Head coaches and coordinators.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
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Head coaches and coordinators.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
We literally do. If you can't see that, sit this one out because you don't understand football.Quote:
Originally Posted by MBDawg601
If you want to go by the recruiting rankings that Leach did, go look at 21, 22, and 23. I assume it's also Lebby's fault that Leach's recruits all either sucked and left the team before he got here, or transferred out when Leach passed and we made the laziest hire in the history of CFB.
We've seen examples that seem to suggest, even though we have the money to compete, Starkville just is not a relevant destination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
We have the same talent level as Arkansas and more than likely better talent than Vanderbilt. They are not 2 and 10 and have not gotten ran out of Fayetteville or Nashville by Toledo.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Sure it's Lebby's first year, but he did a shit job.. and that IS his fault. He can control that. We have better talent than 4 teams on our schedule without a doubt and equal talent to 1 or 2 more.
5-6 wins was the expectation, with 4 being the floor and he wasn't even close.
Starkville is pretty much the same as any other college town. Auburn and Tuscaloosa aren't exactly meccas of partying.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Not with our scheduleQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
His final grade was a 17. He flunked with flying colors. Worse than any Croom coached team by a mile. Major ****up hiring him. Overall F-!
This CAN happen IF we make the right decisions. Even where we are at this point- if we do a 3-4 year rebuild it's because we did it wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Honestly, I think it goes back to the old days when MSU had administrators that wouldn't stand up to the NCAA when we were being investigated. So instead of playing the game paying players was strongly discouraged because the program was getting hit hard by probation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
I think the portal and NIL are good for MSU. Look at the parity in the SEC this year. Georgia Tech was a team that was getting blown out by Georgia just a year or two ago and now look at them. There is no Nick Saban monster coach in the SEC anymore basically meaning that IF we get our act together we can have a chance against anyone- similar to the SEC of the 1990's where we pretty much beat everyone at a respectable clip except for LSU and even then we beat them twice in the 1990's. The other thing is the portal allow us you to rebuild fairly quickly. You can flip a roster in an offseason. And sure the first season may be a complete dumpster fire like we had but Vanderbilt became a 6-6+ team by raiding New Mexico State. If they can do that I'm sure we could do the same or something similar.
Could you imagine our 2015 team if there was the portal culture? We could have easily replaced Josh Robinson with some other RB and built a decent defense. That season could have been completely different with the portal. The portal probably would have helped Hevesy's recruiting failures as well.
Partying is only a subset of the conversation. And this is a national spectrum now with NIL and the portal, not just the SEC map.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
We should win our four OOC games. We almost beat Arizona State and had them on the ropes until Hutzler inexplicably decided to go back to what wasn't working. I imagine we have a better chance of beating them in Starkville.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
We could very easily catch up to Mizzou and Arkansas with a good portal haul even though those are on the road. As we saw today the Egg Bowl is unpredictable. There is always the possibility of upsetting someone as well.
Just need to see what we get in the portal.
Football is literally the only sport that has trouble recruiting. Basketball and baseball don't. And neither do the women's sports.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
And they are raising the prices on the boxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Now you are asking the right questionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Ding ding dingQuote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Tuscaloosa is on a different planet and Auburn is far ahead of Starkville. Fair or not Starkville has a stigma around it that is hard to shake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
There is just A LOT going against us right now.
Have you ever been to Fayetteville Ark and Columbia MO. Talk about being in the middle of nowhere but Arky is recruiting alot of OOS students. Hell for that Matter Clemson is in the sticks. But Arkys marketing is huge esp on Texas. Clemson recruits heavily in the NE US. We used to call Clemson New Jersey school of engineering. It's always about what the schools do in the marketing dept and now social media.
D and only because I do think the kids tried to continue to play hard for he most part. But hes not the guy and im pretty much out and have been since Toledo. There is way too much smoke to the discipline issues and keeping Hutzler
Correct. The nepotism has been so strong at State since Leach passed. It?s why we are here. Laziness and nepotismQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
It?s definitely a chad morris situation. He only suspended craver because he had no choice. Craver embarrassed him at Tennessee and missed workouts the week after and nothing was done. It leaked out and he had no choice. I?m just telling y?all, he is a frat boy and our practices are as close to a party as you can getQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Easy F