2016 MSU Football Recruiting Thread

I think we are around 13 decommitments for the 2016 class. That shit is crazy.

Maybe someone can help me:

Robert Washington
Scott Lashley
Tre Turner
Briston Guidry
Zach Farrar
Raekwon Davis
Zaire Jones

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Farrar is the type of recruit that we lose because we don't generally cheat at a high level.

Once Farrar was offered by Oklahoma, it should have been obvious that he'd flip. Oklahoma is 2 1/2 hours from his high school and Starkville is 8 1/2. The kid also grew up an Oklahoma fan. It makes perfect sense to me that he'd flip. The only way he doesnt is if we are cheating our asses off.

Now, how you get kids out of Allen high school that have offers from those same schools, I have no clue.

Farrah flipping makes sense. Not sure what our coaches could do.

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Just makes getting AJ that much more important. However, the deck seems to be stacked against us on that one as well.

Not bringing turner in for an OV and not getting mcinnis could turn out to be mistakes

We should offer Lorenzo Dantzler tonight. We clearly have room, he's a solid hard working player, & he's buddies with AJ. Worst case scenario, we don't get AJ but we end up with a guy looking to prove he's an SEC player & plays over his head.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

We should offer Lorenzo Dantzler tonight. We clearly have room, he's a solid hard working player, & he's buddies with AJ. Worst case scenario, we don't get AJ but we end up with a guy looking to prove he's an SEC player & plays over his head.

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Nah.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Nah.

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We have lesser players with offers &/or committed. And we signed lesser players in each of the last 3 classes. We also had people saying "nah" to Dylan Bradley as well. Guess in 2 years when Dantzler is USM's best defensive player, I can bring him up again like I am Bradley this year.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

We have lesser players with offers &/or committed. And we signed lesser players in each of the last 3 classes. We also had people saying "nah" to Dylan Bradley as well. Guess in 2 years when Dantzler is USM's best defensive player, I can bring him up again like I am Bradley this year.

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I agree .. Much rather use a scholarship on a player like this or a OL..

So we are going to be lucky to have a class ranked in the 30's coming off two good seasons. Oof

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Agree but we aren't cheating our asses off.

It's tough to compete in this conference without cheating. Damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

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We just got off of NCAA probation this past summer I believe. Why don't we see what happens to Ole Miss? Could get very interesting when OM receives "all" their recrutiing violations.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

We should offer Lorenzo Dantzler tonight. We clearly have room, he's a solid hard working player, & he's buddies with AJ. Worst case scenario, we don't get AJ but we end up with a guy looking to prove he's an SEC player & plays over his head.

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I agree!

Pretty freaking pitiful is what it is. It's as if we lack modern facilities or weight room. No one can convince me that everyone else would have this much trouble getting players here. I'm not sure anybody would.

if it would help with Willie Gay and others, I say do it. There's still time though. This time tomorrow may be the time to think about panicking.

Kobe left his visit at UNM today and went to talk with our coaches this afternoon. We have offered a JUCO DE/OL Gary McRae, former Georgia commit tonight. I think after Farrar.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Pretty freaking pitiful is what it is. It's as if we lack modern facilities or weight room. No one can convince me that everyone else would have this much trouble getting players here. I'm not sure anybody would.

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It's cause there isn't shit to do in Starkville. Other than bulldog bash or super bull dog weekend there is literally nothing to do. I hate to say this cause I've been a state fan my whole life but when we have big recruiting weekends the recruits don't have anything to do really. I wish Starkville would build more shit and have more stuff to do. The population isn't that great there so I understand it is what it is. But unless we are paying the shit out of these players we will never have. Great recruiting class I'm sorry but that's the truth. Last years class was the best I can remember in a long time if not ever since Sherrill was here.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Kobe left his visit at UNM today and went to talk with our coaches this afternoon. We have offered a JUCO DE/OL Gary McRae, former Georgia commit tonight. I think after Farrar.

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See, I'd rather have Dantzler...especially since it appears we may need some help recruiting our own city.

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Originally Posted by djaymsu5

It's cause there isn't shit to do in Starkville. Other than bulldog bash or super bull dog weekend there is literally nothing to do. I hate to say this cause I've been a state fan my whole life but when we have big recruiting weekends the recruits don't have anything to do really. I wish Starkville would build more shit and have more stuff to do. The population isn't that great there so I understand it is what it is. But unless we are paying the shit out of these players we will never have. Great recruiting class I'm sorry but that's the truth. Last years class was the best I can remember in a long time if not ever since Sherrill was here.

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Garbage. Starkville is no worse than Oxford...they just know how to talk themselves up, so they have a false perception. We have posts like this while OM fans are busy posting how incredible their town is. That's the difference...we do ourselves zero favors.

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Originally Posted by djaymsu5

It's cause there isn't shit to do in Starkville. Other than bulldog bash or super bull dog weekend there is literally nothing to do. I hate to say this cause I've been a state fan my whole life but when we have big recruiting weekends the recruits don't have anything to do really. I wish Starkville would build more shit and have more stuff to do. The population isn't that great there so I understand it is what it is. But unless we are paying the shit out of these players we will never have. Great recruiting class I'm sorry but that's the truth. Last years class was the best I can remember in a long time if not ever since Sherrill was here.

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There's literally NOTHING more to do in Oxford than in Starkville. That is OM propaganda bullshit. Football players are too busy to **** around in the grove, or bars anyway. It's not a factor.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

We have lesser players with offers &/or committed. And we signed lesser players in each of the last 3 classes. We also had people saying "nah" to Dylan Bradley as well. Guess in 2 years when Dantzler is USM's best defensive player, I can bring him up again like I am Bradley this year.

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We've covered this before. Completely different situation than Bradley. It would not help us with AJ.

The only thing Oxford has that Starkville lacks is a modern department store. That's quite the attraction for players**

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

We've covered this before. Completely different situation than Bradley. It would not help us with AJ.

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#1. You don't know that.

#2. Even if it doesn't, it could help us with SHS kids the next few years.

#3. Dantzler is a good player. Better than reaching for some 2 star Juco career bench warmer.

#4. I bet you didn't want Bradley either.

It's not all about AJ.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

See, I'd rather have Dantzler...especially since it appears we may need some help recruiting our own city.

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McCrae was committed to Georgia and has offers from Louisville and Mich State. Just no on Dantzler

Paul reports that Kobe didn't speak with UNM media after he left and he was not wowed on his visit. Spent a couple of hours with our coaches this afternoon.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Garbage. Starkville is no worse than Oxford...they just know how to talk themselves up, so they have a false perception. We have posts like this while OM fans are busy posting how incredible their town is. That's the difference...we do ourselves zero favors.

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I'm not saying there is anything to do in Oxford either I'm just talking about Starkville. Do y'all not agree that there should be more to do there?

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

#1. You don't know that.

#2. Even if it doesn't, it could help us with SHS kids the next few years.

#3. Dantzler is a good player. Better than reaching for some 2 star Juco career bench warmer.

#4. I bet you didn't want Bradley either.

It's not all about AJ.

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Again, we covered this and I was a big Bradley fan. I know it makes sense in your head but please stop.

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Originally Posted by bobcat91

McCrae was committed to Georgia and has offers from Louisville and Mich State. Just no on Dantzler

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I wasn't talking about him. I was just making an example of our typical late pickups to fill lost spots

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Paul reports that Kobe didn't speak with UNM media after he left and he was not wowed on his visit. Spent a couple of hours with our coaches this afternoon.

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Kobe is a bulldog and has a lot of hometown pride. He loves Starkville. We will develop him into an All SEC Dlinemen before he graduates.

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Originally Posted by bobcat91

McCrae was committed to Georgia and has offers from Louisville and Mich State. Just no on Dantzler

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Yea McRae was a 4 star out of high school that didn't qualify because of grades. Seems to be one of Buckleys guys from when he was at Louisville. I think it would be a steal to snag this kid. Could turn out to be a big get for us. I'm not opposed to Dantzler either though I think with a couple years in the weight room and the right coaching he could be a diamond in the rough for sure.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Again, we covered this and I was a big Bradley fan. I know it makes sense in your head but please stop.

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I don't know who you think you are, but you don't get to tell me when to stop. You aren't the recruiting guru. I have my opinions, so unless Dantzler carries baggage, I stand by what I say.

If there's more to Dantzler, say it or PM me. Otherwise feel free to disagree, but don't try acting like you can see the future.

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Originally Posted by djaymsu5

I'm not saying there is anything to do in Oxford either I'm just talking about Starkville. Do y'all not agree that there should be more to do there?

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I'd love for there to be more to do, but unfortunately, the population of Starkville is just south of 25k permanent residents. Businesses are gonna struggle to survive when kids aren't in school.

McRae is on campus right now after he returned from Louisville. He also received a late offer from TN. He has 3 to play 3 as well

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Originally Posted by djaymsu5

It's cause there isn't shit to do in Starkville. Other than bulldog bash or super bull dog weekend there is literally nothing to do. I hate to say this cause I've been a state fan my whole life but when we have big recruiting weekends the recruits don't have anything to do really. I wish Starkville would build more shit and have more stuff to do. The population isn't that great there so I understand it is what it is. But unless we are paying the shit out of these players we will never have. Great recruiting class I'm sorry but that's the truth. Last years class was the best I can remember in a long time if not ever since Sherrill was here.

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Of course they think their place is better. When everyone is running around on coke and dope, they don't know any better.

Does the McCrae offer have anything to do with Simmons or because of the spot farrar opened up? Seems strange a de would take a wr spot

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Originally Posted by djaymsu5

I'm not saying there is anything to do in Oxford either I'm just talking about Starkville. Do y'all not agree that there should be more to do there?

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Like what? More bars? Cause that's all UNM prides itself on. Oh they will tell you they are a classy bunch and so sophisticated, but real person with class wouldn't have to tell you that. They have nothing to offer that State doesn't. Been there and done that in both places.

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Originally Posted by Raytoraid83

Does the McCrae offer have anything to do with Simmons or because of the spot farrar opened up? Seems strange a de would take a wr spot

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Turnier's spot most likely, right?

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Originally Posted by Raytoraid83

Does the McCrae offer have anything to do with Simmons or because of the spot farrar opened up? Seems strange a de would take a wr spot

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Nothing to do with Simmons. And McRae is a tweener OLB/DE. This is a best available deal. And on Simmons, the staff has been speaking with him and his mom this weekend. He will let all the coaches know his decision before signing day.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Nothing to do with Simmons. And McRae is a tweener OLB/DE. This is a best available deal. And on Simmons, the staff has been speaking with him and his mom this weekend. He will let all the coaches know his decision before signing day.

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Good to hear

Take them ALL .. McCrae, Kobe, Dantlzer even if we do get Simmons....
We HAVE to get better UP front on both sides of the ball...

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Pretty freaking pitiful is what it is. It's as if we lack modern facilities or weight room. No one can convince me that everyone else would have this much trouble getting players here. I'm not sure anybody would.

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You do realize why that is, right?

Hint... it aint Mullen.

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Originally Posted by djaymsu5

It's cause there isn't shit to do in Starkville. Other than bulldog bash or super bull dog weekend there is literally nothing to do. I hate to say this cause I've been a state fan my whole life but when we have big recruiting weekends the recruits don't have anything to do really. I wish Starkville would build more shit and have more stuff to do. The population isn't that great there so I understand it is what it is. But unless we are paying the shit out of these players we will never have. Great recruiting class I'm sorry but that's the truth. Last years class was the best I can remember in a long time if not ever since Sherrill was here.

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Doesn't the fact that we recruit at an elite level in baseball and soon to be basketball dispute this completely??

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Originally Posted by djaymsu5

I'm not saying there is anything to do in Oxford either I'm just talking about Starkville. Do y'all not agree that there should be more to do there?

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No doubt it could be much better but yes, Starkville is still a mostly rural town but it is leaps and bounds better than it was 20 to 30 years ago. And it seems to be fine to attract top quality basketball and baseball players as Cohen and Howland are showing. Lack of "hotspots" in and around Starkville is a factor in recruiting for some prospects but I personally don't believe its anywhere near our biggest problem. I really don't want to say anymore on this particular topic until after signing day but I definitely think our coaches could improve their recruiting methods.