We are not lighting it up in recruiting

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Has there ever been a year when folks weren't concerned about recruiting? I can't remember one and we always wind up with the same #20-30 ranked class. Hey at least we're consistent. The same stories, same rumors and same concerns are voiced on here every year, we could just put them on replay and it'd be the same. I used to get worked up about recruiting but I've passed that stage. Would I like us to have a top 5 class every year? You bet! But I'm also a realist. Zach is not gonna be outworked and we're going to be ok

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Except for the 45th and 46th ranked recruiting classes of Dan Mullen that turned into the #1 team in the nation a few years later.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

LOL, Yeah great post! It's like being a farmer, there's either to much rain or not enough, to much sun or not enough!

Have some rep!

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Ha! Awesome!

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Ha! Awesome!

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My Papaw was a farmer and he used to say that all the time, lol! Great memories and experiences growing up with that man! He ran a large farm and was one of Joe Franks first chicken farmers. He didn't do to bad for a man who had to drop out of school as a teenager and go to work during the depression to help his family survive.

It?s hard to accept the fact that we had an offensive genius who had more of an effect on how offense is played than anyone in the past 25 years, and we now have a numbskull who thinks you have to establish the running game.

According to article posted on sixpack today, we have signed kicker Ethan Chang from William & Mary, 18 of 24 on FG with a 2022 record of 57 yds long. Only have to get it to the opponents 40 yd line to have a chance to score , KB21!*****. Hail State!

Speaking of numbskull, it's "affect". Surprised you didn't use "except" for accept, but you got that one right. Congrats.

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Speaking of numbskull, it's "affect". Surprised you didn't use "except" for accept, but you got that one right. Congrats.

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That "numbskull" was actually an academic All-American back in his playing days...he probably knows how to fix the question mark/apostrophe issue on sports message boards as well.

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Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely

That "numbskull" was actually an academic All-American back in his playing days...he probably knows how to fix the question mark/apostrophe issue on sports message boards as well.

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That is annoying isn't it... I mean isn?t it. I?m such a looser.***

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

That is annoying isn't it... I mean isn?t it. I?m such a looser.***

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How do you give somebody "rep" on the mobile site again? ****



...but seriously, how do you? ...asking for a friend

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Originally Posted by KB21

It?s hard to accept the fact that we had an offensive genius who had more of an effect on how offense is played than anyone in the past 25 years, and we now have a numbskull who thinks you have to establish the running game.

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i suggest you contact CZA and dump your unlimited supply of bull shit opinion right on his head. think of the NIL monies from tickets sales to watch him beat the dawg shit out of you.

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

This time last year we had 3 commits who actually have now signed -
Malik Ellis (3 star); Ty Jones (3 Star), and Joseph Head (3 Star)

Y'all act like we've spent the past decade loading up on early 4 & 5 star recruits. We are exactly where we normally are this time of year. We will likely pick up 3-4 more over the next few weeks, then Summer camps start the flurry of commits.
But, I guess like clock work we have to freak out about something.

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Thanks for a very good post to rebutt the chicken little's.

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Originally Posted by Percho

Thanks for a very good post to rebutt the chicken little's.

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Brunswick is good for that. One of the best on this board... which is boosted because he doesn't usually join the melt on the game threads.

And I apologize... I usually laugh at when y'all engage KB/BSails because it just encourages them to keep posting the same rhetoric over and over, but here I am... lolz!

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

In the game with most of them. How in the game will remain to be seen. Waller seems to be the one we are most out on. I judge this by the fact that Rosebowl and Paul Jones are both trying to diminish him. Usually an OM tactic but I guess they are trying it out for their flock now.

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I thought most on this board had come to the realization that Paul and especially Rosie ain't getting no inside info anymore. Remember the OC search???

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Originally Posted by KB21

It?s hard to accept the fact that we had an offensive genius who had more of an effect on how offense is played than anyone in the past 25 years, and we now have a numbskull who thinks you have to establish the running game.

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Ok Crissy....that's enough....

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I thought most on this board had come to the realization that Paul and especially Rosie ain't getting no inside info anymore. Remember the OC search???

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About as good as the "insiders" on this board. But then again, this site is free, so...

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Originally Posted by KB21

It?s hard to accept the fact that we had an offensive genius who had more of an effect on how offense is played than anyone in the past 25 years, and we now have a numbskull who thinks you have to establish the running game.

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Yea Kirby established that and tanked the UGA program. He lost a game.....in two years. Also strangely enough, guess when the Leach offense worked best. This is gonna blow your mind....it was when we established the F'N RUN.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Yea Kirby established that and tanked the UGA program. He lost a game.....in two years. Also strangely enough, guess when the Leach offense worked best. This is gonna blow your mind....it was when we established the F'N RUN.

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Umm... are you comparing our future offensive mindset with UGA's?? Lolz... If the genius KSmart came to MSU tomorrow and brought his well bought team and well bought staff, then yeah, that'd be an equal conversation. We've been a "running" team like Bama and Georgia for much of our existence and we've won what??? But hey, I'm on board as usual... guess I'm a glutton.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Yea Kirby established that and tanked the UGA program. He lost a game.....in two years. Also strangely enough, guess when the Leach offense worked best. This is gonna blow your mind....it was when we established the F'N RUN.

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And Kirby still doesn’t run enough to satisfy the UGA faithful. They all pine for the days of RTDB and having multiple 1000 yard backs.

Georgia throws the ball to build a lead and runs late.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Georgia throws the ball to build a lead and runs late.

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Must be why they have Tight Ends**

Those Brock Bowers types are easy to find.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Georgia throws the ball to build a lead and runs late.

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then go root for them you rebel cocksucking idiot!

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Originally Posted by KB21

Those Brock Bowers types are easy to find.

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Bet you thought teddy knox was a great get huh??

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Originally Posted by KB21

It?s hard to accept the fact that we had an offensive genius who had more of an effect on how offense is played than anyone in the past 25 years, and we now have a numbskull who thinks you have to establish the running game.

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Look dude, nobody wanted CML to die. But his offense wasn't taking us anywhere. And he was a terrible recruiter. Fact

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Originally Posted by KB21

Georgia throws the ball to build a lead and runs late.

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Right ....

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Originally Posted by KB21

Those Brock Bowers types are easy to find.

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I love how you totally ignored Clark proving you wrong that Utah had a better passing offense than we did.

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Originally Posted by msu15

I love how you totally ignored Clark proving you wrong that Utah had a better passing offense than we did.

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That's what he does. He talks until you have point that make him shut up and he ignores it. And I didn't even see what you were talking about but I've seen it before. Often

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

That's what he does. He talks until you have point that make him shut up and he ignores it. And I didn't even see what you were talking about but I've seen it before. Often

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I haven?t been proven wrong on anything. In fact, seeing how much this offense struggled in the spring game should send up red flags.

Mike Leach would have had this offense in the top 15-20 just like he had at both Texas Tech and Washington State. Some are going to continue to fabricate lies about his coaching like what you said above.

Go on thinking that a pro style system that force feeds the running game is better for this team.

I’ve never seen someone so upset about a team getting away from an offense that ranked near the bottom of the conference every single year we ran it at Mississippi State. This bit is getting old.

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Umm... are you comparing our future offensive mindset with UGA's?? Lolz... If the genius KSmart came to MSU tomorrow and brought his well bought team and well bought staff, then yeah, that'd be an equal conversation. We've been a "running" team like Bama and Georgia for much of our existence and we've won what??? But hey, I'm on board as usual... guess I'm a glutton.

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We did try to hire Mike Bobo.**

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

We have one of the lowest recruiting budgets in the group of 5. The lowest recruiting budget in the SEC excluding Vandy. Ole Miss recruiting budget is 3 times our budget. Our NIL is the lowest in the SEC and we spend the majority of our NIL keeping players on our roster.

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This is the real reason. It befuddles me when people act like this is not the cause of our recruitment troubles.

I still think selling tickets to raise NIL money with a KB21 vs CZA sit down would be immensely popular.

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Originally Posted by KB21

I haven?t been proven wrong on anything. In fact, seeing how much this offense struggled in the spring game should send up red flags.

Mike Leach would have had this offense in the top 15-20 just like he had at both Texas Tech and Washington State. Some are going to continue to fabricate lies about his coaching like what you said above.

Go on thinking that a pro style system that force feeds the running game is better for this team.

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The stats don't lie sweetheart. We will all miss Mike Leach. He invented the wheel and then everyone else went and invented cars while we were still using a cupboard wagon.

But I love how you'll use the argument that we would have been top 20 this year where that will never be provable so you'll just scream it to high heavens.

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Originally Posted by Pancho

I still think selling tickets to raise NIL money with a KB21 vs CZA sit down would be immensely popular.

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I say we offer all members of all boards the opportunity to pay $50 and every donation puts KB on the hot corner and Dakota gets 5 swings at him?.oh and he has no glove. We would raise millions

Hell at this point I would make a one time donation to the BI on top of my monthly donation just so he will leave our fan base

he is a closet racist, shark weak fanboy

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Originally Posted by KB21

Mike Leach would have had this offense in the top 15-20 just like he had at both Texas Tech and Washington State. Some are going to continue to fabricate lies about his coaching like what you said above.

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I mean claiming that he would have had us as a top 20 offense in the country when in 2022:

8th in the SEC in yards per game and 8th in points per game

In 2021

7th in the SEC in yards per game and 10th in points per game

in 2020

12th in the SEC in yards per game and 13th in points per game.

Claiming that he would have us 15-20 in year 4 with zero evidence at our school to prove it is kind of silly. Look you can like Coach Leach (I'm not sure of anyone that didn't like CML) and think that his offense wasn't really working. That is an ok opinion. You are not disrespecting his legacy.

To be clear MSU's defense was 5th in 2022, 4th in 2021 and 5th in 2020 in yds per game given up. It is hard to argue that Leach's offense carried the day based on stats. Its also hard to argue it if you had eyes and were objective.

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Originally Posted by YazooDawg23

The stats don't lie sweetheart. We will all miss Mike Leach. He invented the wheel and then everyone else went and invented cars while we were still using a cupboard wagon.

But I love how you'll use the argument that we would have been top 20 this year where that will never be provable so you'll just scream it to high heavens.

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You are right. The stats done lie. Mike took Washington State from the 108th best scoring offense in 2012 to being top 20 in three of his last four years there. In 2019, Washington State had the 11th best scoring offense in the country. He had Mississippi State on the same trend. 109th in 2020, 60 in 21, 43 in 22.

I have no doubts that had we promoted Drew or hired Ben Arbuckle that the trend would have continued. With Barbay, we will take a massive step backwards.

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Originally Posted by KB21

You are right. The stats done lie. Mike took Washington State from the 108th best scoring offense in 2012 to being top 20 in three of his last four years there. In 2019, Washington State had the 11th best scoring offense in the country. He had Mississippi State on the same trend. 109th in 2020, 60 in 21, 43 in 22.

I have no doubts that had we promoted Drew or hired Ben Arbuckle that the trend would have continued. With Barbay, we will take a massive step backwards.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTVdybPfBag

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Originally Posted by KB21

It?s hard to accept the fact that we had an offensive genius who had more of an effect on how offense is played than anyone in the past 25 years, and we now have a numbskull who thinks you have to establish the running game.

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Dude, seriously, quit being a dick.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I say we offer all members of all boards the opportunity to pay $50 and every donation puts KB on the hot corner and Dakota gets 5 swings at him?.oh and he has no glove. We would raise millions

Hell at this point I would make a one time donation to the BI on top of my monthly donation just so he will leave our fan base

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Yeah, we are gonna have to be inventive/smart about how we do the NIL thing or we will be middle to lower tier SEC program in every sport