2022 MSU FOOTBALL RECRUITING Discussion Thread

Don?t shoot the messenger but I was told by someone who works with the recruiting stuff we should end with a top 15 class we shall see come Wednesday fingers crossed here

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Originally Posted by Jarius

Nobody wants to hear this because it isn’t true. He’s not going to destroy the program or anything by not coming but you have really bad information if anyone is telling you we don’t want to sign him.[/QUOTE

I posted this weeks ago but your sources on the staff may be better than mine.

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You posting it weeks ago doesn’t make it any less accurate.

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Originally Posted by Cowboydawg

You posting it weeks ago doesn’t make it any less accurate.

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He?s a good football player. Still on the board, just not the priority our fans think he should be since he has 4 stars.

And papa Blanton needs to tell son Blanton to stay the **** off twitter. How embarrassing even if it’s negative towards OM

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

i think I said this on Blanton a few moths ago, if not on here it was talked about on a text chain with some posters.

We really needed to win the recruiting battle over OM for Blanton for one reason.. to win the PR . That?s it

Now if or when he signs with the Cocks it isn?t upsetting in the least. Would still love him to chose us on Wednesday ( if we send papers)
If not best of luck to the kid in Columbia.
To add odds are we won?t here the name Stone Blanton very much over the next 4-5 years unless he hits the portal or sticks to the diamond full time..

And on another note, I was 100% wrong.. we should offer the Ford kid from East Webster IF we have a spot open..
he may never be a SEC LB but I have heard from some coaches that he?s is a throw back football player.. I like shit like that

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This is a good post.

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Leach don't mess around if you piss him off.

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This

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

And papa Blanton needs to tell son Blanton to stay the **** off twitter. How embarrassing even if it’s negative towards OM

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It may be, but it is well understood that Kiffin has pissed off a large number of coaches in this state by his recruiting antics and flat out treating HC like crap. It catches up with you. Take a look at how many kids from Mississippi are going there. It will make a difference at some point and this is starting to get out in public.

Ho Hum
Blanton pusses out because he's scared to fight for a spot. Imagine that! I tried to tell you he wasn't a big loss before. I'd take his stars but he's no difference maker.
Warned you, it's going to be fun til Feb. Just hang on. Don't get caught up in the BS and ebb and flow. Still got a shot to be around top 25. Still another surprise waiting.
Never get caught up in the overselling of things either. Sometimes you've got to simply use common sense (I know that's tough for a couple people).

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Ho Hum
Blanton pusses out because he's scared to fight for a spot. Imagine that! I tried to tell you he wasn't a big loss before. I'd take his stars but he's no difference maker.
Warned you, it's going to be fun til Feb. Just hang on. Don't get caught up in the BS and ebb and flow. Still got a shot to be around top 25. Still another surprise waiting.
Never get caught up in the overselling of things either. Sometimes you've got to simply use common sense (I know that's tough for a couple people).

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Stone better think long about playing big boy football and if he really wants to or not. If I were good in baseball I dont know if I'd want to risk injury and screw that up.

IMO, I think baseball is the motivating factor here. My son played on the same summer baseball EC Sox team. Stone was very excited to get the baseball offer from state. That was the 16U team.
Now, here we are, post NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP season with baseball recruiting on a different level.

Idk what South Carolina is telling the Blantons regarding baseball, but I believe they must feel like there's a better chance to get on the diamond there.

Again, this is just imho. Based on being around the Blantons that summer.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Ho Hum
Blanton pusses out because he's scared to fight for a spot. Imagine that! I tried to tell you he wasn't a big loss before. I'd take his stars but he's no difference maker.
Warned you, it's going to be fun til Feb. Just hang on. Don't get caught up in the BS and ebb and flow. Still got a shot to be around top 25. Still another surprise waiting.
Never get caught up in the overselling of things either. Sometimes you've got to simply use common sense (I know that's tough for a couple people).

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From the football side Stone always seemed like Cumbest 2.0 to me. Good enough to play both but not good enough to earn lots of PT at either while splitting time.

I have no idea what will happen in the next 3 years. I really thought he was coming to State and wanted him but it?s really tough to do 2 sports in the SEC.

And several that have better sources seem to think baseball is the first love.

Here's the truth about coaches "promising" a recruit/any recruit playing time. If they "promise" that, it's coach speak and they're lying and said recruit should think long and hard about playing for a liar. That's what I appreciate about Leach, he's not a liar. Not a single coach in the SEC is going to start a kid or give him significant playing time unless he's good enough.

To be honest I mainly wanted Stone for the rankings boost. But on a positive note I am very excited about Zavion. All my LSU coworkers are pissed that LSU didnt offer and they tell me we got the steal of the class with him.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Ho Hum
Blanton pusses out because he's scared to fight for a spot. Imagine that! I tried to tell you he wasn't a big loss before. I'd take his stars but he's no difference maker.
Warned you, it's going to be fun til Feb. Just hang on. Don't get caught up in the BS and ebb and flow. Still got a shot to be around top 25. Still another surprise waiting.
Never get caught up in the overselling of things either. Sometimes you've got to simply use common sense (I know that's tough for a couple people).

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So no need to pay attention to posts with ... :cool: :cool: :cool:. Got it!

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

So no need to pay attention to posts with ... :cool: :cool: :cool:. Got it!

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Just the ones with two it appears

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

Here's the truth about coaches "promising" a recruit/any recruit playing time. If they "promise" that, it's coach speak and they're lying and said recruit should think long and hard about playing for a liar. That's what I appreciate about Leach, he's not a liar. Not a single coach in the SEC is going to start a kid or give him significant playing time unless he's good enough.

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Lying to a kid like that creates a lot of Ricos who think their time is always now. It will keep the portal hopping for many years to come.

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

Here's the truth about coaches "promising" a recruit/any recruit playing time. If they "promise" that, it's coach speak and they're lying and said recruit should think long and hard about playing for a liar. That's what I appreciate about Leach, he's not a liar. Not a single coach in the SEC is going to start a kid or give him significant playing time unless he's good enough.

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This exactly and apparently Blanton wants promises.

Janari Dean enters portal. That sucks

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Janari Dean enters portal. That sucks

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Had high hopes for him. Probably for the best.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Janari Dean enters portal. That sucks

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Not surprised. He hasn?t contributed really -due to injuries I suppose- can?t afford to keep guys around anymore.

With Janari Dean in the portal. What situation does that put us in with guys like Rogers, Nicholson, etc

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Originally Posted by Chuck3124

With Janari Dean in the portal. What situation does that put us in with guys like Rogers, Nicholson, etc

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Dean was a Safety that wants to play RB. Those guys are CBS.

We ain't getting Rogers.

Nicholson is probably still a toss up even though we're looking better.

Need to land Marcus Banks.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Dean was a Safety that wants to play RB. Those guys are CBS.

We ain't getting Rogers.

Nicholson is probably still a toss up even though we're looking better.

Need to land Marcus Banks.

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apparently Banks to Miami.

Sounds like the excitement was short lived. Looking like our typical end of cycle crash and burn

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

apparently Banks to Miami.

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Haha damn. McBath is so bad at this.

Miami is going to beat us for 2 kids at CB. With a new coaching staff that hasn't even been there for 2 weeks.

Blanton- miss
Oatis- miss
Rogers- miss
Banks- miss
Desmond Williams (ECCC CB)- miss
Z. Harris - miss
Ajay Allen - likely miss

We're pretty much banking on Trevion Williams and Percy Lewis to save us. Nicholson is a must get now. You miss on him, and some serious questions need to be asked regarding McBath and CB recruiting.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Sounds like the excitement was short lived. Looking like our typical end of cycle crash and burn

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We do this to ourselves every year, lol.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

apparently Banks to Miami.

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That sucks, was hearing things were trending in our direction;

Cristobal is known as one of the best recruiters in the country.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Haha damn. McBath is so bad at this.

Miami is going to beat us for 2 kids at CB. With a new coaching staff that hasn't even been there for 2 weeks.

Blanton- miss
Oatis- miss
Rogers- miss
Banks- miss
Desmond Williams (ECCC CB)- miss
Z. Harris - miss
Ajay Allen - likely miss

We're pretty much banking on Trevion Williams and Percy Lewis to save us. Nicholson is a must get now. You miss on him, and some serious questions need to be asked regarding McBath and CB recruiting.

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Trevion williams, Lewis, Ramsey, Nicholson, and dinkins.

So no pissing our pants anymore? Well I guess that’s a silver lining in itself

Just because a beat writer from Miami is pushing the narrative on Banks to the canes let’s all not over react .. he may go there but he and his fam just left Starkville less than 24 hours ago..
and according to my source ( who is a coach on staff ) it went good and we like our chances,,

In previous years on the first page of the recruiting thread there was a list that was edited full of our commits with links to their profiles. Would it be possible to go back to that format for future recruiting threads?

I dont get quite as worked up about recruiting as I used to. Its such a crapshoot for us. One of our best classes was 2015 or 2016 that was ranked in the top 18. That class ended up having a lot of duds and no real game changers.
And the 2011 class that ended up in the 40s produced some monsters like Dak and Preston Smith.
That being said I would much rather be in the top 20 every year but at the same time theres no telling with these kids.

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Originally Posted by BayouDawg

I dont get quite as worked up about recruiting as I used to. Its such a crapshoot for us. One of our best classes was 2015 or 2016 that was ranked in the top 18. That class ended up having a lot of duds and no real game changers.
And the 2011 class that ended up in the 40s produced some monsters like Dak and Preston Smith.
That being said I would much rather be in the top 20 every year but at the same time theres no telling with these kids.

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I think you definitely have to focus on the class as a whole rather than one or two specific guys that you may or may not have gotten. Like you mentioned though, even one year's specific class ranking can be deceiving. That 2011 class was super underrated in hindsight, whereas our highest ranked class in recent years (2015) was pretty overrated in hindsight with blue chip guys like Lewis, Peters, and Dear having pretty unremarkable careers.

I think in general the best indicator is your average class ranking over a period of a few years. We sign a lot of borderline Top 25 classes, we have a lot of borderline Top 25 teams, makes sense. Some years you may exceed your average recruiting ranking, some years you may fall short of it, and the same goes for on the field results. One class isn't going to make or break your program 99% of the time. It's more about stacking several good classes in a row. And most time you can't tell if a class is "good" or not for 2-3 years down the road.

I know it is shortsighted on my part, but my focus is on a Transfer CB, OT, and WR.

We have a shot to win 9-10 games next fall if we can hit on those spots in the portal.

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Originally Posted by BayouDawg

I dont get quite as worked up about recruiting as I used to. Its such a crapshoot for us. One of our best classes was 2015 or 2016 that was ranked in the top 18. That class ended up having a lot of duds and no real game changers.
And the 2011 class that ended up in the 40s produced some monsters like Dak and Preston Smith.
That being said I would much rather be in the top 20 every year but at the same time theres no telling with these kids.

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I suspect that this will be the highest ranked class Leach has ever had. He did have the 28th class in 2006 at Texas Tech. His greatest team was 2008 which was preceded by classes ranked 39, 38, 28 and 32.

Just don't blame the coaches fellas. They're getting them on campus. Either way we'll get whom we're supposed to get.

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

I know it is shortsighted on my part, but my focus is on a Transfer CB, OT, and WR.

We have a shot to win 9-10 games next fall if we can hit on those spots in the portal.

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A transfer CB is an absolute must. We only have 1 starting CB on the roster. Transfer OT's are tough to find b/c schools aren't going to let a good one hit the portal. WR is a luxury, but I would like the kid that visited from FIU. Need to find a kicker. I wish we had more speed at Safety and LB as well.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

A transfer CB is an absolute must. We only have 1 starting CB on the roster. Transfer OT's are tough to find b/c schools aren't going to let a good one hit the portal. WR is a luxury, but I would like the kid that visited from FIU. Need to find a kicker. I wish we had more speed at Safety and LB as well.

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The OT from FIU has like 30 Power 5 offers. I don't know his name, but I thought we had a shot and then I'm seeing Ohio State and half the SEC and Big 10 offer the kid, so I'm not liking our chances. It seems like offensive lineman that can play in the SEC will be at an extreme premium.

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

The OT from FIU has like 30 Power 5 offers. I don't know his name, but I thought we had a shot and then I'm seeing Ohio State and half the SEC and Big 10 offer the kid, so I'm not liking our chances. It seems like offensive lineman that can play in the SEC will be at an extreme premium.

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He's not talking about him, he's talking about the WR from FIU.

The OT is most definitely going somewhere else.