OC Hot Board Version 3-Let's Try This Again

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

This is what is being said is a partial list:

1- Mark Whipple.
2- Mike Bobo
3- Jim Chaney
4- Chris Hatcher
5- Shannon Dawson



Hoping Arnett is not in over his head. Want him to be the man, but Bo figgin Bo?? Really? Whipple?

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If we hire Mike Bobo I'm going to break shit

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

This is what is being said is a partial list:

1- Mark Whipple.
2- Mike Bobo
3- Jim Chaney
4- Chris Hatcher
5- Shannon Dawson



Hoping Arnett is not in over his head. Want him to be the man, but Bo figgin Bo?? Really? Whipple?

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Yeah that's not a good list. Hatcher is probably the best one of the bunch. Whipple had 1 outstanding year at Pitt but the QB wasn't bad either. Haha

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Didn't Georgia fans once say "Bobo has to go go?"

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YES! This is crazzy talk! Noway. Mark Whipple? Mark John Whipple is an American football coach, who most recently served as offensive coordinator at Nebraska in 2022.

Chaney?

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

This is what is being said is a partial list:

1- Mark Whipple.
2- Mike Bobo
3- Jim Chaney
4- Chris Hatcher
5- Shannon Dawson



Hoping Arnett is not in over his head. Want him to be the man, but Bo figgin Bo?? Really? Whipple?

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The first three shouldn't be on anyone's list. Oh well.......

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Originally Posted by Bark

We can't get Kittley but what about the guys that replaced him?

I know he just took the WSU OC job but would Arbuckle listen to us?

What about Bryan Ellis at Georgia Southern? Was co-offensive coordinator at Western Kentucky with Kittley. In year 1 he has Georgia Southern in the top 20 offenses in the nation. 1 spot ahead of Kittley and Texas Tech. The number 4 passing team in the nation.

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I can not be convinced that we can not hire arbuckle, Dawson, Hatcher, or many others when we are offering Briles that much and massive control!

Either our HC is in over his head, or nuts. Want to talk about empty seats in the stands. Hire Bobo. Chaney. WHIPPLE!!!

It made me physically ill having to look up credentials on Bobo, Whipple, and Chaney. If that's the direction that we are going then we are moving as far away from the Air Raid as humanly possible. We'll be back to 3 yds and punt with Chaney and Bobo. Hatcher and Dawson at least give me a little hope.

If anyone had any amazing offenses in their NCAA dynasties I'll be more than happy to add you to the list as well. Your resume will look a lot better than those 3.

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

Idk why so many people on here are against paying top dollar for a proven OC

Ole miss is paying 9 million for a head coach
LSU 9.5
A&M 9
Alabama 12 or so
Auburn 6.5

Etc etc

We have a first time head coach that we promoted that we are giving him a chance that he would not have had anywhere else to be a sec head coach

We are paying him 3 million

If we are going to compete we are going to have to get him some help by bringing in a proven OC that can handle the offense , you will have to pay 2 million or above to get that and that would be fine because Zach will earn his money as a head coach if he does good he will be given annual raises

Even then that does not come anywhere near 9 million

I?m tired of the poor ole Mississippi state mindset

I like Zach and think he?s going to do great but shit.

Also anyone that thinks promoting Mason miller to OC is mentally retarded.

If Mike leach , who has called plays for 30+ years and had been a head coach for over 20 , couldn?t get this offense to scoring points on good sec defenses.

What the hell do you think his Offensive Line coach would do?

Give me a break.

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$2 million should be the max and for the right OC but $2.5 million is unreal. Doesn't matter if you have the money or not. Is any OC better than Monken? Because he doesn't make $2.5 million . Close but not there.

If I was AD and Arnett walked in and said "I want to hire Bobo, Whipple, or Chaney", my response would be...."then I want to fire you".


Oh yeah, we don't have an AD.


This is turning into a shit sandwich quick

I'm ready to fire Arnett if that list is legit.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

:rolleyes: Get Hatcher now then.

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Yeah he's the best name on that list and has an impressive record.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

It made me physically ill having to look up credentials on Bobo, Whipple, and Chaney. If that's the direction that we are going then we are moving as far away from the Air Raid as humanly possible. We'll be back to 3 yds and punt with Chaney and Bobo. Hatcher and Dawson at least give me a little hope.

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I was just go with Hatcher and call it a day. Dern!!! What a list. Hatcher is way above anybody on that list. I wonder why Johns isn't on it?

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

I was just go with Hatcher and call it a day. Dern!!! What a list. I wonder why Johns isn't on it?

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Yeah Johns to me is better than that list

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I'm ready to fire Arnett if that list is legit.

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Steve did say that it's not an all inclusive list. People were asking him for names so he checked around and got some. And let me be perfectly honest, I'm going to bet a decent amount of money that Jimmy The Snake represents every one of those guys. I'd also bet you an equal amount that is who was feeding Rosebowl his info for Briles.

Of that list I would go with Dawson. I doubt Arnett calls for my advice tho.

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

Idk why so many people on here are against paying top dollar for a proven OC

Ole miss is paying 9 million for a head coach
LSU 9.5
A&M 9
Alabama 12 or so
Auburn 6.5

Etc etc

We have a first time head coach that we promoted that we are giving him a chance that he would not have had anywhere else to be a sec head coach

We are paying him 3 million

If we are going to compete we are going to have to get him some help by bringing in a proven OC that can handle the offense , you will have to pay 2 million or above to get that and that would be fine because Zach will earn his money as a head coach if he does good he will be given annual raises

Even then that does not come anywhere near 9 million

I?m tired of the poor ole Mississippi state mindset

I like Zach and think he?s going to do great but shit.

Also anyone that thinks promoting Mason miller to OC is mentally retarded.

If Mike leach , who has called plays for 30+ years and had been a head coach for over 20 , couldn?t get this offense to scoring points on good sec defenses.

What the hell do you think his Offensive Line coach would do?

Give me a break.

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And you are biggest dumbass on this message board, which is saying something. Have your not actually check the stats on Miller?s offenses he led?

And let?s address your comment of on what other teams are paying their coaches:

Bama and A&M- HA. We don?t have a bank roll like either of them. We have some wealthy individuals but they have groups of twenty of them. Also look at their enrollment compared to ours. Means more future wealthy alumni.

Auburn-Well Tim Cook, Bobby Lowder, and Jimmy are loaded. They are now all in on what it takes.

OM-Overpaying $9MM for a good play caller that wants out. I?m glad they?ve committed that much because it?s taking up funds from other sports and their NIL.

Glad we figured out we could divert to get good assistants and use other funds to go get good players. As CZA says, players make the scheme. This just further proves my point-you are the biggest DA on this board, which in fact, is saying something.

I may be wrong- I just dont see any way Hatcher becomes an Asst after 22 years of being a HC

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

It made me physically ill having to look up credentials on Bobo, Whipple, and Chaney. If that's the direction that we are going then we are moving as far away from the Air Raid as humanly possible. We'll be back to 3 yds and punt with Chaney and Bobo. Hatcher and Dawson at least give me a little hope.

If anyone had any amazing offenses in their NCAA dynasties I'll be more than happy to add you to the list as well. Your resume will look a lot better than those 3.

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I'm at a loss for words! WTH!

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Steve did say that it's not an all inclusive list. People were asking him for names so he checked around and got some. And let me be perfectly honest, I'm going to bet a decent amount of money that Jimmy The Snake represents every one of those guys. I'd also bet you an equal amount that is who was feeding Rosebowl his info for Briles.

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And I 100% believe our young HC got played by his own agent!

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

Idk why so many people on here are against paying top dollar for a proven OC

Ole miss is paying 9 million for a head coach
LSU 9.5
A&M 9
Alabama 12 or so
Auburn 6.5

Etc etc

We have a first time head coach that we promoted that we are giving him a chance that he would not have had anywhere else to be a sec head coach

We are paying him 3 million

If we are going to compete we are going to have to get him some help by bringing in a proven OC that can handle the offense , you will have to pay 2 million or above to get that and that would be fine because Zach will earn his money as a head coach if he does good he will be given annual raises

Even then that does not come anywhere near 9 million

I?m tired of the poor ole Mississippi state mindset

I like Zach and think he?s going to do great but shit.

Also anyone that thinks promoting Mason miller to OC is mentally retarded.

If Mike leach , who has called plays for 30+ years and had been a head coach for over 20 , couldn?t get this offense to scoring points on good sec defenses.

What the hell do you think his Offensive Line coach would do?

Give me a break.

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Then who do you suggest that is realistic? We're all throwing names out here and no name is stupid. Hell I put Art Briles in a category by himself.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

If I was AD and Arnett walked in and said "I want to hire Bobo, Whipple, or Chaney", my response would be...."then I want to fire you".


Oh yeah, we don't have an AD.


This is turning into a shit sandwich quick

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You don?t think the same people who were ?advising? on Bumphis aren?t advising on this?

Dawson makes the most sense. He was at USM with Jay..

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Originally Posted by Dawgface

Of that list I would go with Dawson. I doubt Arnett calls for my advice tho.

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I don't understand the about face. Going to swing for the fence with Briles (totally set up by sexton) but cant reach out to Arbuckle because he just was hired at WSU? What? TAMU hired Petrino from UNLV 1 month after he was hired there.

Don't tell me we can not do better than Bobo, Whimple...etc.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Then who do you suggest that is realistic? We're all throwing names out here and no name is stupid. Hell I put Art Briles in a category by himself.

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Ah Steve, he still believes Alex Adams is the next coming of Jerry Rice and if Joe were our OC, Alex would transfer in and just show us how good those Pike County boys are!

First 3 are probably Sexton guys and he?s trying to get them paid. I went from excited as hell at 5:00 today to now IDGAF. But if we hire any of the first 3, we are fu$&ed.

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

And you are biggest dumbass on this message board, which is saying something. Have your not actually check the stats on Miller?s offenses he led?

And let?s address your comment of on what other teams are paying their coaches:

Bama and A&M- HA. We don?t have a bank roll like either of them. We have some wealthy individuals but they have groups of twenty of them. Also look at their enrollment compared to ours. Means more future wealthy alumni.

Auburn-Well Tim Cook, Bobby Lowder, and Jimmy are loaded. They are now all in on what it takes.

OM-Overpaying $9MM for a good play caller that wants out. I?m glad they?ve committed that much because it?s taking up funds from other sports and their NIL.

Glad we figured out we could divert to get good assistants and use other funds to go get good players. As CZA says, players make the scheme. This just further proves my point-you are the biggest DA on this board, which in fact, is saying something.

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If you think Mason miller will be better than Mike leach was, you sir are the biggest dumbass on this board.

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

You don?t think the same people who were ?advising? on Bumphis aren?t advising on this?

Dawson makes the most sense. He was at USM with Jay..

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Was at USM with Jay, NMSU with Mumme, and WVU and Houston with Dana. Also played at Millsaps.

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

If you think Mason miller will be better than Mike leach was, you sir are the biggest dumbass on this board.

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Please tell me where I said he would be better. I will wait.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

This is what is being said is a partial list:

1- Mark Whipple.
2- Mike Bobo
3- Jim Chaney
4- Chris Hatcher
5- Shannon Dawson



Hoping Arnett is not in over his head. Want him to be the man, but Bo figgin Bo?? Really? Whipple?

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I knew people were going to melt, but shi* this list will do it! KB made our nuts shrivel up to raisins!!!

If we're throwing shit against the wall, what's the story on Josh Henson at USC? Making $750k and has spent a year as OC under Riley and was at A&M and Oklahoma State prior.

I admittedly know absolutely nothing about the guy, but if we want a high flying modified Air Raid offense, USC has it.

I know Riley is the real OC, but obviously he is decent or those programs don't hire him, right? $750k seems like a bargain

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

Please tell me where I said he would be better. I will wait.

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So you are saying that he?s worse than leach?

So you are saying we should expect a even worse offense next season?

Aren?t we trying to improve the offense which has been the biggest problem with the team since Dan Mullen left ?

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Was at USM with Jay, NMSU with Mumme, and WVU and Houston with Dana. Also played at Millsaps.

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Yeah but fired at Kentucky and USM offenses were not exactly lighting CUSA on fire.

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

If you think Mason miller will be better than Mike leach was, you sir are the biggest dumbass on this board.

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Where did anyone say Mason Miller would be better than Mike Leach, THE INVENTOR OF THE 17 OFFENSE. I don't think Bank said that. Now again, if you think Mason is such a bad hire, who would you hire? I'll add him to the board. There's no bad names worse than Whipple, Bobo, or Chaney. So don't be afraid to throw some out.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Yeah but fired at Kentucky and USM offenses were not exactly lighting CUSA on fire.

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And Hatcher was fired at Murray St. and Kevin Johns was fired at Indiana and Texas Tech. Perfect candidates don't exist at this point in the process.

Andrew Sowder is still available. Better than Bobo and Chaney

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

I knew people were going to melt, but shi* this list will do it! KB made our nuts shrivel up to raisins!!!

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I honestly can't see a young energetic guy like Arnett wanting to hire some of the old relics on that list. I'd be shocked if he hired whipple, chaney or bobo, but heck with what happened today who knows. Zach's honeymoon will be over quick if he hires one of those 3, and admittedly that was just a pretty much thrown together list by Steve.

I'd rather let fans send in plays live during the game than hire Mike Bobo. Just pass around the Madden controller through the stands

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'd rather let fans send in plays live during the game than hire Mike Bobo. Just pass around the Madden controller through the stands

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I can't give you anymore rep!

I love how we went from "CZA aint playing" to "I want to fire Arnett"

I am willing to bet he makes a solid hire. It may not be the flashiest, but I trust that he will make a good hire. If it ends up being Chaney or Bobo, then sure. You guys will be right. I just don't think that happens at all.

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

Aren?t we trying to improve the offense which has been the biggest problem with the team since Dan Mullen left ?

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Ok.....so who would you hire? You've yet to answer the question.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Then who do you suggest that is realistic? We're all throwing names out here and no name is stupid. Hell I put Art Briles in a category by himself.

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Just throwing a name out there. Major Applewhite. At So Alabama now as OC. Lots of experience.