My point about Liberty is that they are absolutely loaded. If you don't know that , then well.......Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
They can compete with us on a HC salary if they choose to.
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My point about Liberty is that they are absolutely loaded. If you don't know that , then well.......Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
They can compete with us on a HC salary if they choose to.
They can pay for a new roster every year and buy out. If it doesn't work then they move on and are back on track the next yearQuote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
You are both wrong actually- I did my homework.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Kansas and State spend damn near the same on football. It's a literal lateral move except now they have a chance to win their conference and we dont
The rumor on GP is Barry Odom will be our next head coach.
Thank goodness!! That means it ain't Barry Odom!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
Interesting- the Barry Odom/Kendal Briles rumor is gaining steamQuote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
I would prefer he keep his current OC if he gets hired. They are exceptional on offense this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Not a sexy hire if it's Odom. But I'll support it. Just win
Odom is a good defensive coach. If he gets the right OC I'm 100% on board. It may not be a sexy hire but it could be a very good hire
People are going to look at his SEC time and be against it but he has reinvented himself at UNLV and running a totally different offensive scheme that is making a big difference in his success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Barry Odom wouldn't be my first choice but if it's him he's a dang good defensive coach and if you've watched his unlv teams they're offense is pretty spiffy and he has them playing well. He's matured as a HC it looks
like and he knows the sec. I don't know that it'll be him but we could do worse
This is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
Watched them the last two weeks. They are running exactly what we should be running on offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Their OC is a star. Idk why you'd go for a trash OC in Briles. He's a trash human. Has tons of baggage. And didn't even do well in his OC stint at Ark or TCU.
I really ****ing hate that we are even entertaining such shit human beings and not squashing the rumors with our mouthpieces.
I get it, football is king and winning is paramount. Kendal and Lebby aren't good enough to warrant that kind of talk. They aren't "can't miss". They're above average at best. And with the baggage, they should be an auto skip.
Do we really want to hire Missouri's reject?
A lot of us are uncomfortable hiring an Auburn reject who finished ranked 5 times in 8 years, or a Texas reject who finished ranked 3 times in 4 years, but people are fine with a guy who never finished ranked at Missouri? And on top of that, another defensive guy when there was near unanimous agreement that we need an offensive head coach?
If we were to hire Odom I would prefer he bring his current oc with him. Ive watched probably 6-7 of their games this year and I like that offenseQuote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Brennan Marion is someone I have followed for a couple of years now. His Go go offense is potentially the next big thing. There are rumors that Marion will end up at Penn State as their OC. Matt Mumme at Colorado State has taken elements of the Go Go offense and added it to Leach's old Air Raid scheme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Odom does have a good eye for offensive coaching talent it seems like.
People can say what they want about his time at Mizzou but he never had a losing season there. And he's probably a much better coach now than he was then.
I'm not exactly sure why so many MSU fans seem infatuated with Kendall Briles. At first I assumed it was because some fans thought that he could bring KJ Jefferson with him. His current OC is considered much better. I would be much more on board with Odom and Jeff Lebby honestly if I had to choose between Lebby and Briles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
His Resume is very much like Kiffin’s. He got hired for a head job too young and then went to coaching rehab at Arkansas and a G5. He’s not the same coach or running the same offense he was 5 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
They associate the name Briles with awesome offenses. None of them have probably ever heard of his current OC, who will run the most exciting offense we have ever had here. He goes up tempo A LOT and he marries the power run game with the air raid. It’s a mixture of what everyone here wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Briles is a good OC. KJ fell off a cliff without himQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
He?s solid, only issue is his redzone offense is pretty bad but otherwise KJ was a perfect fit for him. Not sure why he?s had so many struggles at TCU but I know they?ve had some QB injuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
1. KliemanQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
2. Leipold
That's my assessment of him too. Solid but that's about it. I wouldn't hate having him but I also wouldn't sell off the farm to get him.Quote:
Originally Posted by WPS
So what happens if we hire Odom and then his OC leaves after a year or 2? Doesn?t sound like there are a ton of guys out there who could run/coach his offensive styleQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
KleimanQuote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
He's my #1 at the moment
You know that's revenue right? Not athletic budget...Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Then why doesn't he bring his current OC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
He is not coming. You need to remove him off your board.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
If you want to know budgets, bookmark this page: https://knightnewhousedata.org/Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
And Liberty is private like Vandy and doesn't disclose their spending on athletics - so no one really knows.
Damn, you've convinced me. Let's roll if he brings this guy with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
So, Hugh Freeze had it made and with all the money as some say, he bolted, so why would Liberty have so a huge buyout and contract for Chadwell, asking for a friend?
Liberty may have tons of money, but they will never be a strong powerhouse unless they get into a conference bigger than what they are in. Strong conferences are made from top to bottom, not just one or two good programs. Btw, so what the Ncaa expands the playoff teams, can't see Liberty being the next Bama. Plus I can't see Liberty having a TV interest like say the Sec or Big 10 programs.
@BrunswickDawg... That is an amazing site! Thanks for sharing.
So MSU spent $29M on football in 2022 and Kansas spent $21M
ETA: $21M is the FBS median. So we are spending $8M more than your average FBS, including Kansas.
W no conference champion guarantee. That takes up almost half of the 12 now. Changes the numbers. And yeah most years we will get 3. Some 4 possibly. But it's not certainQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Because they knew that Freeze would bolt the second he built them up. But when he built them up they knew they needed to stay at that level. So they went out, hired a great HC, and made his buyout 8 figures so if someone really wanted him they would have to pay up and Liberty would have even more money to go get the next coach. They are protecting their valuable assets.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Not disagreeing, point is can they keep a good Coach. Sec has way more to offer, and yes Msu can pay a good salary when needed. I do hear Chadwell is our #1 target, pretty sure he has so many days to decide then it's time to move to plan B if he says no. Also, not so sure about the buyout, I was told not even close to $12 Million but still a little high.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I learned a little about Herman also, he is not high on list.
The problem is that the SEC median is $47m .Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
I read that and just started laughing. I don?t know where some of these people come up with this stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are correct on both points. And we have a group of boosters that has already agreed to pony up for that buyout, which you are right is not near the 12 that was reported. And there is a time limit on that offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Nobody outside knows the actual buyout. There have been multiple reports published that speculated $12 MIL +. I've seen some say as low as $4 MIL but I never posted that as I've been told it's well above that. What's the actual number? The closest I've been told is that is 8 or close to 8 figures.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I've been saying Herman wasn't high on the list since before we actually fired CZA.