Ross Dellenger reporting that Coleman Hutzler will be the new DC..

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12-06-2023, 02:59 PM
Randolph Dupree

....will add that I have no idea who this guy is we just hired and I'm not exactly fired up by the resume. However, I do like the idea of young, hungry coaches that have something to prove. Gonna wait and see what happens and pray for the best.
12-06-2023, 03:00 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

He was willing to come.

Ok, sure; but he was also under contract for 3 more years and not so willing to come to give up that money either. And the whole issue of TAM keeping him under contract through the bowl game. Durkin was going to be a complicated hire.
12-06-2023, 03:00 PM
Offshore Dawg

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

How to say I’m not happy about this hire and I don’t know shit about it but I will make shit up just to prove I don’t know shit.

wise words .
12-06-2023, 03:01 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by Randolph Dupree

This is true. Admin did not approve. Don't know if it was money or the Maryland thing. My guess is that it was money, but not necessarily the salary so much as the buyout. TAMU is going to pay him to stay or pay him to go so they can hold him as long as they want, he's under contract.

Guess they are not too worried about getting a DC locked in then. Maybe they are satisfied with holding on to him unless they think something better surfaces.
12-06-2023, 03:03 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Ok, sure; but he was also under contract for 3 more years and not so willing to come to give up that money either. And the whole issue of TAM keeping him under contract through the bowl game. Durkin was going to be a complicated hire.

I get it. TAM holding the stick at the moment. Just figured they wouldn’t want to sit around too long before announcing something.
12-06-2023, 03:05 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Maybe- but who pays 4.5MM for a DC? That's his buyout plus a year's salary as our DC

Until A&M fires him- nobody is getting him

I get it.
12-06-2023, 03:06 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by Randolph Dupree

....will add that I have no idea who this guy is we just hired and I'm not exactly fired up by the resume. However, I do like the idea of young, hungry coaches that have something to prove. Gonna wait and see what happens and pray for the best.

Pray a lot this go around!!!
12-06-2023, 03:08 PM
preachermatt83

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Originally Posted by woof

This is a GREAT hire! Go look at Hutzler's resume. This guy is an upcoming star in the coaching business. He has SEC West & East coaching experience and knows what it takes in transfer portal, recruiting and NIL.

All of you that still want Geoff Collins or Randy Shannon, are simply out of touch with the modern day game & how its played.

Nick Saban did not hire Collins or Shannon on his staff, why? Nick Saban hired Hutzler, why? - this is enough for me but not for some of you arm-chair coordinators living in 1983.

Good post
12-06-2023, 03:15 PM
Percho

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Instead of freaking out why don't we just excercise a little patience. Lebby wants to win and I doubt he's gonna hire and idiot as dc. Jmho but y'all carry on lol

I am with you. MSU fans need to quit crying and have the coach's and players who will play for MSU, back's. Pray they are here five years from now and have built a program to be proud of.

OR hang our heads and cry, cry, cry.
12-06-2023, 03:32 PM
PCHSDawg

I propose to bitch and complain like any red-blooded American has the God given right to do. At least until they shut me up or I quit paying attention out of apathy like I did halfway thru last season.
12-06-2023, 03:43 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

How to say I?m not happy about this hire and I don?t know shit about it but I will make shit up just to prove I don?t know shit.

Amen
12-06-2023, 03:45 PM
DesotoDog1967

I read on Twitter this guy wants to coach the CFB game coming up
12-06-2023, 04:12 PM
Patrick Tibbons

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Originally Posted by DesotoDog1967

I read on Twitter this guy wants to coach the CFB game coming up

Of course.
12-06-2023, 04:28 PM
TrapGame

The Hutzler hire makes more sense when you add in the Memphis DC. This actually could be a good pairing.

I trust Lebby.
12-06-2023, 04:32 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Coach34

So a rookie HC and a rookie DC

For our "Top 20 program"

Just like the last regime. You were good with them. But I wasn't... and this is disappointing too.

We are Miss State!
12-06-2023, 04:35 PM
civildawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

The Hutzler hire makes more sense when you add in the Memphis DC. This actually could be a good pairing.

I trust Lebby.

The DC of Memphis that lead them to the 111th defensive ranking this year is a good pairing? Memphis is probably thanking us for taking him
12-06-2023, 04:59 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

So a rookie HC and a rookie DC

For our "Top 20 program"

Had that last year with not so great results.
12-06-2023, 05:04 PM
Really Clark?

Note that Matt Barnes had worked for years under Durkin as well and has the same backend philosophy as DJ.
12-06-2023, 05:14 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Okay. He gave him a budget that limited the pool of potential Assistants, primarily defensive related it appears, if that sounds better than handcuffing him.

State is spending money to create positions for current staff members to remain in payroll. If that is Lebby's idea, that funding would have to come out of the assistants pool. It has been acknowledged that our Administration nixed the hire of an outstanding DC and Lebby is bringing in 2 position coaches who will be co-DCs. Sounds like a money issue and Keenum IS the Administration.

Keenum doing well on our educational rating though.********
12-06-2023, 05:25 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Correct. Almost everyone believed Joe Moorhead was the home run hire of all home runs and he sucked

No. I don't think many people thought Moorhead was a home run hire. Might have overplayed that one a bit.
12-06-2023, 05:31 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Had that last year with not so great results.

Yeah but if you try it enough times, your odds of success get better?!!? *****
12-06-2023, 05:50 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

No. I don't think many people thought Moorhead was a home run hire. Might have overplayed that one a bit.

Every national media member thought it was an home run and 99% of our fan base thought we had upgraded over Mullen.
12-06-2023, 06:08 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Coach34

We have pledged to increase our football budget with off the field personnel. We havent limited the AD

The fact is no sitting HC's worth a damn really wanted the job and Durkin has a 6-7 mil payday he cant leave until they fire him. He makes 1.8MM right now- and we aint paying close to that. We cant afford that.

So I guess your new strategy is to say State sucks and it was States fault that the tuff club wrecked the car
12-06-2023, 06:22 PM
CaptainObvious

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

How to say I’m not happy about this hire and I don’t know shit about it but I will make shit up just to prove I don’t know shit.

Oh I am exuberant about these hires! They are definitely po 'ol Mississippi State Style. C34 been telling us no big name coach wants to come to Starkville to coach at the 16th wealthiest SEC program. Most of us knew it, but got that gleam in our eyes when we were told to expect Durkin. We couldn't pull Diaz, Collins or Shannon. Oh and how about those Top of the line QBs in the portal. When are they coming on board?
12-06-2023, 06:32 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Oh I am exuberant about these hires! They are definitely po 'ol Mississippi State Style. C34 been telling us no big name coach wants to come to Starkville to coach at the 16th wealthiest SEC program. Most of us knew it, but got that gleam in our eyes when we were told to expect Durkin. We couldn't pull Diaz, Collins or Shannon. Oh and how about those Top of the line QBs in the portal. When are they coming on board?

Yeah! Hell with us! If the Arnett yacht club couldn?t win here no one can
12-06-2023, 06:38 PM
Dawgface

So who will be the real DC as in calling the D during the game?
12-06-2023, 06:48 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

So I guess your new strategy is to say State sucks and it was States fault that the tuff club wrecked the car

Nahhhh just pointing out the obvious

Hiring Leach is going to be the ultimate mistake that hurts this program awhile
12-06-2023, 06:56 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Yeah! Hell with us! If the Arnett yacht club couldn?t win here no one can

won more than Leach in Y1
12-06-2023, 06:57 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Nahhhh just pointing out the obvious

Hiring Leach is going to be the ultimate mistake that hurts this program awhile

There it is. Pile it on
12-06-2023, 06:58 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Coach34

won more than Leach in Y1

Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha
12-06-2023, 06:59 PM
BuckyIsAB****

C34 probably goes home and shoots air raid sirens
12-06-2023, 07:03 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Oh I am exuberant about these hires! They are definitely po 'ol Mississippi State Style. C34 been telling us no big name coach wants to come to Starkville to coach at the 16th wealthiest SEC program. Most of us knew it, but got that gleam in our eyes when we were told to expect Durkin. We couldn't pull Diaz, Collins or Shannon. Oh and how about those Top of the line QBs in the portal. When are they coming on board?

Sir, if you are ignorant enough to believe the propaganda and other bullshit flying around you are reaping what you sow.
12-06-2023, 07:03 PM
Dogbone

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Nahhhh just pointing out the obvious

Hiring Leach is going to be the ultimate mistake that hurts this program awhile

You’ve been in a sour mood since you lost all of football buddies.
12-06-2023, 07:18 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Every national media member thought it was an home run and 99% of our fan base thought we had upgraded over Mullen.

Just don't think they were quite that effusive with 'home run' hire. Praised the hire? Yes. 'Home run'? Well, what does that even mean. Seriously, has State ever had what we would truly consider a home run hire. Probably not.
12-06-2023, 09:27 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Dogbone

You’ve been in a sour mood since you lost all of football buddies.

But I didnt. They still there
12-06-2023, 09:29 PM
Statecoachingblows**

So is this official official or message board official, I can't keep up.
12-06-2023, 09:36 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by Coach34

won more than Leach in Y1

You're just talking shit. You know Leach went 3-7 be an all SEC schedule and then beat a ranked team in the bowl game, Arnett went 1-7 vs the SEC
12-06-2023, 09:37 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by Statecoachingblows**

So is this official official or message board official, I can't keep up.

The national guys don't treat u less there's legit negotiations going on. It's not a lock yet, but it's way more legit than "message board" anything
12-06-2023, 09:42 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

You're just talking shit. You know Leach went 3-7 be an all SEC schedule and then beat a ranked team in the bowl game, Arnett went 1-7 vs the SEC

my statement was 100

We went 5-7 this year with a P5 win over a 9-3 Arizona team

Leach went 3-7 and then got a 2 point win over a G5 in a bowl game

Facts
12-06-2023, 09:46 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

I have no reason to doubt this guy is the next big thing at DC, and I have no reason to say he won't hit the ground running. But DAMN man, it would have been nice to have experience

Where is our money? We hired an OL coach that was not going to be retained at Arky, ie a guy who had no job. We hired a coach from North Texas. Gave a couple of off field staffers their first on field jobs. Hired a guy with a great resume from the Big 10. Retained a couple coaches, they probably didn't need a raise. All in all I see 1 guy who MIGHT be paid more than his predecessor. And now we hire a first time DC? We're probably saving $800K at DC vs hiring a guy who's proven. So where's that money going? All to off field staff?

Just saying. We were told the assistant coach pool got bigger, that boosters were ready to pay up to compete. I've seen zero signs of it when it comes to the coaches we hire or the NIL offer we made to DG

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