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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

I'm aware we're trying to add arms, the point of my post was to say we NEED to add arms. Stud starter level arms. Plural.

C34 keeps trying to have his cake and eat it too- saying we're going to add arms, but also saying our Fr are so talented we'll be fine riding with them. He's said that multiple times in this thread alone

Look up- he said regarding our pitching rotation "it's like that for most teams". My post shows nobody is in as bad of a situation as we are- they either have returning guys with better numbers than ours OR they get quality arms from the Portal. The best do both. Thus far we have neither. Even if we land Holman we'll definitely need another starter

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We do have talent. Some of them will emerge and get major innings for us. But we're also going to bring in a lot of arms to compete too. It's going to be very competitive this fall and In January. We're not relying on just transfers or guys on the roster solely. We're trying to get the best we can from every avenue available to fix this- current roster, portal, JUCO, and high school.

Houck drafted in the 1st round, should sign for the Mets.

But it was the end of the 1st round, I kept seeing he was a top-15 pick.

I wonder if this gets interesting. Not holding my breath or anything.

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

Houck drafted in the 1st round, should sign for the Mets.

But it was the end of the 1st round, I kept seeing he was a top-15 pick.

I wonder if this gets interesting. Not holding my breath or anything.

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Looking at the Mets draft situation off hand and after 2 rounds I'm guessing that they are thinking they can go over slot if necessary.

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

Houck drafted in the 1st round, should sign for the Mets.

But it was the end of the 1st round, I kept seeing he was a top-15 pick.

I wonder if this gets interesting. Not holding my breath or anything.

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Best to remember that no team is going to draft someone in the top 10 rounds unless they think there is about a 99% chance they can sign them. Too much of a penalty if they don't.

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

I'm aware we're trying to add arms, the point of my post was to say we NEED to add arms. Stud starter level arms. Plural.

C34 keeps trying to have his cake and eat it too- saying we're going to add arms, but also saying our Fr are so talented we'll be fine riding with them. He's said that multiple times in this thread alone

Look up- he said regarding our pitching rotation "it's like that for most teams". My post shows nobody is in as bad of a situation as we are- they either have returning guys with better numbers than ours OR they get quality arms from the Portal. The best do both. Thus far we have neither. Even if we land Holman we'll definitely need another starter

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Who has added two stud starters, plural, from the portal in the same year? Stud means all sec type guys.

We're adding pieces, but Let's keep it realistic here.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Who has added two stud starters, plural, from the portal in the same year? Stud means all sec type guys.

We're adding pieces, but Let's keep it realistic here.

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Ok that's a fair definition of "stud". Let me rephrase: we need a Friday and Saturday starter that can compete vs the guys they'll face off against and combine to give us 10-13 innings a weekend.

If we can do that, I'll be happy. If Cade comes back another year and we got 1 starter from the Portal, ill be happy. If we rely on Loo/Holcombe/Loftin to fill 2 weekend starter spots, were in trouble.

The whole point of my last few posts has been to counter the C34 narrative that the guys we have can be solid starters next year, or that every sec team is in the same pitching boat as us so we shouldn't worry too much. I am making zero predictions on what we'll get from the Portal nor am I implying we aren't trying to add arms. Just stating we need too

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

Houck drafted in the 1st round, should sign for the Mets.

But it was the end of the 1st round, I kept seeing he was a top-15 pick.

I wonder if this gets interesting. Not holding my breath or anything.

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Because the Mets were the ones who could meet his asking price. He was their first pick and they had the money. The teams picking in the 15-20 range didn't want to pay what he was asking, the Mets obviously did.

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

If Cade comes back another year and we got 1 starter from the Portal, ill be happy. If we rely on Loo/Holcombe/Loftin to fill 2 weekend starter spots, were in trouble.

The whole point of my last few posts has been to counter the C34 narrative that the guys we have can be solid starters next year, or that every sec team is in the same pitching boat as us so we shouldn't worry too much. I am making zero predictions on what we'll get from the Portal nor am I implying we aren't trying to add arms. Just stating we need too

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That's just where we disagree. First of all- for the last time- there is zero chance Cade returns. He is not coming back. He comes back he will have no leverage next draft and will have to sign for some peanut M&M's and a Dr Pepper. He's not doing that

Secondly, while I agree we need another SEC arm- I fully believe 2 of our SEC SP's will come from Loo, Holcombe, or Loftin. We seem to forget that Loftin pitched alot midweek and we didnt lose midweek games. He gave up few hits. Those 3 simply have too much talent. Simmons will be almost 2 years post TJ surgery in January. He should be one of our best pitchers. We have some arms already on campus. The new PC needs to harness their talent and have them live up to it.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

That's just where we disagree. First of all- for the last time- there is zero chance Cade returns. He is not coming back. He comes back he will have no leverage next draft and will have to sign for some peanut M&M's and a Dr Pepper. He's not doing that

Secondly, while I agree we need another SEC arm- I fully believe 2 of our SEC SP's will come from Loo, Holcombe, or Loftin. We seem to forget that Loftin pitched alot midweek and we didnt lose midweek games. He gave up few hits. Those 3 simply have too much talent. Simmons will be almost 2 years post TJ surgery in January. He should be one of our best pitchers. We have some arms already on campus. The new PC needs to harness their talent and have them live up to it.

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Agree to disagree on this one. Hope you're right though. I don't see the evidence though... it's rare for 8+ERA guys to turn into sub 5 ERA guys while simultaneously being able to get through the lineup and extra time (ie pitch 5-6 innings consistently vs 2 this year). Loftin looked good but 26 innings vs non con does not guarantee he can start in the SEC. We shall see. I'll shut up until we see what the Portal news is

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Originally Posted by Coach34

That's just where we disagree. First of all- for the last time- there is zero chance Cade returns. He is not coming back. He comes back he will have no leverage next draft and will have to sign for some peanut M&M's and a Dr Pepper. He's not doing that

Secondly, while I agree we need another SEC arm- I fully believe 2 of our SEC SP's will come from Loo, Holcombe, or Loftin. We seem to forget that Loftin pitched alot midweek and we didnt lose midweek games. He gave up few hits. Those 3 simply have too much talent. Simmons will be almost 2 years post TJ surgery in January. He should be one of our best pitchers. We have some arms already on campus. The new PC needs to harness their talent and have them live up to it.

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That?s optimistic and that?s ok but it sure would be nice to grab a couple of starters that has been there and performed well.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

Because the Mets were the ones who could meet his asking price. He was their first pick and they had the money. The teams picking in the 15-20 range didn't want to pay what he was asking, the Mets obviously did.

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Yeah, but it?s not necessarily that easy. You have to have the slot money to use on it. And their 2nd and 3rd picks were both college juniors ranked right about where the Mets took them, so the likelihood of getting them to sign much under slot seems low. The slot value for pick 15, about where Houck was projected, is about $4.4 million. The slot value at 32 is $2.6 million. So if the teams around 15-20 weren?t willing to pay Houck?s price, that likely means it?s north of the $4.4 million. That means the Mets would have to find an additional $2 million or more of slot value to be able to pay him and they?re probably not finding that with their 2nd or 3rd picks. So they?d have to find that extra money later by drafting a bunch of college seniors before round 10 or 1 or 2 guys at least soon that they pay basically nothing.

My guess is that they?ll sign him, and probably for less than the $4.4 million. I?m guessing he fell for other reasons than just a high dollar demand.

Clark and Larry still on the board towards the end of the 10th round

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Would a power 5 all American count, hypothetically of course

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Montgomery now in the portal

Supposedly this was by design

Boy, that's hard to believe*

Montgomer’s PC was the PC for the national team. So he was waiting till the last second to hit the portal

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Supposedly this was by design

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Correct. I was told july 10 two months ago. But one day off.

Can we land the Montgomery kid?

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Originally Posted by calidawg

Can we land the Montgomery kid?

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Yes

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Originally Posted by calidawg

Can we land the Montgomery kid?

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Insiders have been saying that for a while, biggest hurdle was him actually entering the Portal. We should be good now. He's from MS by the way