Recruiting 2017

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Originally Posted by smootness

Why the heck would we listen to Dandy fricking Don?

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No idea who even is. Just figured if he's dandy, then he's worth listening to haha

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Biscuiteater's post on sps...

"Yeah, and LSU is becoming desperate to sign a couple of LBs. They lose 2 SRs, have 0 commits, signed 0 two years ago & only 1 LB last year. They have made Willie Gay their #1 target. Summary from LSU's Dandy Don for those interested ..

LSU?s recruiting class suffered a blow yesterday when inside linebacker Monty Rice flipped from LSU to Georgia. Even before this happened, linebacker was LSU?s biggest remaining position of need in this year?s class with only outside linebacker Patrick Queen on board. Now, with Rice (6-1, 227, Madison, Ala.) set to enroll at Georgia this week, the need becomes even greater, especially at inside linebacker where LSU has no current commitments at all and will be without seniors Kendell Beckwith and Duke Riley this coming season. LSU?s trouble recruiting linebackers is nothing new, as last year LSU signed only one, and the year before signed none.


Shortly after the news broke of Rice?s de-commitment, it quickly traveled to San Antonio, Texas, where it was well-received by linebacker Willie Gay at the US Army Team East All-Stars practice. According to Jesse Simonton of SEC Country, Gay responded with, ?Did they have a linebacker de-commit today? Well tell them Willie Gay is on his way.? He went on to explain, ?With Coach Aranda, I?m going to get developed. The swagger. The family. The feeling. I just like the way they play football.? The article also says that Gay immediately encouraged Oklahoma linebacker commit Jacob Phillips, a top Tigers target, to join him at LSU."

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I really hope that last line isn't true

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That Monty Rice kid isn't even on the same planet in regards to talent as Gay. I don't even think Gay knew who he was. That should tell you something. There are about 50 better LBs in the country that LSU could go after. One is in their backyard and committed to Ole Miss. Seems to me as if he is just having a little fun in San Antonio, and this was a good opportunity for manufactured drama.

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Originally Posted by Covercorner2

That Monty Rice kid isn't even on the same planet in regards to talent as Gay. I don't even think Gay knew who he was. That should tell you something. There are about 50 better LBs in the country that LSU could go after. One is in their backyard and committed to Ole Miss. Seems to me as if he is just having a little fun in San Antonio, and this was a good opportunity for manufactured drama.

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I understand what your point is but there aren't close to 50 better LB. May not be 10. Also Clarke can't hold a candle to Willie.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I understand what your point is but there aren't close to 50 better LB. May not be 10. Also Clarke can't hold a candle to Willie.

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Percentage we get gay?

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Percentage we get gay?

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Zero for me*

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Percentage we get gay?

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Higher than LSU.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Percentage we get gay?

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Higher than LSU.

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I don't know about that...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DJP6KH3ZOo8

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Percentage we get gay?

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70%

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Originally Posted by HSVDawg

I don't know about that...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DJP6KH3ZOo8

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RELAX

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I understand what your point is but there aren't close to 50 better LB. May not be 10. Also Clarke can't hold a candle to Willie.

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I am talking about better than Rice. My point is I doubt a 5 star quality player like Gay is going to let someone like Rice affect his college decision.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Zero for me*

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I lol'd

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

RELAX

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I'm guessing that joke went over your head (or you didn't click the link)

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Originally Posted by Covercorner2

I am talking about better than Rice. My point is I doubt a 5 star quality player like Gay is going to let someone like Rice affect his college decision.

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My bad totally mis-read that.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Percentage we get gay?

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With no maroon glasses, I'd say 60%

AG
‏@raceymcmath

My Top 3 Schools
1) Texas A&M
2) LSU
3) Mississippi State


Would love to land him

Last year we were supposed to relax about AJ and Lashley. Gay May or may not come to state but those comments don't look good. We will find out in a couple of weeks.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

Last year we were supposed to relax about AJ and Lashley. Gay May or may not come to state but those comments don't look good. We will find out in a couple of weeks.

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"(That report) is kind of accurate,” Gay revealed. “I know they were already down bad at the linebacker position. The players they've got on their team, they're not really too good right now. They just had a decommitment, the other day, I forgot the guys name, Monty Rice or something like that? Him decommitting just leaves me an opportunity."
"Really all of my schools are even. LSU has probably got a little bit high, a little bit. I don't know where I'm going to go yet but LSU has moved up a little bit higher."

Do those comments sound better? From just the other day on Scout.

don't get your hopes up. Might want to warm up to Braylon Sanders.

I'm going 85%

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Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs

don't get your hopes up. Might want to warm up to Braylon Sanders.

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McMath?

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Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs

don't get your hopes up. Might want to warm up to Braylon Sanders.

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Braylon is a good player he's nothing to sneeze at. 6'1" 185lbs with good speed & good hands.

We are more likely to land Braylon than Willie Gay on a visit. Willie visits LSU on the 20th and that's a problem.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

We are more likely to land Braylon than Willie Gay on a visit. Willie visits LSU on the 20th and that's a problem.

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Gay visits us next weekend with most of our instate guys and commits. That is the better date for him to be on campus with us. He was always going to take visits and already has.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Braylon is a good player he's nothing to sneeze at. 6'1" 185lbs with good speed & good hands.

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Yea, SR on his show kind of downplayed any chance for MSU to pull McMath or Bowie. Sounded like Sanders is the much more likely candidate of the 3 to become an MSU Bulldog.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Gay visits us next weekend with most of our instate guys and commits. That is the better date for him to be on campus with us. He was always going to take visits and already has.

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Gotta list of next week's visitors?

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

"(That report) is kind of accurate,? Gay revealed. ?I know they were already down bad at the linebacker position. The players they've got on their team, they're not really too good right now. They just had a decommitment, the other day, I forgot the guys name, Monty Rice or something like that? Him decommitting just leaves me an opportunity."
"Really all of my schools are even. LSU has probably got a little bit high, a little bit. I don't know where I'm going to go yet but LSU has moved up a little bit higher."

Do those comments sound better? From just the other day on Scout.

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Sounds like LSU is a bit of a leader. Sounds like no one really knows where he will go, Just like no one knew where Lashley, Brown, Avery, and Jeff Simmons were going to go. Hopefully we don't let 2 elite SHS prospects get away in 2 years.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

Sounds like LSU is a bit of a leader. Sounds like no one really knows where he will go, Just like no one knew where Lashley, Brown, Avery, and Jeff Simmons were going to go. Hopefully we don't let 2 elite SHS prospects get away in 2 years.

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Here's my advice: Recruiting interviews are useless. Time & time again, it's been shown that they mean nothing.

Actions & the opinions on insiders mean more. Listen to Ari, Rando, I seen it, IYOK, etc....

Cam Akers never took a visit to Ole Miss. AJ Brown never took a visit to MSU. Again, actions speak louder than words. Willie Gay has been going to MSU's practices all year, has a good friend on the team, & by all indications, has his head screwed on right.

LSU is certainly enticing. It was also extremely enticing to Leo Lewis, Jamal Peters, etc..... Listen to insiders & watch actions. Do not pay attention to recruiting interviews & try to break down what the recruit is saying. They are meaningless

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Yea, SR on his show kind of downplayed any chance for MSU to pull McMath or Bowie. Sounded like Sanders is the much more likely candidate of the 3 to become an MSU Bulldog.

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If you're handicapping the odds of the 3 then Braylon is the front runner. I wouldn't say we lead for Racey or DD but if you get them in on an OV & you take your chances.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

If you're handicapping the odds of the 3 then Braylon is the front runner. I wouldn't say we lead for Racey or DD but if you get them in on an OV & you take your chances.

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If Braylon is the favorite of that group, what's the % of landing him?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If Braylon is the favorite of that group, what's the % of landing him?

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75%

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Here's my advice: Recruiting interviews are useless. Time & time again, it's been shown that they mean nothing.

Actions & the opinions on insiders mean more. Listen to Ari, Rando, I seen it, IYOK, etc....

Cam Akers never took a visit to Ole Miss. AJ Brown never took a visit to MSU. Again, actions speak louder than words. Willie Gay has been going to MSU's practices all year, has a good friend on the team, & by all indications, has his head screwed on right.

LSU is certainly enticing. It was also extremely enticing to Leo Lewis, Jamal Peters, etc..... Listen to insiders & watch actions. Do not pay attention to recruiting interviews & try to break down what the recruit is saying. They are meaningless

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The flip side is CJ Avery spent a lot of time on campus didn't he?

But I agree with your overall premise. I'm actually expecting Willie to sign with LSU. At least that way I don't get my hopes up.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Braylon is a good player he's nothing to sneeze at. 6'1" 185lbs with good speed & good hands.

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I never said he wasn't good. We just have a better shot at him than McMath

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

If you're handicapping the odds of the 3 then Braylon is the front runner. I wouldn't say we lead for Racey or DD but if you get them in on an OV & you take your chances.

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McMath isn't even visiting us is he? I thought he had LSU and A&M lined up the next 2 weekends.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Here's my advice: Recruiting interviews are useless. Time & time again, it's been shown that they mean nothing.

Actions & the opinions on insiders mean more. Listen to Ari, Rando, I seen it, IYOK, etc....

Cam Akers never took a visit to Ole Miss. AJ Brown never took a visit to MSU. Again, actions speak louder than words. Willie Gay has been going to MSU's practices all year, has a good friend on the team, & by all indications, has his head screwed on right.

LSU is certainly enticing. It was also extremely enticing to Leo Lewis, Jamal Peters, etc..... Listen to insiders & watch actions. Do not pay attention to recruiting interviews & try to break down what the recruit is saying. They are meaningless

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I'm not just reading the article. I'm also looking at the recent crystal ball predictions from people like Barton Simmons. I appreciate people giving info here and hope I'm not coming off like I don't. It's just concerning when people well respected like Barton Simmons make those type predictions. We need Gay really really bad and hopefully it will work out for us.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

The flip side is CJ Avery spent a lot of time on campus didn't he?

But I agree with your overall premise. I'm actually expecting Willie to sign with LSU. At least that way I don't get my hopes up.

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Yeah, I can't explain CJ. That's an extremely odd decision.

As for your strategy of expecting Willie to sign with LSU, I understand why MSU feel that way, but I just wish that feeling would go away. I often do the same thing, but it feels like that kind of thinking lowers the expectations & ultimately the ceiling of our program.

I would rather expect to sign Willie, AJ, Lashley, etc.. & then be irate afterwards if we don't. That way people will be held accountable for failures & the program can move forward. I just don't see how things can move forward if everyone is always expecting bad things to happen.

I certainly get it the feeling. Just my two cents.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Yeah, I can't explain CJ. That's an extremely odd decision.

As for your strategy of expecting Willie to sign with LSU, I understand why MSU feel that way, but I just wish that feeling would go away. I often do the same thing, but it feels like that kind of thinking lowers the expectations & ultimately the ceiling of our program.

I would rather expect to sign Willie, AJ, Lashley, etc.. & then be irate afterwards if we don't. That way people will be held accountable for failures & the program can move forward. I just don't see how things can move forward if everyone is always expecting bad things to happen.

I certainly get it the feeling. Just my two cents.

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Well I tried the other way when we lost AJ & Lashley, but nothing changed. So I'm going the other route, ha

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

McMath isn't even visiting us is he? I thought he had LSU and A&M lined up the next 2 weekends.

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I expect him to OV. May be 1/27

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I expect him to OV. May be 1/27

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Hope so, we don't typically have a lot of success that last weekend. Our big in-state is next weekend, our out of state is the next weekend when he will be at A&M, so 1/27 will be a very small group if at all. And at that point he will know if he has a firm LSU offer.

Are there WRs to keep an eye on with lsu that can help us with mcmath?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Gotta list of next week's visitors?

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Hill, Gay, Odom, Hunt, Suggs, Stephen Guidry, maybe Day the punter but he may come the same weekend as Buvilos the kicker, we will see if Bowie shows up but it is tentative for the 13th weekend. As always additions and subtraction will be fluid