What's your evaluation of Toles from his film?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
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What's your evaluation of Toles from his film?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
CB is one of the easiest positions to evaluate
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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Aren't these Leach's recruits ? ...Is he showing the door to his own recruits ? ... How long will it take to get Leach's players at this rate ? I understand changing your mind on a recruit or two because most other coaches do ... but to offer a guy with no other P5 offers is kind of a head scratcher
There is almost always churn like this in recruiting classes. You take early commitments and a kid has a bad SR year or doesn't progress like they thought, or you find someone else who fits better. It's no different then players who decommit on their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by FISHDAWG
Before Moorhead was fired, the 2020 class had 9 decommits. Leach is at 4 in this class (plus 1 Moorhead commit who decommited back in January).
I think it was smart. A marginal guy that you take if you can't find better.Quote:
Originally Posted by FISHDAWG
Lacks the flexibility to play CB & the physicality to play safety. Has great straight line speed, but change of direction gives him trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
He's a good athlete that'll play college ball somewhere. Maybe he gets bigger offers between now and Feb.
So with about a month out til early signing day who do we need to close with to feel good about our class?
I understand the churn ... Most of those JoMo decommits de-committed on their own - I'm curious how many Joe withdrew offers from though... and I know Mullen did this a lot as well but my point was why even offer a guy with no P5 offers to begin with? ... Here's to hoping Leach can see something that other teams are missing as Dan did a few times because even tho I'm skeptical at this point I'm still pulling really hard for Leach and his system to succeedQuote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
There is another player we need to process and replace
I don't think it's so much who we need to close with, but rather who we need to keep. Gotta fight off LSU for Nabers. Have to. They don't need him, but we do. I think OM will eventually flip Buckhaulter from us. He's been in Oxford an awful lot. I think we hold onto Pounders, but we need to fight off OM on him too.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
To answer your original question though, if we land 2 out of Ty Cooper, Demarcus Smith, or Jaden Jones, I think you have to feel great about that. John Lewis from Germantown is a guy who has blown up lately, so if you can win that battle vs. OM for him, then you'd feel good about that. With Toles being dropped and Eatmon MIA, you need two CBs. Marvin Covington would be a good get. Then ideally, you'd like to flip one out of Jaden Walley or Jadarrius Perkins from MGCCC.
Simply put, we need to hold on to our offensive recruits while adding a couple on the defensive side.
Sometimes it's mis-evaluation by coaches, or they calculate the class balance wrong. Or sometimes a player already on the roster develops more than you thought and the roster numbers don't work. It's an imperfect system for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by FISHDAWG
I would venture a guess that with our overall roster "makeover" that we have lines on guys in the portal and would rather have an experienced player vs. a developmental player and will use the spot somewhere else.
I can see why some coaches just hate recruiting though - it's a crazy way to do business.
Why are we so interested in the South Carolina decommit Rodarius Thomas?
In case Buckhaulter or Nabors de-commitsQuote:
Originally Posted by state66
Would we take his commitment now then?Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Doubt it. He's signing in February so we've got time to see how things go.Quote:
Originally Posted by state66
Fair enough. Well I hope we can sign another CB in this class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Here's another CB option. Kid looks good.
https://twitter.com/2lemondrejoe/sta...214344195?s=21
I would take Thomas over Buckhaulter ..Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
So what was your opinion on Furdge, Jaylon Reed, and Selmon?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Additionally what was your opinion on Jarrian Jones and Martin Emerson in the same class? Guarantee you thought Jones would be the star of that class and not the third best DB we had committed in that class. DJ James and Emerson were the two studs in that DB class and it sucks we lost James to Oregon.
I personally agree with this. Buck is a bigger bodied guy who ain’t running by anybody and ain’t gonna get a lot of YAC it doesn’t seem like. And YAC, speed, and quickness seem to be pretty important for this offense, especially when we’re checking it down 7 yards or in. You gotta have guys who can catch it and get up field and make people miss. I like Buck as an outside, downfield threat (not anywhere as much as Moore though) but Thomas just seems like the type of WR we need more of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
USCe knows how to evaluate WRs and I trust their evals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
I dare some of you to go look back over the last few years on the 24/7 rankings for MS HS players; look at the top 10 and then keep scrolling. You?ll realize quickly that most of the state?s NFL players were in the 30s, etc. We can?t keep taking the Morrow?s, Austin Williams, etc and missing on the Omar Bayless, Jaylon Smith, Ty Fooglesburg, the kid from Vicksburg with the Colts, Cornell Armstrong, etc. Have to get back to getting football players with a love for the game.
No offense to Buck, but neither he nor Deion Smith are killing MAIS competition. The best WR in the state is committed to us, Jacobi Moore.Quote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19
Ehhhhhh I’m not some talent evaluator or anything but Deion is elite. There’s a pretty good sized gap between him and the 2nd best WR in the state imo. I think Jacobi Moore has a very high celling. He’s big tall and rangy to take the top off on the outside but he’s also unusually quick and fast for his size too to where he can catch and get up field and turn it into a big play.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
Agree to disagree. You can ask StarkvegasSteve about my evals on Metro MS kids. Smith is going to be a lot like Heath. I would love to have him, don?t get me wrong and if Tommy was still involved with him, he?d be here. When Shay started running around with his hand out (like the AAU coach in Jackson that was involved with Kegler, etc) it was over. Shay is also the reason Jarrian left too (cousins). Unfortunately for Shay, his cousin has had a better career than he in the NFL (Khadrel Hodge)Quote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19
Forgive my ignorance here but who is Tommy? And what’s the connection there that if he was still involved he would be here? (Is he the HC at Provine or something? That’s just a guess)Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
Any idea which one has the better QB ?Quote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19
Well Deion?s is a baseball commit of ours, Jackson Conn.Quote:
Originally Posted by FISHDAWG
Does anyone have any insight on Walley's brother's recruitment?
With an emerging start like Walley, it makes absolutely ZERO sense to me why we're having trouble recruiting his brother.
Is he not a take? That's the only thing that makes any sense here
Walley is a take. But he's not necessarily the top of the list.
What do you think is the most likely finish to this class Cooter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Deion Smith is the best WR in the state .. Most talented , most upside... period
Any chance we can turn him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
He just seems so perfect for this offense
If he were to flip to a team I think it would be us.. I just don’t see it happening..Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I am more concerned about holding on to Knox and Nabers than if Smith can flip or not..
You have a WR core of
Heath
Tulu
Walley
Williams
And maybe Payton if he elects to come back
And mix in freshman
Knoxs
Nabers
Moore
With the 2 backs Marks and Johnson.
That’s some really nice weapons for Will ..
I was impressed with Caleb Ducking's film last year. I don't know if he will be ready or not next year but I could see him helping at some point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
I would like to see us take another WR regardless.
I think Knox is solid. We seem to be weathering the storm with Nabers. Hope it continues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Saw where we made the final four for Ahmonte Watkins along with TAMU, TTU, and TCU. Any chance here?
https://twitter.com/ahmontewatkins/s...390641664?s=21
Playing well like last night certainly helps I'd imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Pretty good shot. He's a burner. Got a good shot with White too. But Watkins is probably top of the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
We need to hurry up and drop Howard and sign 2 out of Watkins, White, and Hunter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
losing DJ James and Greg Brooks the past couple of years really hurt our CB depth
But the Myles Mason for Aaron Brule trade has worked out pretty well for us.