Sunday Morning QB with SVS-Setbacks Are Inevitable in This League Edition

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

Gadget Qb--bullshit. He can do everything Shapen can do only better. Dude sometimes you say stupid shit.

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LMAO!!!!!!
One day he most likely will be better than Shapen. He is being "protected" right now.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

If he was the better QB then he'd be playing. Some of you act like Lebby is purposely sabotaging his team for a kid he has no history with. If this was Dillon Gabriel or Jackson Arnold then it might hold some merit. It doesn't. Kamario just isn't ready. I know that's tough for some of you to understand but I guess the truth is tough to comprehend when it doesn't fit the narrative that Lebby hates Kamario and is sabotaging the team to play Shapen. I mean this is the same stupid ass argument I heard 9 years ago when Mullen stuck with Fitz over Dam Williams. They called Mullen a racist, said Fitz couldn't start for anyone else, said Mullen was holding the team back because Williams was better, etc.

Kamario is a gadget QB right now. Doesn't mean he will be one next year. You know who else was a gadget QB their Freshman year? Tim Tebow. He turned out pretty good and I think it was pretty obvious then that Tebow was the far better athlete than Chris Leak. But you know who the coaches trusted to run the offense? Chris Leak. It's the same damn thing here. We have packages for Kamario, hell we saw one Saturday night but he messed up the cadence. You know why he messed it up? Because he's a Freshman in a 100K seat stadium having to make pre snap reads like never before. Kamario will be fine. He'll probably be the QB next year. But right now, Blake Shapen the best chance to win. Hell half of you were saying how poised Shapen was a month ago. Nothing changed except his O-Line got a hell of a lot worse.

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It's impossible for some fans to understand this.
It's like playing cards with my brothers kids!!!

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Originally Posted by parabrave

Jackie always gave the backup one series usually in the 3rd qtr.

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Sherrill actually played the backup QB every 3rd possession. And sometimes it absolutely sucked. Lol
It was great experience for the backup QB though.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

If he was the better QB then he'd be playing. Some of you act like Lebby is purposely sabotaging his team for a kid he has no history with. If this was Dillon Gabriel or Jackson Arnold then it might hold some merit. It doesn't. Kamario just isn't ready. I know that's tough for some of you to understand but I guess the truth is tough to comprehend when it doesn't fit the narrative that Lebby hates Kamario and is sabotaging the team to play Shapen. I mean this is the same stupid ass argument I heard 9 years ago when Mullen stuck with Fitz over Dam Williams. They called Mullen a racist, said Fitz couldn't start for anyone else, said Mullen was holding the team back because Williams was better, etc.

Kamario is a gadget QB right now. Doesn't mean he will be one next year. You know who else was a gadget QB their Freshman year? Tim Tebow. He turned out pretty good and I think it was pretty obvious then that Tebow was the far better athlete than Chris Leak. But you know who the coaches trusted to run the offense? Chris Leak. It's the same damn thing here. We have packages for Kamario, hell we saw one Saturday night but he messed up the cadence. You know why he messed it up? Because he's a Freshman in a 100K seat stadium having to make pre snap reads like never before. Kamario will be fine. He'll probably be the QB next year. But right now, Blake Shapen the best chance to win. Hell half of you were saying how poised Shapen was a month ago. Nothing changed except his O-Line got a hell of a lot worse.

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justifing your stupid comments-nice try. remember not starting Dak, Fitz, Relf--when they got a chance they never looked back. Shapen ain't it. wake up.

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

justifing your stupid comments-nice try. remember not starting Dak, Fitz, Relf--when they got a chance they never looked back. Shapen ain't it. wake up.

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All three of those QB's redshirted by the way. Kamario hasn't. If those played as true freshmen they would look like Kamario does now. Relf would have probably had fans wondering why we offered. He was vey inaccurate.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

All three of those QB's redshirted by the way. Kamario hasn't. If those played as true freshmen they would look like Kamario does now. Relf would have probably had fans wondering why we offered. He was vey inaccurate.

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good point. Im shocked people dont realize this. Fitz- one of the best 25 SEC QB's of all-time- played like 10 plays total his first 2 years in college football

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

All three of those QB's redshirted by the way. Kamario hasn't. If those played as true freshmen they would look like Kamario does now. Relf would have probably had fans wondering why we offered. He was vey inaccurate.

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He'll, relf had no business being on the field as a rs fr. Only reason he was is bc we had NO other choice.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

good point. Im shocked people dont realize this. Fitz- one of the best 25 SEC QB's of all-time- played like 10 plays total his first 2 years in college football

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Tc gonna believe what he wants to. Not sure why people think Lebby wants to lose. Maybe he's at practice or something stupid like that. Smh.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

All three of those QB's redshirted by the way. Kamario hasn't. If those played as true freshmen they would look like Kamario does now. Relf would have probably had fans wondering why we offered. He was vey inaccurate.

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What has KT looked like?

Only throw 3 passes, but completed 2 of them...
67% comp 46 tds (15.3 per att) 1 td 0 int
305.47 passer rating

10 rushes 79 yards 7.9 per

I realize the passing was vs Alcon st, so not saying he'd do this vs sec teams. Just don't understand the "they would look like kamario does now" statement.

Kamario moved the chains vs Tenn on what should've been a loss. He hasn't looked bad at all.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

good point. Im shocked people dont realize this. Fitz- one of the best 25 SEC QB's of all-time- played like 10 plays total his first 2 years in college football

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Coach.....Fitz ran all over and through and passed over and under for the most dominant DOG qb performance against the Reverend’s last game at velvet ditch that was my last live college game. It was a thing of beauty.....and I will always be thankful for his effort. I also think it is a travesty that Spears wasn’t banned for “ankle forearming” fitz and then the backup the next year....

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

All three of those QB's redshirted by the way. Kamario hasn't. If those played as true freshmen they would look like Kamario does now. Relf would have probably had fans wondering why we offered. He was vey inaccurate.

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Relf had people saying that in Year 2. Lest we forget one of the great Jack Cristil quotes from the 08 Egg Bowl, "Chris Relf can throw it long. He cannot throw it accurately but he can throw it long."

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Originally Posted by 1eyedog

Coach.....Fitz ran all over and through and passed over and under for the most dominant DOG qb performance against the Reverend’s last game at velvet ditch that was my last live college game. It was a thing of beauty.....and I will always be thankful for his effort. I also think it is a travesty that Spears wasn’t banned for “ankle forearming” fitz and then the backup the next year....

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That was also Year 3 for Nick. People forget that Nick was RS in 14 and then didn't play in 15 except for mop up duty and the Troy game where Dak had food poisoning.

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Originally Posted by 1eyedog

Coach.....Fitz ran all over and through and passed over and under for the most dominant DOG qb performance against the Reverend?s last game at velvet ditch that was my last live college game. It was a thing of beauty.....and I will always be thankful for his effort. I also think it is a travesty that Spears wasn?t banned for ?ankle forearming? fitz and then the backup the next year....

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That was a hell of a performance though. So fun being in Oxford that day because I fully expected we were going to get beat by 40

55 - 20

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

That was a hell of a performance though. So fun being in Oxford that day because I fully expected we were going to get beat by 40

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Maybe most dominant individual and team performance in egg bowl all time. Fitz just ripped a hole in rebs that day. I would have put 11 men on the line and made him throw it to a wide open WR by half. Hard to comprehend how much Fitz destroyed them.

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

Maybe most dominant individual and team performance in egg bowl all time. Fitz just ripped a hole in rebs that day. I would have put 11 men on the line and made him throw it to a wide open WR by half. Hard to comprehend how much Fitz destroyed them.

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The 4th and 1 conversion broke them. Because after that we just stepped on their throats. Had we needed to score 70 that night we could have and I know for a fact Dan gave real thought to gunning for 60. When Dan was locked in for the Egg Bowl, which was rare unfortunately, he could coach circles around whoever Ole Miss had on the sidelines.

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And don't forget Tom Allen was no longer helping Wommack with the defense. Their defense went down several notches after Tom left.

'16 was the end of the Freeze Era at OM. I really don't think they minded letting him go the next year.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

That was also Year 3 for Nick. People forget that Nick was RS in 14 and then didn't play in 15 except for mop up duty and the Troy game where Dak had food poisoning.

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The incredible part about Fitz that most people don't really realize is that between his SR year in HS and becoming a full-time starter for us he had thrown less then 100 passes. He would only throw 6-7 passes a game at Richmond Hill. He really learned how to play QB sitting on the bench for 2 years at an SEC school.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

What has KT looked like?

Only throw 3 passes, but completed 2 of them...
67% comp 46 tds (15.3 per att) 1 td 0 int
305.47 passer rating

10 rushes 79 yards 7.9 per

I realize the passing was vs Alcon st, so not saying he'd do this vs sec teams. Just don't understand the "they would look like kamario does now" statement.

Kamario moved the chains vs Tenn on what should've been a loss. He hasn't looked bad at all.

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One of those two was on a gadget play against Alcorn. It wasn't even a traditional read. All it was is our guy was way faster than the Alcorn guy and was wide open- which would have applied to any of our receivers on our roster. We ran the same play against Tennessee and he ran the ball.