Sounds like Slot doesn't mean a thing since they cut the number of rounds. If they draft you, they expect to sign you. If you don't sign, they just move to their next signee and offer more. The late round bonus is killing us now.
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Sounds like Slot doesn't mean a thing since they cut the number of rounds. If they draft you, they expect to sign you. If you don't sign, they just move to their next signee and offer more. The late round bonus is killing us now.
NIL can't compete with that kinda business.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
We're likely losing our top three recruits. We'll see on Mershon but he's trying hard to leave. It won't take a Brinks truck for him.
Nori, Cason, and ... Travis Smith?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Yep, Smith is like Merson, he wants to go pro. We'll see but the situation isn't positive. We can't get top recruits to campus like other schools, not all our fault but oh well.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Be prepared to hear how we do in fact get some top 150 players to campus each year even though we typically get zero contribution from them for their freshman year. Then hear about how they have to adjust.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Yes, obviously we get some top 150 players but we don't close on day one game changers often. It all boils down to money ultimately but these type of players never seem to work out for us. And yes you have to go after them but, it's all fluff at the end of the day.
The sad thing is that we are sitting here sweating a guy who was drafted in the 15th round and a guy who was drafted in the 18th round. Those guys don't ever sign....but somehow the two we have are just so ready for pro baseball. Like how do we get the shit luck that we do time and time again.
If your expectation is for freshmen to be immediate day one contributors you are going to be disappointed in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
If your expectation is that they will develop into a high level player over three years which is typically what does happen then you will be a lot happier.
That's about program culture to me. Guys like Mangum and Tanner Allen had a lot of pride in playing for MSU. LSU has a long history of guys that want to play for LSU. We have a longer history of guys who want to come to MSU but see it as a means to eventually go pro.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
A player from Mississippi is probably more likely to have that kind of pride than say a guy from South Carolina.
Ehh....I also think the guys we are talking about (Smith and Mershon) have better pro potential than Mangum or Allen. They were both basically always going to be career minor leaguers and that's what they've basically projected as since college. Doesn't diminish the fact that they are great college players, but their pro potential was known by about their sophomore year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Funny how Nori is no longer a day one impact player all of a sudden. Or Cason wouldn't have been a contributor to our BP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Although, Lemo probably wouldn't have put them out there regardless
Freshmen just arent getting alot of playing time now in the Portal Era. Less than 20 SEC Freshmen got 50 or more AB's in 2024Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
Not sure I said that Nori would be a "day one impact " player but if I did the fact that he was a first round pick would see to agree with that assessment.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
Cason would have been wait and see and it would have depended on how good his command would be.
Again- if you are expecting freshmen to contribute at a high level on day one you are going to be disappointed. If it happens be pleasantly surprised because it isn't the norm.
Sounds like a point well missed. There are schools that are getting their early round picks to campus and there are schools getting their Top 10 round picks to return to school. How often has that happened for State? I can think of 2 or 3. Maybe a couple more. When did the culture change so much that 13-18 round guys would rather ride minor league busses than go the college route? Seems like it coincided with the open transfer rules.
Yea, while also making some pretty nice NIL coin in college. Its no longer make your money or go to college since now you can make some decent money while in college.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Auburn kept all their HS players (2 top-100 and 9 top-200) and had an equal-to-better portal. Ole Miss lost 1 pick, 1st rounder, and kept 4 top 100 players and 3 top 200.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
I guess we are stuck with Lemons though. Enough people like him. Not me, but enough.
I?m not a big fan of Lemonis, but we couldn?t fire him this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
If we are in fact losing similar players while programs equal or below us are retaining them then that is a huge problem. I doubt it?s NIL related.
I doubt it?s because they think Lemonis is going to get fired because everyone knows Bianco is a lame duck??
Surely not, that would scare recruits away...Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
Water is wet,Templeton is cheap, Lemonis isn't a great recruiter
In the old days it would, with portal doesn?t seem to matterQuote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44