THE 2020 MSU Football Recruiting Talk Thread

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

It really is awful. I've never seen a group of fans so against an 8 win coach in his first year in my life. He's not perfect, but also didn't lose to South Alabama while wearing shorts. Until we come together as a fan base and pull in the same direction we will never get to where Baseball and WB are currently at. I guess WB was so under the radar until they started winning so nobody cared enough to bitch about everyday.

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Awesome post. I wrote this exact same message in a thread I started last night. I?m sick of getting on here and seeing all the experts kick a good man down. We are shooting holes in our own ship.

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

JMO,but 8 wins ain't what it used to be. Beat 4 OOC foes that usually don't have a pulse, continue to beat Arky, and UM, we should never lose to KY, and win one from the last 4, and that's eight. Beating the "dead horse" of last year, no way we should have lost to KY, Fl, or Iowa. I'll be in my season ticket seat with my 7 family members for year approx. 52 and I've seen it all at State.. I'm all for Joe and MSU, but talk of shelf room for a Heisman, getting ring sizes, "Championship Standards", didn't help much at all. See Emory Bellard predicting an SEC Championship and not winning a single SEC game. A ring for beating UM also seems like something they would do. I now want and expect more than eight and I don't think that is a bad thing. Hail State!

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Please go watch Brandon Walkers podcast from today. And for the record, the ring was given to them by the outback bowl, not Coach Moorhead. And please tell me how many teams each year win more than 8 games? I'll hang up and listen.

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

Please go watch Brandon Walkers podcast from today. And for the record, the ring was given to them by the outback bowl, not Coach Moorhead. And please tell me how many teams each year win more than 8 games? I'll hang up and listen.

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9 sec teams won 8 last year

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

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Originally Posted by msstate7

9 sec teams won 8 last year

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I said more?

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

I said more?

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Sorry, 6

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Sorry, 6

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And we were a couple of dropped passes from being in that group.

So in an attempt to get back on track to an actual recruiting topic I'll throw this out there after the rash of decommits we've had. Would we as a program be better off not accepting any commits from HS kids until at least after the spring evaluation and maybe even the summer camps?

Do decommits cause more negative momentum that early commits?

I'm asking because especially the positional guys that blow up in the spring almost never stick to an early commit and that's true for a lot of schools other than MSU. Kids commit way to early and then realize they have a ton of offers, schools are pressuring people close to the athlete and offering kickbacks if the kid visits or decommits, etc. It's just a TON of pressure for the kids that were ill-prepared to handle it and it's gotten to the point that most fans are more surprised when someone sticks than they are when someone decommits.

Maybe I'm getting the dynamics wrong, but if you have a decommit or two before senior years even start it just seems to suck the life out of the fan base. I'd just feel better if the kid had done his summer tour, really talked it over with our staff to the point where we feel good about it and then let a kid go public. Or does early momentum 6-12 months out carry a lot of weight?

What do y'all think?

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

So in an attempt to get back on track to an actual recruiting topic I'll throw this out there after the rash of decommits we've had. Would we as a program be better off not accepting any commits from HS kids until at least after the spring evaluation and maybe even the summer camps?

Do decommits cause more negative momentum that early commits?

I'm asking because especially the positional guys that blow up in the spring almost never stick to an early commit and that's true for a lot of schools other than MSU. Kids commit way to early and then realize they have a ton of offers, schools are pressuring people close to the athlete and offering kickbacks if the kid visits or decommits, etc. It's just a TON of pressure for the kids that were ill-prepared to handle it and it's gotten to the point that most fans are more surprised when someone sticks than they are when someone decommits.

Maybe I'm getting the dynamics wrong, but if you have a decommit or two before senior years even start it just seems to suck the life out of the fan base. I'd just feel better if the kid had done his summer tour, really talked it over with our staff to the point where we feel good about it and then let a kid go public. Or does early momentum 6-12 months out carry a lot of weight?

What do y'all think?

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No because if you put out a policy like that I think you run a high risk of sending recruits that want to commit the wrong message which may cause them to commit somewhere else and do more damage in the long run.


As a fan we just have to understand that we're going to have guys commit and de-commit throughout the process and not freak out when it happens. It's just part of it. You're dealing with 17-18 year old kids and some want more attention than others.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

No because if you put out a policy like that I think you run a high risk of sending recruits that want to commit the wrong message which may cause them to commit somewhere else and do more damage in the long run.


As a fan we just have to understand that we're going to have guys commit and de-commit throughout the process and not freak out when it happens. It's just part of it. You're dealing with 17-18 year old kids and some want more attention than others.

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I have no inside knowledge, but the decommit's were orchestrated to make us look bad.

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

I have no inside knowledge, but the decommit's were orchestrated to make us look bad.

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Amazing how other schools always seem to acquire that power.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Amazing how other schools always seem to acquire that power.

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Cash money

I find some “recruiting experts” to be overly dramatic.

Found this article interesting... jimbo Fisher is a great recruiter, but he's even getting enough flack from the fans to address a slow start to the 2020 recruiting class. Point is that we aren't the only sec fanbase that "freaks out" about recruiting even this early in the cycle

https://texags.com/s/32159/jimbo-fis...ng-into-summer

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

So in an attempt to get back on track to an actual recruiting topic I'll throw this out there after the rash of decommits we've had. Would we as a program be better off not accepting any commits from HS kids until at least after the spring evaluation and maybe even the summer camps?

Do decommits cause more negative momentum that early commits?

I'm asking because especially the positional guys that blow up in the spring almost never stick to an early commit and that's true for a lot of schools other than MSU. Kids commit way to early and then realize they have a ton of offers, schools are pressuring people close to the athlete and offering kickbacks if the kid visits or decommits, etc. It's just a TON of pressure for the kids that were ill-prepared to handle it and it's gotten to the point that most fans are more surprised when someone sticks than they are when someone decommits.

Maybe I'm getting the dynamics wrong, but if you have a decommit or two before senior years even start it just seems to suck the life out of the fan base. I'd just feel better if the kid had done his summer tour, really talked it over with our staff to the point where we feel good about it and then let a kid go public. Or does early momentum 6-12 months out carry a lot of weight?

What do y'all think?

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You are commended for trying but it will never be strictly on MSU recruiting. That's why Scooba started the other thread, as this one was getting so out in left field you had to sift through page after page of non-recruiting related posts to ever see anything viable on MSU recruiting. Thanks to a few on here who have their "own agenda". Like bashing JoeMo, praising Mullen, or telling us that we (MSU Football Program ) needs to make changes in how things are done or not done, but have no clue what needs to be done to achieve it, etc.

This thread is a great idea, but you are right. I don't even come to this thread very often for recruiting news. It's just to hard to actually find it

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

And we were a couple of dropped passes from being in that group.

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Also, if a couple teams make a couple tackles we only win 6 games.

I sometimes wonder if this is why Mullen always had a few to several commits during Big Dawg camp. The ones that you feel are making the emotional decisions and/or aren?t mature enough to handle the newfound love from all sides...play it like, hey, let?s hold on to your commitment right now until we get to Big Dawg camp and then we?ll announce it with a couple more and y?all will be the bellcows of the class. Play it like it will be more dramatic and carry more weight. This is what most of them are looking for anyway. Just a thought. Then it gives you time during the spring evaluation period for them to get through that and if they decommit and decide to look around, it wouldn?t bring all the negativity that we?ve seen lately.

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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

Also, if a couple teams make a couple tackles we only win 6 games.

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Really?? Every single game we won was by 14 or more points. Couple tackles don't make a difference in that. But one catch could make a difference in a game you lose by 5 or 7 like Iowa or Florida.

LSU is cleaning up at wr. They now have 3 of the top 8 WRs. The crazy part is only 1 is from Louisiana... 1 from from California and the other from Washington DC.