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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Kiffin is making OM look like chumps. They hate this shit. This is not endearing him to the fans. Carter and Boyce have met everything he wanted to stay. He could have been the talk of the college football world Friday thru Saturday if he announced he was staying. He is not staying. He would be an absolute fool to turn down what LSU is offering him. And I am not just talking about the money. They are guaranteeing an NIL pool that would make LSU a national juggernaut of a program.

He is doing OM a favor by staying until next weekend. He beats us goes 11-1 and even if he leaves the committee will still allow OM in the playoffs with maybe a lesser seed but they are in the playoffs. I am not the only one saying this either. There have been a few SEC/LSU podcasters today saying the same thing.

And the word is there is a lot of animosity in Oxford right now that is bordering on toxic.

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Yeah, going back to OM basically makes LK unhirable for big programs in the future, and his own fanbase will hold a grudge.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

That's not accurate, we were already negotiating around the $6 MIL per year number for a new contract for Dan, which is what he got at Florida and would have received for TN. We were willingly to go even higher but it wasn't about money for Dan with us, he was ready to move on to a bigger program.

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This. We could have offered him 8 million and built Hevesy a mall and told them they wouldn't have to recruit again and he still wouldn't have come back.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Kiffin is making OM look like chumps. They hate this shit. This is not endearing him to the fans. Carter and Boyce have met everything he wanted to stay. He could have been the talk of the college football world Friday thru Saturday if he announced he was staying. He is not staying. He would be an absolute fool to turn down what LSU is offering him. And I am not just talking about the money. They are guaranteeing an NIL pool that would make LSU a national juggernaut of a program.

He is doing OM a favor by staying until next weekend. He beats us goes 11-1 and even if he leaves the committee will still allow OM in the playoffs with maybe a lesser seed but they are in the playoffs. I am not the only one saying this either. There have been a few SEC/LSU podcasters today saying the same thing.

And the word is there is a lot of animosity in Oxford right now that is bordering on toxic.

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I think Judkins leaving a couple of years ago was a factor because I have heard rumors about LK being tired of losing players at Ole Miss.

And let's be fair here- with Judkins they probably beat Kentucky at the very least and maybe LSU.

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

This. I?ve been calling it all along. This wasn?t some big strategy though. They almost lost him but ponied up to what he wanted to stay (unlike State did with Mullen). Once the contract was in place it?s just wait until after the EB to announce it. They win and it?s the final nail in the State football programs already partially buried coffin. They lose, and the announcement of him staying overshadows the loss and they still get into the playoffs. This is what a competent athletic administration and marketing program looks like.

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If Lane stays, and he's not, he is an idiot. The Bluebloods are gearing up with $$$$. They are not going to allow what they have been to be trashed by Ole Miss. They will out spend and use program prestige to beat them on talent alone. Ole Miss does not offer the program prestige nor the amount of money that will be needed over the next few years to keep up with those programs.

When that happens, Lane Kiffin will no longer win these close games. His value drops, and he will be stuck in that situation. He knows full well what he is looking at. The money to recruit and the program prestige to not lose a recruit on $$$ alone.

Kiffin is gone.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

That's not accurate, we were already negotiating around the $6 MIL per year number for a new contract for Dan, which is what he got at Florida and would have received for TN. We were willingly to go even higher but it wasn't about money for Dan with us, he was ready to move on to a bigger program.

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I don't know how any State fan doesn't know that. It was common knowledge that we were matching or beating Florida offer. Dan would have been making at least $6 million per year at State, in 2018!!! That's 8 years ago. Imagine what he would be making today if he had stayed.

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Originally Posted by MoreCowbell

Lane is not leaving. Book it. Also, I hate Pat Mcafee now

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It would make 0 sense to put out that statement if he is staying. You risk fully distracting both players and fans before the Egg Bowl for no reason if that is the case.

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

I don't know how any State fan doesn't know that. It was common knowledge that we were matching or beating Florida offer. Dan would have been making at least $6 million per year at State, in 2018!!! That's 8 years ago. Imagine what he would be making today if he had stayed.

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I have noticed that there is a LOT of MSU fans that have their own head canon of how things with Dan were in their head that simply weren't or aren't true.

MSU not countering Florida and Tennessee is one of those things.

Dan simply does not, never did, and never will feel about MSU the way that some of our fans wish he did. He literally left, barely said good bye and then tried to poach our players and recruits to Florida.

And this theory that Dan will somehow "see what he had at MSU and how good it was" and come back is also laughable.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I have noticed that there is a LOT of MSU fans that have their own head canon of how things with Dan were in their head that simply weren't or aren't true.

MSU not countering Florida and Tennessee is one of those things.

Dan simply does not, never did, and never will feel about MSU the way that some of our fans wish he did. He literally left, barely said good bye and then tried to poach our players and recruits to Florida.

And this theory that Dan will somehow "see what he had at MSU and how good it was" and come back is also laughable.

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The last point - it was weird seeing him come back for the UMass game on his bye week last year in the studio. I think he has done some reflection.

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Originally Posted by Tater

The last point - it was weird seeing him come back for the UMass game on his bye week last year in the studio. I think he has done some reflection.

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I actually think he has too. I think he’s probably fond of MSU in hindsight. Not saying he wants to come back. Two different things. I wouldn’t blame him for not wanting to spoil the memories.

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Originally Posted by Tater

The last point - it was weird seeing him come back for the UMass game on his bye week last year in the studio. I think he has done some reflection.

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Maybe he has done some reflection but Dan is Dan. And a leopard never changes his spots. I suspect if he came back again he would probably be looking to leave again and use us as a springboard to somewhere else.

He has been at UNLV for less than a year and he has already put his name out there for other jobs like Arkansas and he is already on his second DC.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Maybe he has done some reflection but Dan is Dan. And a leopard never changes his spots. I suspect if he came back again he would probably be looking to leave again and use us as a springboard to somewhere else.

He has been at UNLV for less than a year and he has already put his name out there for other jobs like Arkansas and he is already on his second DC.

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Well - his first DC really is a mulligan. I mean who could have expected THAT.

And I'm not saying he's fully changed over - but I am saying I think he's a bit different and knows his lane a little more. He knows he could have stayed at State and been a legend for life. If he tried to seriously come back, I don't think he would use us to springboard. It will be telling this cycle - he's got real upward mobility opportunity. But what role is he looking for. If he doesn't change then it speaks volumes.

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Originally Posted by Tater

Well - his first DC really is a mulligan. I mean who could have expected THAT.

And I'm not saying he's fully changed over - but I am saying I think he's a bit different and knows his lane a little more. He knows he could have stayed at State and been a legend for life. If he tried to seriously come back, I don't think he would use us to springboard. It will be telling this cycle - he's got real upward mobility opportunity. But what role is he looking for. If he doesn't change then it speaks volumes.

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The Wendy's rumor with Arnett wasn't true. Dan and Arnett didn't get along. Which isn't a complete surprise to me.

The reality is the college football world doesn't think nearly as highly of Dan as MSU fans do. Which is why he isn't seriously being considered for any jobs this cycle despite being 9-2. Now, that might change but I doubt it.

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Originally Posted by smootness

It would make 0 sense to put out that statement if he is staying. You risk fully distracting both players and fans before the Egg Bowl for no reason if that is the case.

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Not to mention recruits

I'm gonna say this. Prominant OM boosters aren't happy because they have had a $13.2M/yr extension on his desk for a month with no response. That's a fact.

This hurts their self image.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I'm gonna say this. Prominant OM boosters aren't happy because they have had a $13.2M/yr extension on his desk for a month with no response. That's a fact.

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I mean that's not even the same money as either Florida or LSU are offering so.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I'm gonna say this. Prominant OM boosters aren't happy because they have had a $13.2M/yr extension on his desk for a month with no response. That's a fact.

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I talked to a diehard OM guy who has been involved with athletics there for a very long time. He is so disgusted and pissed off with Kiffin, he was talking under his breathe about how bad of a situation and he wants him gone now. Me and another friend were shocked at what he was saying in about 2 minutes and walking away.

Funny thing is he could stay for a chance to win on playoff game, break Vault's win record at ole miss, and bolt out the door.
Or ..... we win and keep him from even tying it

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Originally Posted by Brobi-wan

I actually think he has too. I think he?s probably fond of MSU in hindsight. Not saying he wants to come back. Two different things. I wouldn?t blame him for not wanting to spoil the memories.

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Yep it is obvious he has reflected on how poor things turned out for him leaving. Also the highlight of his career was probably as HC at MSU even if he won't openly admit it he knows its true.

I don't think he comes back and nor should he. He burned his opportunity at MSU and it was a good one.

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Originally Posted by Santiago

Funny thing is he could stay for a chance to win on playoff game, break Vault's win record at ole miss, and bolt out the door.
Or ..... we win and keep him from even tying it

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I watched that presser. When they told Kiffin that you could see he didn't know he was 2 wins from breaking that record. If he is allowed to he would coach 2 more games hoping to win just to break the record and bolt. He wants his name etched in history.

We can ruin that. It would be great.