Article, linked at the lake, summarizes 2 good points about Mullen and our fans......

I tend to agree with both sides of the arguement. From a historical perspective, there has always been something a little off about MSU football (hell, MSU athletics in general) I mean, just that nano-second from having a sack to a 50 yd TD (on D), The 30 yd run on 3rd down that gets called back for a non-existent hold (never mind the other team is throwing our guys to the ground on every play), etc. There are tons of potential now (much more than any time I can remember) for our team to do well. Like someone said before, we don't know what goes on behind the scenes, so what may look like one thing, could be another. I also had been losing confidence in CDM, due to the strange decisons (in our eyes) on plays, personnel, etc. We can blame him all we want, but ultimately it's up to the actual players to get it done. I mean little things we don't really see, like a block or missed assignment, receiver makes a wrong cut, or his shoe was a little loose.. millions of variables. So what happens next year, if all of a sudden Dak and Jrob start looking like TR and Perk? Who do you blame then? Same play that scored a TD the last game or two... is a lineman coninually missing a block or is his bruised thigh keeping him from performing at 100%? Going forward, I plan to support the tean and the coaches and players just the same as I have for the past nearly 50 years, except I will still shake my head and yell and scream about goofy shit that doesn't make sense, but all the while knowing it could be something else going on (thanks Nickoe for the lesson)

CDM may not be the true answer, but thank God he's not Rockey Felker...

who's the last MSU coach that had a winning record?

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

who's the last MSU coach that had a winning record?

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People wanna say Jackie, but Jackie was 75-75 to end his tenure here. I would have to say Allen McKeen (sp?)or DKR.

Oh look, everybody, Goat is using a big word in a sad effort to prove he isn't as ignorant as many of us suspect.

Truth Goat, did you have to look up the word, "narcissistic" before you used it here? I'm guessing you don't really understand the definition, as it just doesn't fit your usage, unless you associate anyone who differs in opinion to you being "narcissistic", which would, ironically make you narcissistic.

As for my viewpoint, I've made it clear, but unlike you, don't insult, ridicule, or harbor resentment for those who disagree with me. Again, doesn't fit with your "narcissistic" comment.

Though there are plenty of other posters who agree with you on Mullen, I doubt there are many at all who agree with you on the point I was actually criticizing, your use of insults, ridicule, etc in a failed attempt to "shout down" those who differ from you. That's what makes you a clown, not your opinion on Mullen.

You've countered all my points?? You really think so?? That's funny.

As far as me being sensitive, you keep looking for lame insults. It just makes you look more, well, lame. I come on here, not to be an "internet cowboy", but because I enjoy keeping up with MSU sports and engaging in interesting conversations with fellow fans. I pretty much left SPS for this place because of all the Black Bear bozos and jackasses like you taking over the place and making it overwhelming tedious.

I truly believe guys like you just get your jollies joining sites like this just so you can stir-the-pot and take pot-shots at members, perhaps in an effort to overcome some self-dislike. That's often the case with people like you who lead with loud-mouth insults instead of courteous responses. It's Psych 101, the need to try and bring others down so you won't feel as crappy about your own situation.

whoa whoa whoa... let's avoid hurtful slander like "internet cowboy." that's just taking things too far.***

Cease - freaking fire!!!.. you two get a room

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

Oh look, everybody, Goat is using a big word in a sad effort to prove he isn't as ignorant as many of us suspect.

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Trying to recruit others to fight your battle for you? Probably a good idea.

You're done.

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Originally Posted by Barking 13

Cease - freaking fire!!!.. you two get a room

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzpd0Yl44ZEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzpd0Yl44ZE

This thread suuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. How do we get it off the first page?

I will have to go back and look but I think it was either aTm or Bama ...... we went for two on the first score to try to go ahead by one and missed (and it was very early in the game) ... then on the next score we went for one when we were two points down and would have tied if we made it ... just a few examples, there are too many to remember in one conversation

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I will have to go back and look but I think it was either aTm or Bama ...... we went for two on the first score to try to go ahead by one and missed (and it was very early in the game) ... then on the next score we went for one when we were two points down and would have tied if we made it ... just a few examples, there are too many to remember in one conversation

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Auburn. Mullen went for two because.....well because Auburn did it.

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Auburn. Mullen went for two because.....well because Auburn did it.

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Ok, yeah, you're right.

I can't disagree much, but I'm ok with the calls. The first one was to try to stay within 3 (you're right that it was because Auburn did it, but at some point if they keep scoring you have to try to keep pace). The second one, it was still before the half, and you definitely don't want to miss it again. I usually want teams to always play for the tie because you never know what will happen the rest of the game, but the fact that we'd already missed one makes me understand why they didn't.

Interesting decisions, but I don't see them as awful.

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Trying to recruit others to fight your battle for you? Probably a good idea.

You're done.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L6KGuTr9TI

I'll say this ...... right now beginning with the bowl game - in my mind Mullen wiped the slate clean by making it to a bowl game somehow winning the last two games without a 1st or 2nd deep QB ...... now he starts all over again with a clean board and can write his own biography with his own players .... if nothing else, I do have the capacity for objective reasoning

I just wish our own people ( I assume Maroon MAG IS PRO STATE***) would facts straight before posting crappy untrue material that makes us look worse than we already do. You want a five year window of success in Starkville? Try doing a little research. Who wrote this BS article?

Beginning in 1939, our team went 40-10-2 and 2 Orange Bowls and our only SEC Championship over the next 5 seasons. It was 1939-1942 and 1944 (no team in '43). Try 80%. Why omit this? Because no team in 1943? Fine, so we'll go 1938-1942. Oops, that makes it... 38-11-2. My mistake*** Golly we sucked over those five years*** I understand the point the author is trying to make, but why leave this out? Since the inception of Bulldog football? Is he really trying to get that technical like because the mascot wasn't official yet then the years don't count because it doesn't make his point well. When you start skewing fact is when a media person loses me. He is trying to make a point but either conveniently or ignorantly leaves out a window of around a decade when football in Starkville was not only relevant but dominant and at least regionally recognized as such in the southeast.

Why doesn't the author use this era to further illustrate his point? It all came crashing down like this. Allyn Mckeen went into the 1948 season 61-15-2 as our coach, had a "dismal" 4-4-1 record, including a 34-7 Egg Bowl loss. So "logically" we fired him, sending him and his sh!tty 65-19-3 record packing... and "Bulldog Football" has NEVER really recovered, especially because this era when we were headed for a dynasty seems to be forgotten. You all notice how the Bears always say our "best coach" was JWS and he was only .500 with a forfeit. One of the reasons people make untrue blanket statements like this because people post/write unfactual material. The comments about Jackie don't get under my skin 'cause he didn't have a winning record (because it was still a fun ride) but because the statement isn't remotely true. We had a legend coach but apparently alot of our own don't even know it.

RANT over I guess. I just hate when our people forget our greatest era when we may well have been on our way to being one of the southern powers ti come outa the 50s. We fired this guy who never had a losing record. Sure, canning a successful coach makes perfect sense***