Arnett Named next MSU Coach - 4 Year Deal to be signed.

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12-14-2022, 06:03 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

Mullen was an emotional hire? what made that so? Damn that?s news to me

Dude? Are you drinking? Who said anything about an emotional hire? Wasn't in the post I replied to. You said we succumbed to our pecking order. His resume is very similar to Mullen's when we hired him.
12-14-2022, 06:03 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

All of these difficult days and we haven't even discussed the Murphy trade

I'll bump that thread tonight. I've run this thread off the rails. I like the trade though
12-14-2022, 06:04 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Yeah 7 is just a straight shooter(accept in his man love for jimbo,lol). He knows his stuff stat wise. He's a great poster.

I agree with this. He's a good dude.
12-14-2022, 06:04 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

Interesting take

Most people think Leach was grooming Arnette for this day. Obviously not today, but I think he was getting a HC job here or somewhere else soon. I don't think this was an emotional decision.
12-14-2022, 06:06 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by GoDawgz

According to the twitters.
Steve twitting "The Arnett era begins in Starkville"

I think it's a great move. He's certainly got plenty of enthusiasm, so why go to another school and bring in one of their coordinators? Just use our own. Congrats to him. Might need an OC though.
12-14-2022, 06:09 PM
EdwardDrayton

100% behind Arnett but will say, if I'm the AD, thinking I'm not handling it this way. Not so much making Arnett the HC but the timing. Maybe make him interim and then after the bowl game, name him HC. Find it puzzling we jump to a HC announcement so quickly.
12-14-2022, 06:09 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

I agree with this. He's a good dude.

Yep, he is!
12-14-2022, 06:11 PM
shoeless joe

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

All of these difficult days and we haven't even discussed the Murphy trade

Or the fact that another organization linchpin will walk
12-14-2022, 06:12 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Man, appreciate it.

I'm gonna have to post a hot take to get to arguing again haha

You're welcome. Always appreciate your posts even the ones I don't agree with, lol!
12-14-2022, 06:12 PM
Dawgface

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

100% behind Arnett but will say, if I'm the AD, thinking I'm not handling it this way. Not so much making Arnett the HC but the timing. Maybe make him interim and then after the bowl game, name him HC. Find it puzzling we jump to a HC announcement so quickly.

The staff, current players and recruits could possibly start looking elsewhere not knowing who the permanent HC would be.
12-14-2022, 06:42 PM
Lord McBuckethead

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Completely different dynamic. Even Saban has a DC.

Only different if you want to make it different.
We already have basically a GM in our department that handles the day to day head coaching stuff.

Arnett handles the defense.
Let the OC handle the offense. Just like before.

Only difference is instead of Leach calling the plays the New OC calls the plays. If we promote someone on the offensive staff, then continuity is maintained. Just jobs switch around.
12-14-2022, 06:45 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Dawgface

The staff, current players and recruits could possibly start looking elsewhere not knowing who the permanent HC would be.

Yes, thought of that. And without being close enough to the situation, hard to know how much that played into it. But yes could have been a major element. Has to be tough to play that against the look of replacing The Pirate so quickly.
12-14-2022, 06:47 PM
sandjunky

Don?t drink on weekdays. I didn?t bring Mullen into the discussion

Mullen resurrected a dead program

Moorehead was a disaster and quickly disposed of

Leach was a hr hire - we got a ?dude? in a league full of dudes

We did succumb by making an emotional hire - how is it not - Leach hasn?t been with us for what 48 hrs - Arnett may prove to be a dude - I do love the guys fire
12-14-2022, 06:57 PM
Catfish

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

Don?t drink on weekdays. I didn?t bring Mullen into the discussion

Mullen resurrected a dead program

Moorehead was a disaster and quickly disposed of

Leach was a hr hire - we got a ?dude? in a league full of dudes

We did succumb by making an emotional hire - how is it not - Leach hasn?t been with us for what 48 hrs - Arnett may prove to be a dude - I do love the guys fire

He's got a lot of fire. Just watch him on the sideline. Reminds me of Matt Campbell.
12-14-2022, 07:02 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

OR, Arnett was being pursued for other head coaching positions or bigger DC jobs. So making him head coach may have been to keep him and the class here. A bit of a gamble but I'm good with giving him the chance to show out.

Bought my seats and parking pass for the bowl today. Will be there to honor The Pirate and welcome our new coach to the helm of the ship!!

Looking forward to seeing all you folks there!!

Some thought Leach was going to retire after the bowl game anyway, so it could be he had recommended that Arnett be his successor.
12-14-2022, 07:24 PM
Cooterpoot

I love Arnett! I have no idea if he's a great HC, but having talked to him more than a couple times, Kids are going to love him! His personality and fire is impressive.
12-14-2022, 07:25 PM
99jc

i don't have a problem with this call. 1 also agree right now we have to bring in an OC who runs a version of the air raid.
12-14-2022, 07:26 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

Only different if you want to make it different.
We already have basically a GM in our department that handles the day to day head coaching stuff.

Arnett handles the defense.
Let the OC handle the offense. Just like before.

Only difference is instead of Leach calling the plays the New OC calls the plays. If we promote someone on the offensive staff, then continuity is maintained. Just jobs switch around.

It's a major difference. Arnett has never made a decision to go for it on fourth down or not. He has the final say in everything. It can be very distracting to do that and run a defense. Most coaches honestly can't do both.
12-14-2022, 07:27 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

I agree with this. He's a good dude.

Absolutely. The best.
12-14-2022, 07:29 PM
DownwardDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandjunky

Don?t drink on weekdays. I didn?t bring Mullen into the discussion

Mullen resurrected a dead program

Moorehead was a disaster and quickly disposed of

Leach was a hr hire - we got a ?dude? in a league full of dudes

We did succumb by making an emotional hire - how is it not - Leach hasn?t been with us for what 48 hrs - Arnett may prove to be a dude - I do love the guys fire

Hail State!
12-14-2022, 07:35 PM
Todd4State

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandjunky

Don?t drink on weekdays. I didn?t bring Mullen into the discussion

Mullen resurrected a dead program

Moorehead was a disaster and quickly disposed of

Leach was a hr hire - we got a ?dude? in a league full of dudes

We did succumb by making an emotional hire - how is it not - Leach hasn?t been with us for what 48 hrs - Arnett may prove to be a dude - I do love the guys fire

No one is going to want to hear this:

We just made a typical MSU move. We did the nice thing. We chose to protect an unhired AD which gives me a ton of confidence in that search. We made a move to protect recruiting with a class that is maybe 30th right now?

It may work out but we're going to have at best an inexperienced head coach who will have growing pains. Which is NOT what we need. Remember Dan vs LSU 2009? LOL.

And we only have one open spot and that almost HAS TO go to an experienced OC. We can't bring in a DC because we don't have room. So it's going to be someone on staff in that role who is also inexperienced. And if we bring in another outside DC then we only have four offensive coaches on the whole staff- and one would have to be calling plays. Which again would be someone who has never called plays before.

I hope we go like 9-3 or better this year because I have a feeling that there is a good chance we're going to be looking again in about three years. Hopefully under much better circumstances.
12-14-2022, 07:36 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I love Arnett! I have no idea if he's a great HC, but having talked to him more than a couple times, Kids are going to love him! His personality and fire is impressive.

Yep.
12-14-2022, 07:39 PM
BrunswickDawg

Damn it! I go into a meeting my phone goes nuts. Put it on silent without looking and when I get out i have 87 texts and 5 voicemails. I like it. LFG!
12-14-2022, 07:55 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

No one is going to want to hear this:

We just made a typical MSU move. We did the nice thing. We chose to protect an unhired AD which gives me a ton of confidence in that search. We made a move to protect recruiting with a class that is maybe 30th right now?

It may work out but we're going to have at best an inexperienced head coach who will have growing pains. Which is NOT what we need. Remember Dan vs LSU 2009? LOL.

And we only have one open spot and that almost HAS TO go to an experienced OC. We can't bring in a DC because we don't have room. So it's going to be someone on staff in that role who is also inexperienced. And if we bring in another outside DC then we only have four offensive coaches on the whole staff- and one would have to be calling plays. Which again would be someone who has never called plays before.

I hope we go like 9-3 or better this year because I have a feeling that there is a good chance we're going to be looking again in about three years. Hopefully under much better circumstances.

I wouldn?t say it?s ?typical MSU hire?. This is way different than any hire in Msu history. I?m not surprised in your thoughts, but time will tell.
Any Coach is an iffy hire now days. I bet Arnett?s buyout is less than any HC we would have hired.
12-14-2022, 07:58 PM
DJ55

only time will tell if this is good hire or not. But we must keep the AIR RAID!!
12-14-2022, 08:02 PM
hogman

i am new here sorry for the loss of your coach i wish u guys luck esp aga ole miss
12-14-2022, 08:11 PM
hogman

u had to make this move u guys have a good off in place
12-14-2022, 08:14 PM
DownwardDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd4State

No one is going to want to hear this:

We just made a typical MSU move. We did the nice thing. We chose to protect an unhired AD which gives me a ton of confidence in that search. We made a move to protect recruiting with a class that is maybe 30th right now?

It may work out but we're going to have at best an inexperienced head coach who will have growing pains. Which is NOT what we need. Remember Dan vs LSU 2009? LOL.

And we only have one open spot and that almost HAS TO go to an experienced OC. We can't bring in a DC because we don't have room. So it's going to be someone on staff in that role who is also inexperienced. And if we bring in another outside DC then we only have four offensive coaches on the whole staff- and one would have to be calling plays. Which again would be someone who has never called plays before.

I hope we go like 9-3 or better this year because I have a feeling that there is a good chance we're going to be looking again in about three years. Hopefully under much better circumstances.

Why don't we have room? Leach was HC and OC. Most teams have HC, OC, and DC. Arnette is HC. We need a OC and a DC.
12-14-2022, 08:15 PM
MrBigStuff

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We just made a typical MSU move. We did the nice thing. We chose to protect an unhired AD which gives me a ton of confidence in that search. We made a move to protect recruiting with a class that is maybe 30th right now?

My sentiment exactly. Learning the ins and outs of being the HEAD COACH in the SEC West is hard enough for the "elites with coaching pedigree". The bowl game takes on a completely different level of importance. It's unfair and sucks because to the timing and circumstances, but the new regime needs to show a "taste" of what's planned for the future. Those extra bowl practices are worth everything now. Let the tbd OC (if promoted from within) have the freedom to preview his plan for the O even if it has some different components from pure Air Raid. Use this game to set the tone. Show good organization on the sidelines. Winning the game would be special, but give me a lot of reasons to be optimistic going into next season.

If Arnett decides to hire an OC from outside the current coaching staff, I would think it unlikely this outside OC could come on soon enough to coach the bowl practices and bowl game (assuming the OC's team is not playing in a bowl game or playoff).
12-14-2022, 08:17 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Why don't we have room? Leach was HC and OC. Most teams have HC, OC, and DC. Arnette is HC. We need a OC and a DC.

We only have 1 spot right now and that has to go to offense. OC/QB coach is the natural opening we need to fill. We can't hire anyone else for an on the field position as it stands right now.
12-14-2022, 08:20 PM
StarkVegasSteve

Mullenz, Moorehead, Leech, Arnette......good to see some of our fans are continuing the tradition of spelling our coaches name incorrectly.

For future reference it is ZACH ARNETT. There's not a K and there's no E

Edit: Whoever made it where you can't spell Dan's name with an S at the end is an absolute genius. Kudos to you
12-14-2022, 08:20 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

We only have 1 spot right now and that has to go to offense. OC/QB coach is the natural opening we need to fill. We can't hire anyone else for an on the field position as it stands right now.

I want be surprised if we lose one or two assistants.

Last time we had assistant promoted to HC was Bob Tyler.
12-14-2022, 08:22 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by basedog

I want be surprised if we lose one or two assistants.

Last time we had assistant promoted to HC was Bob Tyler.

I wouldn't be either but right now we can only replace 1 coach. After the bowl game we will see what shakes out.
12-14-2022, 08:26 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by basedog

I want be surprised if we lose one or two assistants.

Last time we had assistant promoted to HC was Bob Tyler.

Bob Tyler was ahead of the game. He had our NIL rolling in the 70s
12-14-2022, 08:39 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Bob Tyler was ahead of the game. He had our NIL rolling in the 70s

Yes he did. LOL.
12-14-2022, 08:42 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by basedog

I wouldn?t say it?s ?typical MSU hire?. This is way different than any hire in Msu history. I?m not surprised in your thoughts, but time will tell.
Any Coach is an iffy hire now days. I bet Arnett?s buyout is less than any HC we would have hired.

It just sucks for us. We have a team lined up to have a good season and now we have to go in it with an inexperienced staff again. And it took us awhile to get here.

Of course, Moorhead's biggest downfall was his lack of discipline. That won't be an issue under Arnett.
12-14-2022, 08:43 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I wouldn't be either but right now we can only replace 1 coach. After the bowl game we will see what shakes out.

And if a coach leaves it's probably not likely to be on the defensive side- which means we aren't going to bring in a new DC.
12-14-2022, 08:43 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Bob Tyler was ahead of the game. He had our NIL rolling in the 70s

Not as well as Freeze though.
12-14-2022, 08:45 PM
chef dixon

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Mullenz, Moorehead, Leech, Arnette......good to see some of our fans are continuing the tradition of spelling our coaches name incorrectly.

For future reference it is ZACH ARNETT. There's not a K and there's no E

Edit: Whoever made it where you can't spell Dan's name with an S at the end is an absolute genius. Kudos to you

Would love to see "Arnette" censored
12-14-2022, 08:46 PM
William Tecumsah Sherman

If Cooterpoot is optimistic, I?m in!

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