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Originally Posted by msstate7
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Right ... same thing****Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Name the 4. Bc at some point you are going to rail on them too. So go on they record of who the 4 areQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Bc he wasn't air raid. We knowQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Yeah bc the air raid runs a ton of pistol w play action that runs a post.... glad Will "fixed " it for us. Talk about gullibleQuote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Yeah all of our big pass plays came off play action from pistol, definitely not a staple of air raid offenses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Don't ruin it for the 3 clownsQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Yea ... we definitely have big time D problems. But we gained only 200 yds at home against LSU while Arky lit them up for 426 yds (289 pass/137 rush) and 25 1st downs in Death Valley. KJ was 21-31 for 9.3 yds per attempt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
And we also sucked against AZ. We probably played one of the bottom 4 Ds in the SEC this past weekend. So I'm not ready to say we don't have offensive problems just yet.
And besides ... we only RTDFB for 32 yds at 1.4/att. Yet this staff gets a pass on RTDFB? WTF LOL SMDH.
Yea ... I'm betting you and the home boys are pretty tight **
We get zero pressure on the QB. That's the bigger issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And we are awful against mobile QB's. Which is probably why our fans covet them so much.
Also- Arkansas has a new OC as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
My biggest issue personally is just the misleading statements to the fans. If you want to be pro style Spreadahan- fine. But don't tell me we're not moving far away from the Air Raid and then run what we are, that we're going to play our best 11 and then throw a freshman o-line prospect and Goede out there at TE while Creed sits because he has to rotate with Tulu.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
And then on top of it- we're struggling on both sides of the ball.
But because this group of coaches isn't doing anything that they said that they would- it's not going to buy them a lot of grace from fans and boosters. Especially with the program struggling.
Agree with Todd. For me it is the public statements that then do not add up. That has lost me this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
CZA said a couple weeks ago to SEC network guys that his defense was on the field too much the last couple of years....... So I looked it up.
2021 - we were 7th in the nation in time of possession.
2022 - we were around 55 in time of possession.
2023- so far, before hitting the SEC full season, we are 123 in the nation.
He knew those stats from the last 2 years, and just threw out BS comments instead of saying "I simply changed my mind"
In this video linked, We ran Air Raid concepts. Period. Everything from the wide splits to no TE. Nobody ever stated that we ran exclusively that. In fact, the OP clearly talks about 11 personnel. Way to be over the top though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
The only clown I see is the one demanding that we stated all we ran was Air Raid Concepts. Nobody stated that but you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
So does ColoradoQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Data dump: courtesy of @jbuddavis
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7CI7VBW...name=4096x4096
I gotta spread some rep around before giving to 4 again. Rookie staff in over head on and off the field it appears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
It's actually 5, because Mele is doing a good job. Forgot about him. The problem is at OC as much as anything. DC isn't good, and he'll, he got bumped by Leach. Our recruiting/development on defense has been terrible. At least Turner has 22 playing big. We're wearing out Juco recruiting now to fill all the holes. And we kept our staff mostly on that side. It's a big pile of crap. If you can't see it, oh well. You're one of the few. You're an insider. You know there's problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
So does Georgia.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
So does WKU
So does tulsa.
And all 3 of these have had pretty big drops offensively
I'm not an Air Raid guy at all. I just want a competent OC who isn't running his limited ass offense with players that have no business being on the roster at TE. It's not working. We've got the personnel from the AR. If you can't be flexible enough to get the best players out there, you suck. It is til game 4 to look remotely competent after sitting down with our QB to talk. Should've happen a month ago or more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
That's just massively wrong. UGA lost a crap ton of people included a 15 year starting QB. And he's completing 72% . They are ranked 13th in the nation on offense. That's not a massive drop off.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Tulsa has played the #8 ranked team and the 19th ranked teams. Sure thing, when 50% of your games as a AAC school is against top 20 teams, early stats will down. But there is a whole season. WKU in the same boat. They scored 4 less points on OSU than ND!
They also don't look lost on their blocking like we do.
Man, go on and preach! Truth!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Wku had 288 yds vs USA last weekQuote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Tulsa had 281 yds vs northern Illinois last week
As awful as we've been, we are ahead of both in total offense.
Georgia has played Ball State, UT-Martin and UAB. They scored 24 on SC who we just laid 30 on. Georgia's O will not be what it was the last few seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Tulsa will not be some offensive juggernaut this season no matter who they play
WK got to play the whole 2nd half against OSU's back-ups and still failed to score. ND didnt get that luxury.
Leach put 6 points on Bama last year. That'a pretty high bar to meet Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Picking just one game out of 12 to prove a point?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
WKU averaging 367 yards per game, and that is with playing OSU. Who knows what type of let down they had the following week(last week).
We are averaging 388 yards per game , and against 3 teams with the weakest defenses we will face all season.
Where do you think we are headed in the month of October and November?
So by saying we are ahead of them.... it is by 21 yards a game, and we played 3 games against really bad defenses.
Leach won us 9 games with the same average QB as last season also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
And that's about all Leach ever scored against them. Only touchdown I believe??Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
How many games and TDs have any MSU coach scored against Bama in 15 years, not including garbage time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Throw out osu and wku is at 395.3 ypg, which would put them at 69th in the country. They were at 497.7 ypg (7th nationally) last year. Oh and that includes an fcs opponent. BTW, they played USA last year, and they got 677 total yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Are you really trying to see wku as anything but down offensively?
I would say we avg'd more than the previous 12 years than the last 3, which is 5.3 per gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
A) Leach won 8 games. Arnett coached the bowl game and got the 9th win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
B) Leach had Forbes (who scored 3 TD's for us), Wheat, and some good safeties that had us 7th in the SEC and 40th in the country last season. We dont have that this season.
C) As others have mentioned- 2 just had his best day as a QB this past Saturday. That terrible D of SC held Georgia to 24 points.
Defense is way more a problem for this football team than offense.
That is big time then ***Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I saw stats from Robbie that the average margin of loss to Bama by us and Ole Miss is the same spread. Ole miss gave up more points to them each game but scored more. We scored less but gave up less.
That's not even the topic. You said they are having a massive drop off in offense. They are not. They simply played ranked teams who out recruit them by alot. They also have a New QB and RB at Tulsa. etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
MS ST has the most returning starters and VET team we have had. If you can't teach the system, don't run it.
Leach won 8 games last year. That defense bailed him out a lot. We don't have that defense now. The OL hasn't handled actually having to block people without a drop 8 looking at them. And let's be honest, they struggled blocking 3 and 4 guys routinely last few years in the AR. Leach played ball control and let his defense work. There were no big plays. Will had more big plays last week than in 3 years with Leach. Now, we've got no defensive talent and no OL and no TE. The AR would help some with the OL and getting the ball out. That's about it. We need our OC to show he can adjust. SC filled up the box and we burned them. When they stopped doing that, we stopped scoring. I'll stop there too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Surprising since the AR equals the field in talentQuote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
And has nothing to do with a change of OC but a change in QB and key players that either graduated. That's both UGA and Tulsa!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Defense is a problem but the offense is a big concern. We are averaging 388 yards per game and against the easiest stretch of teams of a 4 game stretch we will see all season. We are 126 in the nation in time of possession.....which Arnett used as an excuse of going against his public comments on not changing much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Against Arizona they gifted us short field for an entire half and we could not do much with it.
The OL has been a top 2 or 3 rated line in the SEC the past 2 years. Every advanced statistic showed they were one of the best teams in not allowing pressure or sacks considering how much they were pass blocking. But yeah sure all those stats are wrong. It's the same line basically with a bad OC and bad OL coaches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Do you think facing 3 dlinemen and rarely any blitzes could skew those stats?Quote:
Originally Posted by CoachT14