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Some of this is overboard. We are 5 games in and have the record most people predicted us to have, one game off at most (USCe).
Let the season play out and let's see where we are after thanksgiving and what adjustments we've made. If we are 4-8 and lose by 30 to OM, then yea we will start over. But give the guy more than 1 month of support.
Don't forget Ed O is also available. Heard he interviews well and actually gets into his 4 point stance and goes one on one with College President or AD!***. Hail State or H*ll State?, how did we get in this mess?Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
Like what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
That was what- 7 years ago? Whittingham is now committed to Utah. We kicked the tires with him before hiring Leach. He's not interested anymoreQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
I agree, but we know there were a bunch that were never behind him just like there was bunch never behind Leach and a bunch never behind Mullen. I think the whole bunch left Moorehead pretty quick. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
It is not that we are 2-3, just here people thought we would be. It's how totally bad we have looked in those wins and loses. Have you checked our position in recruiting to boot? Our new staff's fence with its MS connections to clean up with the best players in the state is working about as well as our southern border.**. Seriously, to add, with our problems at DL, to date we have one DL commit in a loaded MS HS class for 2024. We should be cleaning up with our record of many highly paid DL in the NFL. JMO, but SMH!Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Would take him!Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
This all day. Thats all I'm doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
If we will get off our pocketbook and make a legitimate Nationwide Search, there are many good, experienced, even successful coaches at many levels, that want the chance and $ to coach in the SEC. This is true even to proof themselves and use us as stepping stone to a bigger job, (see Dan). Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Like what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
It's the way we look on the field. It's the clueless look Arnett has on the sideline. He's had a deer in the headlights look in every game but SELA. Compound that with Brad Peterson the Coach Whisperer and it's looking like a clown show that is not going to get any better this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Not just "deer in headlights look" in games, also in interviews. Of course not much impressive to comment on to date.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
And if it doesn't, fire him. I'll be all for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
But people conducting coaching searches at this point is a little much. It's not good for recruiting either.
Not really. We are 6 inches from having won 1 game. 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
This staff has taken a 9 win Vet team allowing 1 sack per 24 attempts to a team that is lost and allowing 1 sack in every 10 attempts. A defense that is lost and soft... And they did it in record time.
It's a message board.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
You know what's really not good for recruiting? The shit show we have going on right now.
Wel will see I get your point. But he was given the keys to the Corvette and hasn?t wrecked it much less dinged it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Arizona was 6 inches from a first down. Not tying the game, much less winning. We should have not been in that position but that's not true to say we were 6 inches from losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
I hear ya, just want to see him over come So Dakota and win another title or two. If you are going to drop all the way down and pick from FCS all the way up to the SEC, they had better have titles and a lot of them. I'm also cautious in picking follow-up coaches. He was the DC following Kileman at Northern Iowa. He was Klieman's DC at NDST following him as HC. He's a good coach though. Offensive guys will be a hard sell on him. Especially if he is going to run the same offense in the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick91
Jean 34 is getting to hob knob with the new staff so he will defend them till the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Outside of Will and friends, the kids don’t give a damn what is said on a message board.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Our shitshow of a coaching staff is 10x more detrimental than a message board to recruiting.
The fact that you’re arguing that just because we are 2-3 “like everyone predicted” and ignoring what lead to that record tells me all I need to know. Some folks just want to ignore reality until it smacks them right in the face.
They were inside the 30 yard line. It?s a pretty safe bet we lose that game if they get the first down there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Of course they were inside the 30, it was overtime. But it wasn't a stop at the goal line. He could have also thrown another interception, his 6th of the game. Or we stop them from scoring even if they had got that first down. Or they score but miss the extra point to tie, not win but tie, and still lose. Or miss the 2 pt for conversion to win. Its fallacy that the stop on 4th down was 6 inches from losing, it was only for first down. It's just not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
C34 could spin that and say we're one possession from being 3-2. But I won't defend our results so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
But citing sack rate for this offense be the AR would be like C34 citing that we run the ball better out of this offense. No duh. This offense runs the ball better and the AR doesn't get sacked because there is minimal to no pressure and you throw 6 yard passes a lot.
You're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Doing coaching searches for recruits to see and OM to point out to recruits isn't helpful. If ZA has a losing record and continues yo be horrible, fire him after the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
What this boils down to is making excuses for what this staff has not done. You want to play Devil's advocate. But everything from the mouths of the coaching staff is presenting the exact same message as we are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
That's from the HC down to the the OL coach that says they don;t know who they are suppose to be blocking.
Recruits don’t care.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
You are making my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Recruits care more about their NIL than what is said here. There is no problem or solution on this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
When you have nationally recognized SEC guys coming on local radio, as happened today, saying we need to push the panic button b/c Arnett is obviously in over his head then it's way past this board.
Slow clap!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
You obviously haven't read my posts on the last several threads. But carry on.Quote:
Originally Posted by CoachT14
What you just wrote has nothing to do with you trying to push that we were 6" from a loss. You are just making up a situation in which a possible first down, not even a score, by a team behind a TD some how equals them scoring and winning the game on that play. It's a falsehood agenda you are trying to push to make a bad start to the season...bad??? Its already bad, you don't make up a situation to make it bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
The staff has done poor and I've said that many times. The players have not executed. That's on them as well. Including our QB and all the players. But 6 inches away from a loss...that's just not true.
It wasn?t overtime yet it was very late in the 4th quarter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
What are you smoking? You talking the 3rd down and 1 when we dropped him for a loss and kicked a FG to tie?? How is a 1 yard loss making it 4th and 2 the same as 6 inches from a loss? They were 20 yards away not 6 inches from the goal line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
I can tell you first hand that's not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by CoachT14
Not saying it matters more than anything else though.
It was in OT because it was after Pittman scored the TD. However, everyone in that stadium and watching on TV knew that if they hadn't reversed the call AZ would have tied it then with very high probability would have won it in 2nd OTQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
He clearly stated it wasn't in OT, it was late in the 4th. That's why I posted what I did and honestly wasn't even sure what he was alluding to. That was the only play I could think of late in 4th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha
Everybody in the stands and at home clearly knew he was short. I can't remember but thought they called him short and they confirmed it on review, not reversed it. May be wrong.
And no matter what we think might have happened, it wasn't that we were 6 inches away from a loss. A first down at the 15 is not the same as stopping a team at the goal on 4th and that score wins it. Not the same and it's just dishonest to say it was. Mullen was a yard away from beating LSU his first year, that play would be a true statement. A possible first down at the 15 is not 6 inches from a loss. He was just as likely to throw another INT like he had all night and had just done 2 series before in the 4th.
High probability???? Even though they were behind by 7?? Not sure where your math degree comes from but......Quote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha
How about Kline from Kansas State?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
It's a stupid agenda talking point that's popped up all of sudden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I swear we have people that would be happier if we lost se their agendas would be met. Holy hellQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?