes in others. Plus Mullen and his crew walked into a damn good recruiting class that they solidified when hired. Crooms problem were more about coaching and failure to recruit at the QB and WR positions.
Fans dont have patience- they see immediate results in different situations and expect theirs to be the same way. All rebuilds are not the same
Overlooked this, no one really knows the Hood story but a lot of people did know as soon as Stansbury was gone the wrong hire was gonna make it real hard for him to stay. I don't blame him for leaving a program with an unknown coach and one quoted as saying "We want Hood to command double teams." What potential lottery pick wants to hear they are gonna basically be a decoy for the next year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
That is not what it means to 'command double teams.' If you are commanding double teams, the offense is generally going to be run through you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raytoraid83
Hood was never coming back. He's at DUKE. I will not be surprised one bit when he gets drafted he buys his momma a house and never steps foot back in Mississippi again.
What do you expect when you hire some Coach, that his claim to fame, was he was an asst Coach on a shitty Clemson team that went something like 22-29 in His years there. Coach and His apostles can keep bashing Stansbury and pumping up Ray, but when the Hump is empty and the Losses keep piling Up, Ray will go down like the Titanic.
they see you rollin'.......you hatin'.........
Hatin',taking that ass whipping every game .Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat Holder
It's posts like this that make it impossible for me to take you seriously. You're being no fairer to Ray than Coach is to Stans.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
What did I say that you disagree with?Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Ndoye came in at 6-11 216 and really, really needed some S&C work; Daniels joined at 6-8, 205 and needed some bulk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
What have they done? How have they improved?
We need some work; you may some improvement in the O but I see a team that can't get position, set a screen or block out on O or D. The only reason we get a few O rebounds is that we get more chances at 'misses' than most teams.
FTF has gained nearly 20 lbs since arriving on campus. Ware has lost at least 25 pounds...I'm sure N'Doye and Daniels are getting what they need as well. S&C is no longer a players decision as it was under Stands- but a requirement. No more days of players like Marckell Patterson, Renardo Sidney, or Rayvern Johnson telling the Strength coach he isnt working out. Our HC wouldnt say "get your fatass back in that weightroom and do what he tells you" like he should have done with Sidney. He instead begged him to do P90X with him to get him to do something. You wont be seeing that shit ever again.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiscuitEater
Fred gained twenty pounds and lost His jump-shot. please go get another Patterson and Ravern, they could not pump iron but they could shoot that ****ing basketballQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Not sure why but Ray hasn't extended an offer to Troutman yet. Even after his visit. Are we in play for some other shooters?Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
i never remember patterson being an character problem and he was a key player on stans' 2nd best team (01-02).
New Hampshire might look better to HIm****Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61